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14 hours ago, Rochesterfan said:
Using Spotrac which is pretty good - the cutdown to 53 (keeping Tre on the roster and cutting some higher profile guys like Howard) I got 10.7 million after the restructure. Then taking 4.5 for practice squad drops you to about 6 million. That is right about where they like to be.
That level drops even more if they put White on PUP and keep another player - as I suspect. It also drops further if they put Stevenson on IR to “protect” him. In that case it knocks another 1.4 million down to 4 and 1/2 million left for mid season signings.
They may have a Knox extension in thought, but if that was the plan I would expect a different - larger restructure.
I forgot about PS guys counting against the cap, but I think 4.5 million is a little high. Also, there is no requirement to have vets on the practice squad so the Bills can get to as low as 2.6 million against from the PS.
I have the Knox extension around 4yr - 50 million. It makes very little sense to not extend him before the offseason if they are close on value because moving money into this current season by way of the prorated signing bonus and guaranteed salary is one of the primary benefits to Bills in terms of re-signing him.
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With likely cuts to get to 53, we'll be roughly 8.5 to 10 million under the cap for this season. That's a huge cushion to take on a pretty good year 1 cap hit for an extension.
My money though would be on a Knox extension. They can give him more money up front and raise his cap hit this year which can make his deal alot more team favorable in the long run
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8 hours ago, Nelius said:
I don't see us moving up much for CB with this team's ability to develop defensive backs. They could take 3 starting in Round 4 and make something out of it.
Moving up for offense, so WR since it's the 1st, or just a couple of spots for CB makes the most sense. I'm buying into the Jameson Williams chatter, I really think they go WR in the 1st.
Does the Will Fuller comparison come with the PEDs? I'll take a healthy, hulked up Will Fuller streaking down the sideline. You can't get that nowadays with the real Will Fuller of course. Shenault is broken or too slow for the NFL, there's a reason beyond Jacksonville's ineptitude that there's no real interest from anybody.
Sure, they could try to develop a mid to late round pick. But if you could send a veteran player about to be let go in a year(Poyer or Edmunds) and two 1sts (both likely to be mid to late 20s) for a cost controlled, under-paid top flight CB for 5 years, would you do that? I think I might.
We are a team now that is going to be at the salary cap every year. So I could see the rationale in using picks to try get cheaper, more sure fire talent.
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He also just retweeted a recent Joe Haden tweet. I know the two have worked out together in the off-season.
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12 - right now i think this might be the base offense. Davis, Diggs, Knox, Howard. Maybe even with 11 with McKenzie coming in for Howard.
22 - in Kromer's 4 years in LA they did not have a FB. Gilliam came out of college as a TE so I think he'll still have a role but i could also see us drafting a more traditional TE in the 3rd/4th round and not having any formations with a true FB
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35 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said:
They aren't cutting Matakevitch either. He's maybe our best Special Teamer. And in losing Taiwan Jones on that side and A.J. Klein on the LB side, we're a little thin at both the roles he provides.
Cody Ford isn't going to be released with Kromer coming in. They made a large investment in him and they'll hope that Kromer can bring more out of him. And especially not when we're thin at O-Line depth already and might be losing Ryan Bates too.
I'm just saying these are the only real moves to be made to free up space(other than more restructures or extensions).
Ford and Bates combine right now for almost $5 million. I don't think that's the plan moving forward.
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Bills can still free up almost $4 million by cutting Matakevitch and Cody Ford.
Also Ryan Bates currently counts against the cap at 2.5 million but he's either going to get signed away or he's going to re-sign and i think that number goes down too.
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52 minutes ago, No_Matter_What said:
As far as I understand it any re-signing will not help with those void years.
I think any contract can be restructured. Hyde still has 1 "regular" year remaining after this one. They can simply extend his contract into the future tearing up those "void" years. It's only locked in if they intend to simply let the contract run out after the 2023 season.
I think.
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1 hour ago, No_Matter_What said:
Hmm per sportrac they spread it over 5 years, creating 3 void years with dead cap §1.1M each.
https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/buffalo-bills/micah-hyde-12440/
Not sure I like this.
But like I said I will judge once FA is over.
Well it is not all we are doing. We are also creating lot of dead cap for future years. I am not saying we shouldn't do it but it is important to note.
I would imagine that they have every intention of re-signing Hyde after this season which would essentially tear up those void years.
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Not athletic enough AND actually is expensive at a 2.3 mil cap hit. They can save 1.4 million by cutting him. I'm guessing he's either traded or a training camp cut.
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2 minutes ago, BuffaloRebound said:
Yes, but the whole $12.7m thing will make this impossible. He’s not gonna sign for less than $12.7m per year
So he's gauranteed 12.7 million for this year. That doesn't mean that he won't sign for less than that on a long term deal. Can easily structure something so that he gets more money up front or over the first 2 years AND it lowers his overall cap hit early on.
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played for Kromer for 2 years in LA when McVay first was hired. Perfect fit for an athletic blocking scheme. I'm guessing he can play either G position
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Just now, BuffaloBillsGospel said:
I'd say Mckenzie is our new slot WR, why did we re-sign him otherwise?
I don't think we signed McKenzie to that contract for him to be the locked in slot WR. If they can get Landry at a good price, that would be a great addition.
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17 minutes ago, ArtVandalay said:
Does that space account for the $6 MM or so needed to sign draft picks?
No. They will need about 5ish mil or less depending how the top 51 contracts play out. They can likely get that by cutting guys who are likely to lose jobs in camp, etc, depending on how the draft goes. Wouldn't worry about this.
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Getting more athletic on OL. I would think that they are going to go all in on a more zone-based blocking scheme, so maybe Ford is also going to go. He's cheap on a trade so they might actually be able to get a late round pick for him
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IMO McKenzie re-sign indicates that the Bills are likely going WR in RD2 or RD3, although RD1 is not out of the question. He is essentially on a 1 year deal and he's a proven commodity and has comfort with the offense. This allows them to either (a). draft a 2nd round WR and not force him into being a starter which also allows them to not pass a high end CB or DL if one falls to them at 25 OR (b). draft Jameson Williams at 25 and not havbe to worry about rushing him into the lineup too quickly.
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8 hours ago, junior said:
Are or were? As Sal points out here, there's speculation that Dorsey wants to run more 12 personnel. If that's the case, then paying for two solid TEs makes sense.
Kromer's last two years in LA they also ran a ton of 2TE sets.
Knox being a true TE allows them the possibility of using Engram as hybrid TE/WR. Draft a 2nd day WR and your weapons are in a good place moving forward for a few years.
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Akiem Hicks has the market value and can probably be signed for less gtd $$.
I think this is just Phillips pricing himself out of what the Bills want to spend for a 1T, 2 down DT.
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1 minute ago, Rubes said:
Is Cordarelle Patterson considered a big name FA?
I don't think he would be considered a big name FA.
All the Gronk talk started again around combine time. I think it's gotta be him.
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23 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:
No disrespect, but I don't think you are thinking about this correctly in terms of free agency.
Kirk is going to be more in demand than Cooper, Robinson and Williams. These three are going to be more expensive despite being highly inconsistent as receivers most their careers even while playing mostly in productive offenses with good or very good QB's (especially Cooper and Williams). Less teams can afford what they will be looking for, and there is a legit argument if they are even worth what they are going to be seeking given how inconsistent they have been.
Who is hot in Free Agency isnt always about who is perceived to be the most talented or accomplished. Adams for example won't have as many suitors because he is too expensive, less people can afford him even though he is night and day better than anyone on this list and arguably the best in the NFL. Godwin is coming off a major injury too and while he likely is back in 2022 barring setbacks, there is no guarantee he comes back and just gets back to his old form early, might take time to get there. How many teams can afford what he will be seeking, and how many are willing to give it to him before he gets back on the field is a legit question with him.
Kirk will be a priority or top tier target for a lot of teams because he is perceived to be young and on the rise breaking out, meaning they can get a guy they believe is capable of putting up numbers like some of these other guys in a featured role while paying him considerably less money than several of those other guys will get.
So if you want to list these guys in tiers based on their resumes, sure, you can make a case for your list. But if you want to grade as a free agency tier, Kirk will likely have the biggest market for his services than anyone on that list making him a higher tier free agent.
I hear what you are saying, but I'm thinking in terms of tiers of market value. I understand that you are saying Kirk at around $12 mil/yr is going to attract more teams, maybe many more, than the top tier talent. And maybe that inflates his final number.
But if he's so in demand that he gets above market value, let's say aggressively $14/yr, wouldn't that drive those teams to the higher talent anyway? Why pay Kirk $14 mil/yr when you can pay Robinson, Cooper, or Williams $16-17mil/yr?
Couple that with the idea that teams could get a legitimate starting WR in the draft from picks 20-50 and i think you might see a hard ceiling for the guys in that $10-12 mil/yr tier.
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52 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:
I think then you will be surprised to see the market for Kirk. He certainly wont be a "3rd tier" FA WR, and will widely seen as one of the better FA WR's on the market this year.
Davante Adams
Chris Godwin
Amari Cooper
Allen Robinson
Mike Williams
OBJ
Kirk
Gallup
DJ Chark
He's either top of tier 3 or bottom of tier 2. Not to mention that he's got at least 4 guys in direct competition with him at his own price point.
$7 mil/yr is obviously way too low. But I think 4yr/40-45 mil with like 30%-40% gtd in the 1st 2 years is where I'd be willing to go. Then you essentially decide between Davis and Kirk after 2 years.
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On 2/24/2022 at 11:52 AM, Alphadawg7 said:
WR is a deep position in this draft, so I don’t expect any pricey WR free agent additions this year, especially with Davis seemingly ready to emerge and start.
This will also bring down values in the 2nd and 3rd tier of FA WRs, which is where Kirk is.
Deep WR draft won't affect the top WRs but you could see some value suppression as all these teams are going to be thinking the same thing about getting WRs in the draft round 1-4. Difference is that the Bills want to win now now and other teams who are still building could see the advantage of drafting a WR.
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2 hours ago, folz said:
Let me take a stab at showing why some think the article is disingenuous in a manner.
He starts off with what his obvious opinion and thrust of his slant for the article:
"Obviously, Sean McDermott owed more to the public."
This is obviously either bothering the writer himself, or he knows he can stoke his readership by bringing up something he knows they are upset about. But Sean McDermott doesn't owe the public an explanation. He is not a public servant. He works for the Pegulas and the NFL. Also, as a good leader, he is making sure that no one (player or coach) gets thrown under the bus. Do people really want him to point fingers? Or instead of saying, ultimately it was his responsibility/execution, did they want him to break down at the podium and say, "It's all my fault. I screwed up. Woe is me." A good leader doesn't do either of those things. A good leader handles their business internally, picks themselves up, and moves on. I just don't know what people want from him.
But, the real problem to me with the article is this:
"so many of the men who poured their blood, sweat and tears into the organization have been left completely in the dark...With those 13 seconds shrouded in mystery, players were forced to investigate themselves. Many, of course, declined to speak which is understandable considering their boss has refused to utter a word of substance on the matter. There’s little upside. But several did share their findings with Go Long on the condition of anonymity."
So he starts off telling us how "many" players feel...leading us to believe it is like a majority of the players. Then tells us "many" players declined to speak. So did many players feel what you said if many players declined to talk? And notice how he's amping up the animosity towards McDermott (and his feeling of the situation) with his emotionally-charged word choices (see bolded phrases above). This is what in the courtroom would be considered leading a witness (or in this case, a reader). So, after saying many players did not comment, he claims that "several did share their findings...on the condition of anonymity."
Let's break that down. How many are several? The definition of several is "More than two, but not many." So, rather than that original "MANY" players he inferred he knew how they felt, we are down to maybe a small group of players. And he says the player's "share their findings" from these "investigations" that they were "forced" to make on their own. Ok, what did this small group of players conclude? What are the actual quotes that will bring us to a better understanding of what happened or what is going on? Well, Dunne offers us four quotes total from either 2, 3, or 4 players. The way they are placed in the article, it could only be two players talking, or it could be up to 4 players (definitely not "many").
“You preach accountability,” one player said. “But you don’t practice it.”
Said one player: “Everybody knew that if we just beat Kansas City, we would’ve beat any team.”
And another: “We definitely would’ve won the Super Bowl.”
“You don’t get over,” one player said, “a game like that.”
The first quote is almost undoubtedly from McKenzie. The other three quotes have nothing to do with the 13 seconds or who is to be held accountable, etc. There is no investigative work here by the players or the writer. It is just what any player would say after a tough loss, or what you're expectation was. Nothing to do with McDermott or how he handled the situation then or since.
So, after starting off making us think that the majority of the team feels the way the writer is leading us, it all comes down to one anonymous quote, from one player. So, one player said the coach needs to practice accountability and from that we are to believe there is some kind of mutiny at One Bills Drive?
And with this one quote, he proves his thesis:
"The conclusion? This loss is on the head coach. Not the players. The coach." Who said it wasn't? Whenever you are a leader, every loss ultimately lies in your lap.
And why not throw a few of these in to make your readers feel the way you do about McDermott, "No coach can clap their way through this loss." "And the more you learn about this historic collapse, the more it appears the head coach once empowered as the judge, juror and executioner at One Bills Drive should be No. 3." He is trying to paint McDermott as some tyrannical leader, but gives no proof other than his own opinion and that one quote from one player.
And one last point. His whole thing that McDermott has also been closed mouth in-house again comes from Isiah, who admittedly missed the team meeting, and possibly 1-3 other players he talked to (but who didn't give him a quote about it), and who might not be high enough on the ladder to get explanations anyhow (do we really think McDermott didn't talk to say Josh, or Micah, or Jordan in their final meetings about what happened. Or that he, Frazier, Beane, and the Pegulas haven't discussed it, etc., etc.). Not saying it might not be true that McDermott was closed lip with parts of the organization (because their pay grade didn't warrant them being a part of those discussions), but this is the only other proof we get from Dunne, the following quote:
Everything ended very “abruptly,” one team source said.
So, the actual quote is "abruptly," the rest of the words are the writers. So what is the actual context to "abruptly?" We're supposed to take a one word quote from an anonymous source and extrapolate out that everyone hates McDermott or something? And who is a team source? A coach, a trainer, someone in the cafeteria? What would it really tell us anyhow unless we knew at least their position with the team.
It is what it is, a writer having a premise/agenda for an article, tries to find proof to back up his thesis. When there is very little to actually go on, take what little you have and make it seem like it is more, and use a lot of emotionally-charged words to direct your reader to your foregone conclusion.
More opinion piece, than any type of hard-hitting investigative journalism imo.
SHOCKING that the guy who hosts a podcast with Jim Monos and Doug Whaley would come out with yet another McDermott hit piece. This tries to come off as a Seth Wickersham-style deep dive is just Dunne carrying Whaley's and Monos' water for them.
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4 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:
Good article in TBN by Mark Gaughn.
Tantalizingly, before Joe Schoen was hired by the Giants, he said he was "working on the salary cap" for the Bills and "they're going to have some money". This was sweet news to us fans because Spotrac has us at -$2.2M.
Gaughn correctly identifies a Stefon Diggs extension as the #1 way the Bills could save some $$:
Gaughn points out other cap savings targets including Beasley, Klein, Feliciano, and (after June 1) Lotulelei.
However, he omits the "Elephant in the Room": Edmunds is due $12.7M guaranteed on his 5th year option. Extending him could lower that cap hit to half or less.
I think Gaughn is mistaken on this point:
As Jason Fitzgerald of OvertheCap explains:
So no, this does NOT allow the team to get the extra cap relief early.
Since that's a 2013 article I went looking for something more recent which gives the same information:
Again, confirmation that designating a March cut "post June 1" does NOT give the team extra cap relief during March FA. It does allow them to avoid paying roster bonuses, but the rest of the salary cap remains on the books until...after June 1.
It does somewhat because you can sign your draft picks after June 1
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Bills sign Dawson Knox to 4-year $53.6 mill extension ($31 mill gtd) through 2026
in The Stadium Wall
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When you factor in the current contract that he's on for this year, this puts Dawson Knox's overall contract at 5 yrs, $56ish million, which is just over $11 mil per year average. This slots him under Jonnu Smith and Hunter Henry.
This is an extension so I would be surprised if they didn't add some money to this season and the bonus is spread out over the 5 years starting with this season.