Corp000085 Posted September 3, 2004 Share Posted September 3, 2004 This school holdoff thing is crazy right now. I'm watching cnn and there are naked kids running around and people getting shot. Something interesting to wake up to, to say the least. The good news i guess is that there aren't any reports of dead kids yet. just dead terrorists and a couple reporters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt in KC Posted September 3, 2004 Share Posted September 3, 2004 I just read the articles at CNN.com. Unfortunately, it sounds like many kids have been killed so far.... Death and horror at siege school "Those children who remained in the school, in general, were not hurt. The ones who suffered were the children in the group which ran from the school and on whom the fighters opened fire." -- Unidentified security official quoted by Tass. "They took some of the injured out of the gym and finished them off right there in the corridor." -- Freed hostage Zalina Dzandarova to Kommersant daily Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Britbillsfan Posted September 3, 2004 Share Posted September 3, 2004 I just read the articles at CNN.com. Unfortunately, it sounds like many kids have been killed so far....Death and horror at siege school 16987[/snapback] The Russians have stormed the school, reports of 250 wounded, including 180 kids . Terrorists shot indiscriminately at the crowds outside when a large group made a break for it (13 got out, apparently, now holed up in a nearby house), reported 'only' 10 dead. :I starred in Brokeback Mountain: terrorist scumbags Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted September 3, 2004 Share Posted September 3, 2004 The Russians have stormed the school, reports of 250 wounded, including 180 kids . Terrorists shot indiscriminately at the crowds outside when a large group made a break for it (13 got out, apparently, now holed up in a nearby house), reported 'only' 10 dead. :I starred in Brokeback Mountain: terrorist scumbags 17035[/snapback] Maybe Russia should take a more sensitive approach. :I starred in Brokeback Mountain: terrorists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CircleTheWagons Posted September 3, 2004 Share Posted September 3, 2004 Maybe Russia should take a more sensitive approach. :I starred in Brokeback Mountain: terrorists. 17038[/snapback] I don't know what the f'ing options are against people who take children as hostages. My guess is that most hostage negotiation strategies ASSUME that the hostage takers want to make it out alive rather than die for the glory of their God. If there is a better approach than storming the school, I haven't heard it. I'm hoping that a couple of these idiots get captured and handed over to the parents - any other death is too easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Britbillsfan Posted September 3, 2004 Share Posted September 3, 2004 I don't know what the f'ing options are against people who take children as hostages. My guess is that most hostage negotiation strategies ASSUME that the hostage takers want to make it out alive rather than die for the glory of their God. If there is a better approach than storming the school, I haven't heard it. I'm hoping that a couple of these idiots get captured and handed over to the parents - any other death is too easy. 17066[/snapback] It appears the Russians were responding to something that happened in the school (possibly one of the terrorists blew herself up). Casualties currently reported at 310, 7 dead, 5 dead terrorists. No reports of dead kids yet. No way would they storm the school when they did (about 10:00 local time) unless something set it off (or the local commander on the ground was incompetant, but does not SEEM to be the case). Number of hostages looks to be way more than the 350ish originally stated by the authorities. More like 1000+. Absolute chaos on the ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VABills Posted September 3, 2004 Share Posted September 3, 2004 It appears the Russians were responding to something that happened in the school (possibly one of the terrorists blew herself up). Casualties currently reported at 310, 7 dead, 5 dead terrorists. No reports of dead kids yet. No way would they storm the school when they did (about 10:00 local time) unless something set it off (or the local commander on the ground was incompetant, but does not SEEM to be the case). Number of hostages looks to be way more than the 350ish originally stated by the authorities. More like 1000+. Absolute chaos on the ground. 17076[/snapback] I just heard at least 15 children dead. The terrorist blew the roof on the gym where the children were and it caved in on them. Then the children started jumping out windows with terrorists blowing stevestojan up and shooting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Britbillsfan Posted September 3, 2004 Share Posted September 3, 2004 I just heard at least 15 children dead. The terrorist blew the roof on the gym where the children were and it caved in on them. Then the children started jumping out windows with terrorists blowing stevestojan up and shooting. 17124[/snapback] Reports are now coming out of 'dozens' of bodies in the gym. 400+ hospitalized. Just horrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted September 3, 2004 Share Posted September 3, 2004 I just heard at least 15 children dead. The terrorist blew the roof on the gym where the children were and it caved in on them. Then the children started jumping out windows with terrorists blowing stevestojan up and shooting. 17124[/snapback] Last I heard, just a few minutes ago, the body count was well over a hundred. Talk about "prodding the bear". Russians ain't all warm and friendly and sensitive like we are. Let's see Groznyy exists after next week... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted September 3, 2004 Share Posted September 3, 2004 Last I heard, just a few minutes ago, the body count was well over a hundred. Talk about "prodding the bear". Russians ain't all warm and friendly and sensitive like we are. Let's see Groznyy exists after next week... 17132[/snapback] Especially where their children are concerned. Russians dote on their children more than any country I've been to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Syracuse Posted September 3, 2004 Share Posted September 3, 2004 WTF is THIS? "Local people who were armed also then opened fire on the bandits. This did not allow the special forces to do their work effectively." -- Regional FSB security service chief Valery Andreyev". Don't the Russians have the equivalent of SWAT teams or hostage rescue specialists? Jesus if not why not ask for some help?? Let's just pray that the wackos don't decide that school hostage situations would be a good tactic here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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