patfitz Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 It was clear from the start that Whaley didn't trust Marrone, he forced Kyle Orton on him (recall the infamous fight on the sidelines in preseason) , Marrone didn't want to have a distraction for EJ, yet that is what happened and the rest is history. Brandon stood back and attempted to play peacemaker. All that said, they all deserve to go. A house divided cannot stand and the Bills are living proof. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 Perhaps you should start about 17 more threads on this same topic...I don't think the previous 4 you've got going are enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 It was clear from the start that Whaley didn't trust Marrone, he forced Kyle Orton on him (recall the infamous fight on the sidelines in preseason) , Marrone didn't want to have a distraction for EJ, yet that is what happened and the rest is history. Brandon stood back and attempted to play peacemaker. All that said, they all deserve to go. A house divided cannot stand and the Bills are living proof. Why do you presume to know what the so-called heated discussion was about? Who outside of the organization really knows if Whaley insisted on acquiring Orton or Marrone demanded a better backup option to the erratic young qb? What is lost here is that intense personnel disagreements among the staff are normal and not unusual. Why is it so surprising that a GM and a HC would have different opinions on the qb issue, assuming that was the contentious issue? I'm inclined to believe that Whaley is more committed to EJ than Marrone is because Whaley was instrumental in his selection while Marrone is more committed to getting immediate wins. What is a fact of the NFL environment is that as losses mount and expectations are not met tensions will rise throughout the organization. In my view changing staff will not change the outcome so much as acquiring a competent qb that can play at a higher level than is currently being played. In my opinion if the qb play would have been above average the last two games could have been wins. Then the perception of the team and the dynamic of the season would have dramatically changed for the better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Gun Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 (edited) It was clear from the start that Whaley didn't trust Marrone, he forced Kyle Orton on him (recall the infamous fight on the sidelines in preseason) , Marrone didn't want to have a distraction for EJ, yet that is what happened and the rest is history. Brandon stood back and attempted to play peacemaker. All that said, they all deserve to go. A house divided cannot stand and the Bills are living proof. Yeah another thread saying blow it all up and start over, again! Done that how many times in the past 15 years and where has that gotten them? Everyone wants to give EJ the benefit of the doubt and give him time to develop, why can't the same be said for Marrone? Why can't Marrone be afforded time to work out his kinks and become better? He has to learn on the job as he can't go to the bench and watch and learn from someone else. Regardless of what you all think I think Marrone and Whaley have made this a better more competitive football team than they have been in a long long time. IMO the ship has a captain and is headed in the right direction but is not going to get there overnight. Edited November 16, 2014 by old school Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maury Ballstein Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 IMO the ship has a captain and is headed in the right direction but is not going to get there overnight. Captain no balls and his ship are docked on puntpuntpunt island. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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