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10 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:
So after Friday, he's owed 2 yrs/ 18.5M, all not gauranteed
YR1: 6.6
YR2: 11.8
He's a really good candidate to get for a mid round pick and possibly give him an additional year and guarantee some yr1 money. 6.6 is also not that much to restructure and give him some void years.
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11 hours ago, Einstein said:
I researched him extensively and I don’t know how anyone can say he’s not very good. The Ravens have an award for best linemen of the game. Powers won it 8 times last season.He’s also pretty NASTY and I like that. In college he told a reporter “I love taking a grown mans dream and just crushing it”. We need braulers like that on our team.
Speaking of PFF, they show his blocking got BETTER after Lamar got injured and went out.
Powers is a good player. The Broncos are paying him 12.6 APY and the Bills just gave McGovern 7.6. I think the Bills will try to do some work on the OL to improve but their cap situation and the $$ resources that they've already put into it suggest that it will likely be a multi-year project. Without moving on from Morse (who I think the plan is that this is his last year here based on his contract), they can't really give someone a high APY on the OL.
Depending on what they think about Brown (and we don't really know despite what Beane has said publicly) I would guess they either sign a RT who can compete with Brown and spend a RD3-5 pick on an IOL with upside OR they are going RT with that RD1 pick. My guess is that they sign a vet RT to compete with Brown.
McGovern's versatility now allows them to potentially go into next year and comfortably move on from Morse (who is a 10+ cap hit). They can then move either Bates or McGovern to C (both have shown that they can play C - I actually really like Bates C personally) and have space to bring in another high APY OL with Morse now gone.
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5 hours ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said:
Three minutes before you wrote this, you checked his profile. Didn't you check the date Yolo last logged in?
Only shows his last post or at least that's all I could figure out.
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Has he even been online recently? Should be a way to check his activity on the site.
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3 hours ago, benderbender said:
19) Tremaine Edmunds, #Patriots, 5 years, 77.7M.
Looking more like only WE think he’s worth 20 a year
I think the Bills would probably pay that deal too
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1 hour ago, LABILLBACKER said:
I want young promising wrs on rookie deals. No more re-animating Beas, Smoke or Bob.
The Bills have a somewhat complicated passing system. Alot of route options/decisions to be made based on coverage. It's why they like vet WRs and why I think McKenzie had struggles in an increased role.
That's not to say that we won't have young WRs but the Bills will always have veteran WRs on the roster IMO especially after what happened last year.
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49 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:
Any of the LA teams actually. That’s home to him.
Yeah. I could see Chargers.
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1 hour ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:
Back to LA.
They traded him so I'm not sure he'd be so open to just head back there.
I think he'd have Buffalo on his list of teams. He'd be a perfect WR to add in as a jack-of-all-trades type. Kind of like a younger Manny Sanders (who we missed last year IMO). Also, he'd be pretty familiar with Kromer's schemes which has the WRs blocking quite a bit. I doubt he's going to cost much.
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22 hours ago, Chaos said:
It takes time for an oline to gel. Ours has had time and hasn't gelled. I think drafting an entire oline together (or most of an oline) and being able to keep them on rookie contracts for 4-5 years gives a team the best chance to build something special. This is my mock draft via the PFF simulator (PFF didn't love it). Flame away. I am more curious about what people think on trying to build a same age oline more than dinging or braising the individual players.
Love Van Pran but he's going back to school. I think he'll go much earlier next year too.
I think I'm hoping our first 4 picks are 2 OL, 1 WR, and 1 DT - not in that order necessarily.
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What is more interesting is that Al Holcomb is going to be called "Senior defensive assistant" when the Bills already have Eric Washington on staff as "senior defensive assistant/DL coach." I haven't seen too many instances where a team has 2 senior assistants.
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15 hours ago, nucci said:
Replace Frazier when he leaves
Leslie Frazier is 64. I would guess Bobby Babich is probably in line to be the team's next DC sooner rather than later. He is currently the LBs coach. Al Holcomb is a well respected LB coach in the NFL and has been a DC in two different places.
Read between the lines.
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16 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said:
Restructuring Von's contract is a risk no matter what anyone says. We will see what Beane thinks about it.
If anything, his would be the last to get restructured IMO.
The 2024 Salary Cap issue will be a tougher one than this year if all these moves are made.
The Bills will have 35 million in cap space for 2024 if they just do the Von and Josh restructures and cut Hines, Neal, and McKenzie. They can get to $57 mil by restructuring Diggs and cutting Morse (assuming they don't do that this offseason). That's also with Allen playing on a $47 MIL cap number and having Milano and Dawkins in the final years of their contracts (they will either be cut or extended - either choice saves money of the 2024 cap). Dawson Knox has a contract that can be restructured as well.
Not sure what 2024 Cap issue you are referring to specifically.
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Seeing alot about cutting Hines. I should have put in a note that I would be in favor of giving him a small extension that lowers his cap hit. Mostly just cut him because he has the 16th highest cap hit among RBs and that isn't a justifiable use of cap space given that he'll likely be the 3rd option and RB and play STs.
As far as Von's restructure - the Bills can't get out of his contract in any way realistic way until after the 2024 season. He has GTD salaries until then. His restructure spreads out roughly over $10 million over the remaining 5 years - so you are adding about $2.5 mil to his future cap hits.
His 2023 cap number goes from 18.6 to 7.6.
His 2024 cap number goes from 21 to 23.9.
Half of his 2024 salary is GTD so the Bills were NEVER getting away from this large 2024 cap hit.
With no restructure, the cost to cut him after 2024: DEAD MONEY 7.41 | CAP SAVINGS 13.8
With the restructure, the cost to cut him after 2024: DEAD MONEY 15.7 | CAP SAVINGS 8.2
The cap saving benefits of doing his restructure now far outweigh the extra 5.6 mil in cap savings that the Bills will get on the 2025 cap if they just kept the contract as is. To put it in a bit of perspective. The 10.8 mil that Bills save on the 2023 cap with the restructure is roughly 5% of the 2023 cap. The extra 5.6 mil in cap savings that the Bills will get on the 2025 cap (which is projected as 282 mil) is roughly 2% of the 2025 cap.
This also doesn't factor in the idea that Miller could be just fine from his injury AND that the equivalent of a $24 mil Von Miller cap hit in 2025 (which is what his 2025 cap hit would be after the restructure) would be a $19 mil cap hit for the 2023 season which is roughly what Von Miller's current cap hit is now without the restructure. This is basically a free $10.8 million cap savings.
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Wanted to do a mock offseason but realizing that the Salary Cap portion is kind of a thread all on its own. I know its been discussed here but I don't think I've seen anything where the money and decisions are really broken down with the corresponding numbers. Obviously, this won't be everyone's kind of thread as i realize that some people just don't take that big of interest into the inner roster workings and cap crunching. Would love to get some feedback though on what others think of some of these decisions and some of the different cap saving routes we could go.
Initial Cap Space: -16.8 million
Step 1: Creating Cap Space (easy moves)
-Restructure Josh Allen => creates 21.5 million in cap space
-Restructure Von Miller => creates 10.8 million in cap space
-Cut Nyheim Hines => creates 4.8 million in cap space
-Cut Isaiah McKenzie => creates 2.6 million in cap space
-Cut Siran Neal => creates 2.2 million in cap space
These moves are no brainers IMO and would give the Bills roughly $25 million in cap space heading into the offseason. The rookie pool will account for roughly $7 million. So the Bills will effectively have $18 million in cap space for FA contracts and re-signings after these moves. Josh Allen's deal is structured for us to restructure it several times before we extend him again and if it reaches a point where we are afraid to restructure it because his play has dropped off or because of injury then we are screwed in that short term and will just need to eat it. Von's deal seems to be structured for him to do a planned restructure this offseason. Cutting Hines sucks because I like the player but paying a backup RB almost $5 mil on the cap is just terrible roster management. I wouldn't be opposed to doing a small extension that could lower his cap hit some but realistically I don't think it makes sense. McKenzie and Neal are backups who are just paid too much considering how much playing time we want them to get moving forward.
Step 2: Creating more Cap Space (harder decisions) - players who I don't think should play on these cap numbers next year
-Mitch Morse at 11.6 => I think with the way his contract is structured initially this coming season would be his last with the Bills. Next year, they can get out the contract with real minimal dead money. But I don't know if it's justifiable to pay him over $11 mil on the cap next year simply due to his overall play. He is paid as a top 10 C and I don't think his overall play is there at all. Not to mention that we have a very capable C in waiting in Ryan Bates. Cutting Morse would save the Bills $5.3 million. Morse has $0 GTD this year or next with cap hits of over $11 mil and base salaries of $6.6 and $6.8 so I wonder if there is a good chance here to work on a salary reduction that gives him money this year and lowers that 11 mil hit to something more manageable. Either way, I'm trying to save at least $3-$5 mil on the cap by cutting him or working out a salary reduction. Lets just split the difference and say we save $4 mil.
-Ed Oliver at 10.7 and Tim Settle at 4.9 => The interior of the Bills DL was a big let down last season. Daquon Jones was the only player that I felt was having a solid season. Oliver was streaky and he has periods where he is just invisible. Settle was a disappointment. Bills are locked in to $10.7 GTD for Oliver this year. I don't think a trade is going to make any sense for another team given that Oliver's full salary is GTD. Maybe the best thing here is to extend Oliver with a reasonable out in two years. Try to take your lumps in the future when the cap hopefully rises and you can better absorb some dead money. Or you get lucky and he takes a step and you have him signed to a reasonable deal. Just don't think he play on that cap number. Settle isn't signed after next year and I think I'd just cut him and save the 2.2 mil.
I'd extend Oliver at 4yrs, 44 million, giving him a 13 mi signing and GTD his year 1 salary and a portion of year 2. Total GTD $: 17.9
Signing bonus: 13 million
Year 1 cap: 5.15
Year 2 cap: 8.25
Year 3 cap: 14.25 (can cut him before this season saving 7.75m)
Year 4 cap: 16.75
Cap Savings from Morse cut or salary reduction: calling it $4 mil
Cap Savings from Oliver extension: 5.55 mil
Cap Savings from Settle release: 2.2 mil
Total effective cap room: roughly $29-30 million
Step 3: Dion Dawkins and Matt Milano
So I've lumped these two guys together because they are both 29 and have been consistent performers. They are both effectively signed for two more years and I think both are likely candidates for small extensions in a year or two. As such, it could also be beneficial to restructure their deals and buy some more cap room. Especially if there are plans to extend them moving forward. For now, I will just leave it as a thought, but the Bills can save roughly $6 mil on a Dawkins re-structure and another 6.5 on a Milano re-structure. I think you would only do this if there was a strong plan to extend these guys moving forward though.
Anyway, would love hear some opinions on some of these decisions. Nothing really seems too out of left field IMO.
Will try to put together something for Free Agency with regards to the salary cap in a few days.
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Hunter Renfrow
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Well written piece. Awful circumstances.
Maybe this deserves to be pinned?
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6 hours ago, Billl said:
How do you commit $25+ million a year to two LBers who don't rush the QB? That's a huge chunk of money to what amounts to arguably the least impactful defensive positions.
Any Edmunds extension will likely be in the long term range, which is going to keep his cap hit depressed in the early going. Due to his age, you could likely see an obvious restructure put in for year 2, which will effectively keep his cap hits low until his 3rd season on the contract (age 27) which could line up with a Milano cut.
I'm not fully in the "re-sign Edmunds" camp but it certainly feels like a very doable thing cap wise. I highly doubt he will be getting the gaurantees that Roquan got so I could see a long term deal that has some funny money at the end. Hell, he's so young that you could conceivably dip into his contract 3 times for cap coupons before he hits 28yo.
Year 1 (25)- Sign him - initial cap hit is low
Year 2 (26) - planned restructure - lower cap hit
Year 4 (28) - small extension - lower cap hit
Year 6 (30) - release. Eat some dead money
Obviously, would have to spend more time digging into the numbers here to see a more accurate version of this, but that isn't an overall bad situation given his age and athleticism.
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23 hours ago, 4merper4mer said:
I was listening to a Senior Bowl report earlier in the week where people were head over heels for Rice.
He's exactly the type of WR that we need. Great size, great hands, great athleticism. Alot of his highlights are contested catches. Can lineup inside and outside. Can play the big slot WR role that is becoming prevalent in a lot of NFL offenses. This would be a great pick if it fell this way. SMU has been quietly churning out some quality NFL WRs and Rice might the best one. I just like his WR profile overall and think its a more important component than just finding a pure burner (Don't get me wrong, I want one of those as well). IMO, Rice could be like getting a young Emmanuel Sanders. A 2nd technically accomplished WR is something that I thought we missed alot last year.
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6 hours ago, HappyDays said:
Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe he only played center in college, not guard. Not sure we could rely on him to be a day one starter at guard. And he's going to be a 24 year old rookie like Boogie Basham was. So this would be a disappointing 1st round pick IMO. If he makes it to our pick in round 2, sure.
Basham turned 24 in December of his rookie season.
This dude will be 24 in March before the draft. I think it definitely gives me some pause on if this dude is worth a top 30 pick. Who was the last 24 year old rookie that turned out to be a great success?
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3 minutes ago, folz said:
Who knows what went on internally, but I wonder if one of the main issues actually was Jaquan Johnson. Obviously, Hyde and Poyer are practically coaches themselves back there, so things always seemed smooth. But when we had to turn to the young guys, Jaquan was obviously not ready. And though Damar was a tough SOB (especially for his size) when it came to hitting and tackling, maybe his coverage skills did not improve throughout the year. Maybe Salgado was good at getting his guys to implement the scheme/gameplan and things like that, but isn't great at teaching/developing players. And as someone said upthread, over the next few years with Poyer's age/contract, Hyde's age, and the salary cap, we may have a lot of young safeties that will need to be coached up. I don't think Salgado was some kind of scapegoat, my guess is some coaching deficiency may have been revealed throughout this season and they wanted an upgrade.
Of course, I know nothing of Joe Danna at this point, but to look only at the teams he's coached for and their record to judge him is very short-sighted. Gotta dig deeper (a position coach is not responsible for overall team record). Who has he coached up, what is his reputation amongst other coaches and players, is he known as a good teacher, etc.? As I said, I don't know anything about him yet, but I am not going to pan the hire until we know/hear/see more.
The Jaquan Johnson stuff is probably a big part of this. He was considered the MAIN backup at either S spot and he just wasn't ready to play and didn't look like he could play in the NFL.
Just looking into Danna's coaching upbringing. He has some good secondary coaches in his mentor list: Emmitt Thomas, Todd Bowles, Perry Fewell
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1 hour ago, Big Blitz said:
Put him at Guard I’d be good with this
He will be 24 in March. Not a complete "NO" from me but just something to think about with this prospect.
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8 minutes ago, BarleyNY said:
Not only that, Salgado has been here since 2017. Poyer and Hyde have been stellar the whole time and backups seemed to know their assignments when on the field. I understand that sometimes coaches get fired for reasons unrelated to their main job such as disagreements/personality conflicts with their managers. Maybe he told McD and Frazier they were stupid for rolling out soft coverages against the Bengals and they wanted him off the staff if he wasn’t on board with their plan. Who knows? It’s just weird though.
I’ve got no idea what’s up with the new hire. I hope he does well here.
Salgado was the safeties coach for just this season.
Bobby Babich (now LBs coach) was the safeties coach from 2018-2021, and he was assistant DB coach in 2017 with no safety coach listed so its safe to say that this the person who should be credited with any stellar play from our safeties.
The Bills are using a lot more 2 deep coverages (as is the entire NFL) so maybe Salgado just wasn't up to the task. The safety play this year was atrocious even for backup calibre players.
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Conservative Option:
-Sign T George Fant to compete with Spencer Brown. I would project this cap hit to be about 2 or 3 mil. This would give you a capable swing guy to spell Dawkins in case of injury as well.
-Target a OT rounds 3-5 of the draft. Examples: round 3 - Warren McClendon; round 4 - Nick Saldiveri
-Your OTs are Dawkins, Brown, Fant, Doyle, and your rookie developmental T
-Sign G Trai Turner, cap hit roughly 2-3 mil
-Draft a G in rounds 1-3 of the draft. The Bills need to flat out just add some athletic talent here. They don't really have any guys that can stand up physically to other teams interior lineman. Examples: round 2 - John Micheal Schmitz; round 2 - Cody Mauch
-Keep Morse at C
Dawkins-Bates-Morse-rookie/Turner-Fant/Brown | with a young mid round developmental lineman.
Other than rookie contracts, you've added roughly 4-6 mil in cap here.
Aggressive Option:
- Cut Morse (saving 5.36 mil on the cap-6mil dead money)
- Sign Ben Powers (10M AAV - year 1 cap hit 5m)
- Move Bates to C
- Draft OT in round 1 - Dawand Jones; competes with Brown (this dude is showing out so he might shoot up the draft board out of our range)
- Draft G/T in round 3 - Warren McClendon; starts at G, could play RT also
- Draft G/C in round 4 - Jarrett Patterson; backup at both G spots and played C for 3 years in college.
Dawkins-POWERS-Bates-McClendon-Jones
Other than rookie contracts, you are SAVING .36 mil on the cap here so you could probably still afford a quality backup G/T. And you are getting significantly younger and more athletic on the OL.
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1 hour ago, MrEpsYtown said:
I will say this, the Rams dudes regressed when he left there. But I think a lot of the credit for how strong our O line was in his previous stay needs to go to Greg Roman and his scheme.
But they were equally great when they switched full time to A. Lynn's running game which was different than Roman's. Kromer is good. I doubt he forgot how to coach. I think they are asking these guys to do stuff that is out of there skill set with going vertical so much.
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Definitely respecting what Miami is putting together. At least in the short term.