Dirtbag Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 And at the time there were a bunch of people on here saying how "You ALWAYS play to win." dude, you can't change the culture and get momentum for the next year UNLESS you rack up a couple garbage losses when the playoffs are out of reach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Fong Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 dude, you can't change the culture and get momentum for the next year UNLESS you rack up a couple garbage losses when the playoffs are out of reach. HAHA, you're still defending it. I think you people put too much stock in this idea of what you think builds a winning culture. You know what builds winning culture? Better players, coaches, and organization. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 dude, you can't change the culture and get momentum for the next year UNLESS you rack up a couple garbage losses when the playoffs are out of reach. There is no momentum year to year. I think yesterday is CLEAR evidence of that. If you're eliminated, you should be playing backups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtbag Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 HAHA, you're still defending it. I think you people put too much stock in this idea of what you think builds a winning culture. You know what builds winning culture? Better players, coaches, and organization. disagree. the results speak for themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Fong Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 disagree. the results speak for themselves. Yeah remember those great December wins? Remember which team Cam Newton is playing for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtbag Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 Yeah remember those great December wins? Remember which team Cam Newton is playing for? no, but in fairness, after that denver game, neither does he. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffalothruMyVeins Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 If you were changing the whole roster between seasons, than yes, I could see a case for this. However, it was Chan's first season as HC which ended in us getting the record to aquire Dareus at #3. If we have 53 guys on the roster playing to lose, and the ones who do the best job of that (WR who drops a ton of catches in the games after elimination, or QB with the most ints), than THEY THEMSELVES are the ones most likely to lose their jobs by the new players coming in. OK, so take it out of the players' hands, than? Chan, now it's your job to start the guy 3rd on the depth chart. In what world does Chan NOT lose the team, because he either has this doctrine dictated to him by management and the players see he has no power to overcome it, or Chan institutes it himself, and in doing so burns every starting player who is now exposed to losing their starting job to some kid draft pick next year who isn't even on the team yet, or even worse, burns every backup player who are off the team entirely when the current starter becomes the backup at that position, thus taking their position. The only thing that makes sense if you are willing to acknowledge that you are dealing with humans and the fact that this is their livelihood and ability to make a living for their families, is to play to win EVERY game, and when free agency and the draft come along next spring, replace those who were the worst players on the roster last year. Would you do your job far below what your skill level and work ethic dictates you can do for a month or two, with a good chance you lose your job in 6 months, and every other employer has clear evidence of you giving terrible effort at your previous employer and can no longer get work in a highly lucrative field? Feed your family on knowing that you're unemployed, but your previous employer has a highly skilled new employee in your previous position that wouldn't have been there if you hadn't done such a bad job... INTENTIONALLY? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 Would you do your job far below what your skill level and work ethic dictates you can do for a month or two, with a good chance you lose your job in 6 months, and every other employer has clear evidence of you giving terrible effort at your previous employer and can no longer get work in a highly lucrative field? Feed your family on knowing that you're unemployed, but your previous employer has a highly skilled new employee in your previous position that wouldn't have been there if you hadn't done such a bad job... INTENTIONALLY? Seemed to work in the NHL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webster Guy Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 Buddy was enamoured with him. Denver was set on Von Miller from all reports. Newton was this close to being a Bill. Luck wanted another year of not getting laid in school. Bastard. LMAO Yeah we were close to the top in one of the best drafts of all time. I thought Cam was another Vince Young or (gasp) Jamarcus Russel and was praying we wouldn't take him. There are 5 guys in that draft that singlehandedly have lifted their teams into playoff contention (Cam, Von, A.J, Julio and Watt) Then there 2 more that are perennial studs in Dareus and Peterson. He wasn't a bad pick by any means, just not one of those extra special 5 who are at the very top of their respective positions in the league today. So rare for a draft with that many All Pro's. Thank Stevie Johnson for dropping the wide open TD against Pitt, otherwise we'd have been down the board 3 or 4 spots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 Thank Stevie Johnson for dropping the wide open TD against Pitt, otherwise we'd have been down the board 3 or 4 spots. No, thank GOD! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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