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1 hour ago, Alphadawg7 said:
At this point, like most people, I hope Poyer can play Sunday to bring some veteran leadership to the secondary with our young bucks. Hyde is a very good player and will always be missed, but I have confidence in the guys behind him to step in and play too.
But on a more serious note...not gonna lie, this Hyde situation is giving me Aaron Williams vibes. It's usually pretty serious news when players start searching for 2nd opinions. AW had to retire not because he couldn't play at a high level, his neck injury poised higher risk for severe risks in the event of another neck injury that included paralysis or even death. So I am praying that is not the case for Hyde.
I just really really hope for Hyde's sake that whatever it is, that it's both not career threatening or even season ending. It would be a shame if he wasn't on the field when we won the SB, he has given so much to this team since being here. Dude deserves that moment, so I want him out there more because he deserves it than I do because of need.
As far as the team impact on him being out this week and the possibility it could be longer or even the season...This is where more kudos goes to Beane. He has built this team with the kind of depth we need to withstand inevitable injuries throughout the season, and that starts with his history of strong drafts. So I have confidence on the next man up guys on this roster at most positions to come in and get the job done.
This is exactly what I'm feeling as well. Same as Eric Wood. Seemingly innocuous injury that with certain eyes looking on it find a high risk for a future life changing injury. Hyde has been a Day 1 guy so it would be really disappointing for him to not be a part of the team's journey this year.
On the Xs and Os side, part of the scheme is how Poyer and Hyde can be very interchangeable but I do think Poyer would shift a bit more to that FS role with Johnson being more of a SS type player.
Long term, I was kind of under the impression that we were due for a bit of a changing of the guard at S overall. Hyde restructured his deal recently and it includes void years starting in 2024 so I was under the impression they would eventually be forced to move on after next season. Obviously, Poyer is a FA coming up but a Hyde retirement could force the Bills hand a bit.
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7 minutes ago, Dr.Mantis_Toboggan said:
Why was he even on the field in the 4th qtr?
It was the middle of the 3rd Q
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Just now, Warcodered said:
So you look into that tweet and he gets that info from some Bills YouTube guy having a guy on to speculate about it, so he's not hearing anything at all really.
It's all speculation but it's somewhat informed by Hyde's player history and what has happened with other players
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*I'M NOT A DOCTOR*
IMO the only reason you'd get a 2nd opinion is if:
a. Rehab vs. Surgery
b. Career-threatening injury.
We know that Hyde went to the hospital. Very conceivable that they did precautionary/exploratory scans/MRIs and something pre-existing injury popped up and they are advising Hyde that he can't play anymore. Much like the Eric Wood situation.
Hopefully it is not that but serious neck issues can be nebulous and can go undetected. He could have a minor injury but a serious risk could have been detected.
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1 hour ago, Virgil said:
I love Knox and glad he’s staying. Money seems a bit high, but it’s not my money.
I think it’s interesting that he signed before Poyer, Edmunds, and Oliver, for whatever that’s worth
When you factor in the current contract that he's on for this year, this puts Dawson Knox's overall contract at 5 yrs, $56ish million, which is just over $11 mil per year average. This slots him under Jonnu Smith and Hunter Henry.
This is an extension so I would be surprised if they didn't add some money to this season and the bonus is spread out over the 5 years starting with this season.
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14 hours ago, Rochesterfan said:
Using Spotrac which is pretty good - the cutdown to 53 (keeping Tre on the roster and cutting some higher profile guys like Howard) I got 10.7 million after the restructure. Then taking 4.5 for practice squad drops you to about 6 million. That is right about where they like to be.
That level drops even more if they put White on PUP and keep another player - as I suspect. It also drops further if they put Stevenson on IR to “protect” him. In that case it knocks another 1.4 million down to 4 and 1/2 million left for mid season signings.
They may have a Knox extension in thought, but if that was the plan I would expect a different - larger restructure.
I forgot about PS guys counting against the cap, but I think 4.5 million is a little high. Also, there is no requirement to have vets on the practice squad so the Bills can get to as low as 2.6 million against from the PS.
I have the Knox extension around 4yr - 50 million. It makes very little sense to not extend him before the offseason if they are close on value because moving money into this current season by way of the prorated signing bonus and guaranteed salary is one of the primary benefits to Bills in terms of re-signing him.
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With likely cuts to get to 53, we'll be roughly 8.5 to 10 million under the cap for this season. That's a huge cushion to take on a pretty good year 1 cap hit for an extension.
My money though would be on a Knox extension. They can give him more money up front and raise his cap hit this year which can make his deal alot more team favorable in the long run
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8 hours ago, Nelius said:
I don't see us moving up much for CB with this team's ability to develop defensive backs. They could take 3 starting in Round 4 and make something out of it.
Moving up for offense, so WR since it's the 1st, or just a couple of spots for CB makes the most sense. I'm buying into the Jameson Williams chatter, I really think they go WR in the 1st.
Does the Will Fuller comparison come with the PEDs? I'll take a healthy, hulked up Will Fuller streaking down the sideline. You can't get that nowadays with the real Will Fuller of course. Shenault is broken or too slow for the NFL, there's a reason beyond Jacksonville's ineptitude that there's no real interest from anybody.
Sure, they could try to develop a mid to late round pick. But if you could send a veteran player about to be let go in a year(Poyer or Edmunds) and two 1sts (both likely to be mid to late 20s) for a cost controlled, under-paid top flight CB for 5 years, would you do that? I think I might.
We are a team now that is going to be at the salary cap every year. So I could see the rationale in using picks to try get cheaper, more sure fire talent.
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He also just retweeted a recent Joe Haden tweet. I know the two have worked out together in the off-season.
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12 - right now i think this might be the base offense. Davis, Diggs, Knox, Howard. Maybe even with 11 with McKenzie coming in for Howard.
22 - in Kromer's 4 years in LA they did not have a FB. Gilliam came out of college as a TE so I think he'll still have a role but i could also see us drafting a more traditional TE in the 3rd/4th round and not having any formations with a true FB
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35 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said:
They aren't cutting Matakevitch either. He's maybe our best Special Teamer. And in losing Taiwan Jones on that side and A.J. Klein on the LB side, we're a little thin at both the roles he provides.
Cody Ford isn't going to be released with Kromer coming in. They made a large investment in him and they'll hope that Kromer can bring more out of him. And especially not when we're thin at O-Line depth already and might be losing Ryan Bates too.
I'm just saying these are the only real moves to be made to free up space(other than more restructures or extensions).
Ford and Bates combine right now for almost $5 million. I don't think that's the plan moving forward.
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Bills can still free up almost $4 million by cutting Matakevitch and Cody Ford.
Also Ryan Bates currently counts against the cap at 2.5 million but he's either going to get signed away or he's going to re-sign and i think that number goes down too.
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52 minutes ago, No_Matter_What said:
As far as I understand it any re-signing will not help with those void years.
I think any contract can be restructured. Hyde still has 1 "regular" year remaining after this one. They can simply extend his contract into the future tearing up those "void" years. It's only locked in if they intend to simply let the contract run out after the 2023 season.
I think.
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1 hour ago, No_Matter_What said:
Hmm per sportrac they spread it over 5 years, creating 3 void years with dead cap §1.1M each.
https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/buffalo-bills/micah-hyde-12440/
Not sure I like this.
But like I said I will judge once FA is over.
Well it is not all we are doing. We are also creating lot of dead cap for future years. I am not saying we shouldn't do it but it is important to note.
I would imagine that they have every intention of re-signing Hyde after this season which would essentially tear up those void years.
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Not athletic enough AND actually is expensive at a 2.3 mil cap hit. They can save 1.4 million by cutting him. I'm guessing he's either traded or a training camp cut.
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2 minutes ago, BuffaloRebound said:
Yes, but the whole $12.7m thing will make this impossible. He’s not gonna sign for less than $12.7m per year
So he's gauranteed 12.7 million for this year. That doesn't mean that he won't sign for less than that on a long term deal. Can easily structure something so that he gets more money up front or over the first 2 years AND it lowers his overall cap hit early on.
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played for Kromer for 2 years in LA when McVay first was hired. Perfect fit for an athletic blocking scheme. I'm guessing he can play either G position
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Just now, BuffaloBillsGospel said:
I'd say Mckenzie is our new slot WR, why did we re-sign him otherwise?
I don't think we signed McKenzie to that contract for him to be the locked in slot WR. If they can get Landry at a good price, that would be a great addition.
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17 minutes ago, ArtVandalay said:
Does that space account for the $6 MM or so needed to sign draft picks?
No. They will need about 5ish mil or less depending how the top 51 contracts play out. They can likely get that by cutting guys who are likely to lose jobs in camp, etc, depending on how the draft goes. Wouldn't worry about this.
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Getting more athletic on OL. I would think that they are going to go all in on a more zone-based blocking scheme, so maybe Ford is also going to go. He's cheap on a trade so they might actually be able to get a late round pick for him
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IMO McKenzie re-sign indicates that the Bills are likely going WR in RD2 or RD3, although RD1 is not out of the question. He is essentially on a 1 year deal and he's a proven commodity and has comfort with the offense. This allows them to either (a). draft a 2nd round WR and not force him into being a starter which also allows them to not pass a high end CB or DL if one falls to them at 25 OR (b). draft Jameson Williams at 25 and not havbe to worry about rushing him into the lineup too quickly.
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8 hours ago, junior said:
Are or were? As Sal points out here, there's speculation that Dorsey wants to run more 12 personnel. If that's the case, then paying for two solid TEs makes sense.
Kromer's last two years in LA they also ran a ton of 2TE sets.
Knox being a true TE allows them the possibility of using Engram as hybrid TE/WR. Draft a 2nd day WR and your weapons are in a good place moving forward for a few years.
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Akiem Hicks has the market value and can probably be signed for less gtd $$.
I think this is just Phillips pricing himself out of what the Bills want to spend for a 1T, 2 down DT.
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1 minute ago, Rubes said:
Is Cordarelle Patterson considered a big name FA?
I don't think he would be considered a big name FA.
All the Gronk talk started again around combine time. I think it's gotta be him.
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Micah Hyde seeking 2nd opinion on neck injury
in The Stadium Wall
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Spinal stenosis can absolutely develop over time in collision sports and not necessarily have obvious symptoms until discovered. It is absolutely likely that a doctor would recommend not playing contact sports if this was discovered. I'm not saying that this what is happening with Hyde but getting a 2nd opinion usually means that big decision needs to be made. Off the top of my head, I can think of several players that retired because of this condition. And due to Hyde's age and previous neck issues, they could be just saying that the next hit could paralyze you.
It's all speculation but it's not completely misinformed. By the way, the Pegula Jet (which I still follow sometimes when news pops up) flew someone to Morristown, NJ today and they are flying back tomorrow. Just so happens one of the more well known Orthopedic Spine Surgeons and Centers is located there.
Let's assume its not a career-ending situation because I actually think that in this type of injury situation there is probably less of a gray area in terms of what could be career ending. I would guess that the initial diagnosis was to have surgery, maybe the ACDF that we should all be experts on now after the Eichel situation, which would put him out for 9 months minimum. If Hyde is seeing an Orthopedic spine surgeon, then he is likely trying to see if there is a conservative path of rehab and/or non-surgical approaches that wouldn't put him out for the whole season.