sharper802 Posted August 25, 2010 Share Posted August 25, 2010 This quote surpised me..... "I still feel like I have a long way to go" Well, then WHY the hold out before the 2009 season?? One has nothing to do with the other. Do you really need this explained to you??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Hansen Forever Posted August 25, 2010 Share Posted August 25, 2010 Watching Maybin play in the Indy game I saw him pound his chest making routine tackles and bumping into opponents as if to mess with them. To me that's being a punk; acting like your something special when you're really nothing. That disturbs me because I can see Maybin getting a dumb penalty at a crucial time. Gailey needs to straighten him out and get him to grow up some. PTR Chan needs to give him a Missouri mule treatment before he blows up on some opposing player, or ref. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalonian-at-Heart Posted August 25, 2010 Share Posted August 25, 2010 Aside from the stripper parties and millions of dollars, I kind of feel bad for Maybin. I think he is a player that wants to be really good but it's not translating for him. I've already given up on hopes of him being a real playmaker. At this point i'd be really pleased if he became a decent contributor. Your avatar looks like he could be Prince Poppycock's uncle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hplarrm Posted August 25, 2010 Share Posted August 25, 2010 Maybinot must have great vision because he can see things that no one else can see. Actually, if one reads the article from Chris Brown (or maybe I see something quoted that no one else can see) is that the Bills coaches are the ones who see progress in his play. So clearly either someone else sees something or the coaches are simply blowing smoke at Maybin to make him feel good (doubtful actually as the NFL is a cruel mistress and while coaches often play good cop/bad cop with players to get performance out of them, they have given Maybin a ton of PT and coaches likely would not risk their jobs simply playing a non-productive player when their jobs depend on the success of the unit they coach. Folks have to face the fact that if Maybin is as bad as they make him how to be this almost necessarily has to mean that the coaches see some tremendous upside that will come from playing him. If this is not true then what is your explanation for why he is getting such a large amount of playing time. My sense is that the Bills position coaches and DC see some upside in getting Maybin game and play experience he did not have in his brief football career and since he was a DE rather than an OLB. In fact, its fine with me if he is not focusing in pre-season in racking up a lot of sacks as what I think he needs practice in is doing the pass coverage and run stopping that an OLB needs to do. He already has shown in college that he can use his speed to sack the passer, if he were to do this in pre-season it quite frankly would be a waste and actually give film for study to the enemy. I much prefer to see him practicing how to make a pro quality counter move, read Os, and pick-up receivers, If he cannot do this satisfactorily then the Bills need to get active on the waiver wire pronto and pick up OLBs rather than TEs. Unless the braintrust sees some serious upside and usefulness to Maybin given the injuries to Torbor and Kelsay the OLB situation is a bigger crisis than the one at TE. My sense is the proof is in the pudding and one more likely might believe the actions of the braintrust whose jobs and money are on the line rather than armchair QBs like you and me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorkington Posted August 25, 2010 Share Posted August 25, 2010 If his numbers continue as they have in the first 2 preseason games, he'll amass 64 tackles and 8 sacks this season. I'd take that for a luxury project player with high potential that required a lot of development, and continue to think how dumb the front office was for selecting him, not Maybin personally. At the same time, one's own perceived improvement is important to development even if takes time for others to notice. I hope he proves the nay-sayers wrong. +1 to this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K Gun Special Posted August 25, 2010 Share Posted August 25, 2010 +1 to this. Those stats arent against starters. Big difference when making projections. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted August 25, 2010 Share Posted August 25, 2010 I agree. He's 22 and has played one season. He should just quit now and save himself the trouble. That's the attitude. But hopefully, we can get some more Maybin bashing. It always gets fresher. So Jauron is a zombie because he shows no emotion. Edwards sucks because he doesn't scream at players like Marino and plays it safe. Now Maybin sucks because he plays with emotion? Watch the gametape. Maybin is always the first to congratulate his teammates. He has fire and I like that. Of all the thing to criticize Maybin, this seems silly. No, but he doesn't seem to have caught on that he is playing against other team's backups and future cuts--and that therefore, his woofing on these guys after routine plays looks silly. I don't see other backup players acting routinely like this in the preseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills in va Posted August 25, 2010 Share Posted August 25, 2010 Watching Maybin play in the Indy game I saw him pound his chest making routine tackles and bumping into opponents as if to mess with them. To me that's being a punk; acting like your something special when you're really nothing. That disturbs me because I can see Maybin getting a dumb penalty at a crucial time. Gailey needs to straighten him out and get him to grow up some. PTR Nailed it! He's a arrogant a-hole. He showboats, dances around after he jumps on a pile. He is incredibly egotistical, w/o game to back it up. I've seen him more than once down here this summer at the gym. Everybody hates him, not for being a Bill, but for being a dick. He's the only one tooting his horn and I hope we cut him. When he plays against first teamers he gets owned. Make him the quickest fullback in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbonestake Posted August 25, 2010 Share Posted August 25, 2010 (edited) You really want him on IR? He later went on to say that he believes strippers like him for his personality and he believes the sky is green. Edited August 25, 2010 by tbonestake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thoner7 Posted August 25, 2010 Share Posted August 25, 2010 Maybin sees his game improving Chris Brown Posted August 24, 2010 – 12:44 pm Tags: Aaron Maybin Bills OLB Aaron Maybin believes he has made strides with his game in the team’s training camp. “Without question,” he said. ”Obviously, like I’ve been saying this whole time, I still feel like I have a long way to go. There’s still a lot I feel I have to improve on and all that kind of stuff. But as far as where I started at and where I’m at now, I feel great. I really think I’ve shown a lot of improvement. “My coaches have said that they’ve been pleased with the improvement that I’ve shown and how much I’ve been able to learn. The key now is to keep building once we get back up to Buffalo.” Maybin is still working on his counter moves to his speed rush and is still trying to shore up his coverage skills and run stopping skills to become more of an every down player. http://blogs.buffalobills.com/2010/08/24/maybin-sees-his-game-improving/ Leave it to the Bills to draft a pass rushing specialist, who needs to learn to rush the passer, in the top 10(11)! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hplarrm Posted August 25, 2010 Share Posted August 25, 2010 Nailed it! He's a arrogant a-hole. He showboats, dances around after he jumps on a pile. He is incredibly egotistical, w/o game to back it up. I've seen him more than once down here this summer at the gym. Everybody hates him, not for being a Bill, but for being a dick. He's the only one tooting his horn and I hope we cut him. When he plays against first teamers he gets owned. Make him the quickest fullback in the NFL. I only would want to see him cut if it helps the team. Even with the disappointing result that he is a 1 or 2 down player who is a pass rush specialist it actually not only does not help the team to cut him now but actually hurts us. 1. We simply lack depth at OLB with the season ending injury to Batten and the being slowed by injuries of Kelsay and Torbor. If only for providing depth, specialist pass rush and whatever DeHaven gets our his speed on ST the waiver wire likely gives you Maybin quality performance with less speed. 2. It is not good football simply to cut a player based on one disappointing season and a disappointing pre-season (though disappointment says as much about the false expectations a viewer came in with. There are simply clear examples of players like Eric Moulds who was unproductive statistically for two entire seasons, and then got "it" (whatever it is) and then embarked on a Pro-Bowl level career. 3. He is young drafted at 21 last year (many players red-shirted for a year are at least 22 or older and to boot he took up football a little later than many and simply has fewer reps meaning he should develop merely through experience and he also has simply taken fewer hits from the game so even a one year difference from the norm is a bigger difference than normal. 4. If cut, then all bonus paid to him immediately accelerates and gets applied to the next capped year. Cutting him saves virtually no money and potentially (to some extent dependent upon CBA renegotiations)harms the team in terms of cap management. 5. He is a Buffalo Bill and I root for all Buffalo Bills to be the best they can be and help the team. It really is beyond me why anyone would get pleasure from the failure of others (particularly when this "failure" produces a resultwhere he still gets millions from us in exchange for giving us no return whatsoever (even if the return is merely holding a roster spot for us that some other non-performing cut player from the waiver wire would fill, ST play and the time to time sack) and actually him getting cut rewards him with another chance to collect a signing bonus and/or a significant incentive laden contract with his new team. If one is pissed at him then cutting him will be such a likely financial boon to him (and also result in the opponent who signed him saying thank you very much (as Miami likely signs him to get him to give them the same intelligence Lawyer Milloy gave us a few years back when they cut him just prior to the season) and they get to attempt to develop this raw talent without the burden of the expectations of the fanbase or the cash outlay of the owner. Rooting for cutting him now (and likely before three full seasons for the coaches to earn their pay by developing him to the best he can be and also spreading the bonus paid to him over 4 seasons rather than two) is simply bad for the team I love. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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