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Plus, this time last year, we were talking about Snead being a Top 10 pick and dying to get him.... Now look at him, UDFA signed by Tampa Bay.
In fairness, most college QBs get better every year. It's rare to get a case like Snead's, where he just fell apart in his last year as a starter.
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I think you're misinterpreting.
They like Brown as a developmental QB prospect, but I don't think anybody at One Bills Drive is pencilling him in for the 2012 starting QB. They took a flier on a guy in the 7th round who has some coachable qualities and they're going to give Gailey a chance to develop him. But there is just as much likelihood that Brown spends the 2010 season on the Bills practice squad. It's a 7th round pick. He is a project.
He could certainly develop into a starter. Anybody has a chance. But I doubt anybody there is counting on it.
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Anyone else concerned about all the Conversion LBs the Bills have on the roster now?
They were already converting Schobel (if he doesn't retire), Kelsay, and Maybin from DE to OLB and today they add 2 more via draft (Moats and Batten)
Not particularly. So few colleges play a 3-4 that it's rare you'll be able to draft a true 3-4 OLB. And most 4-3 OLBs project to ILB in a 3-4, so that means if you want to draft a 3-4 OLB, you need to look at 4-3 DEs.
Not every 4-3 DE can make the position switch, but since this is a rebuilding year anyway, it's a good time to find out which ones can and can't.
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Another small-school DE that will convert to LB. Unlike Moats, I really see Batten staying on the outside. I'm still obsessed with short shuttle times and vertical leaps:
http://www.footballoutsiders.com/nfl-draft...ducing-sackseer
And Batten's are good. 32.5" vertical is nothing impressive, but it's not really horrible, and his short shuttle is an insane 4.05s! That's elite for sure. I guess Batten has short arms, which is kind of a hindrance for outside contain, but has anyone been able to track down an actual measurement? I haven't. How short are we talking here? Does he need an extender to wipe his butt?
I always talk myself into way overrating all our late-round picks, and this year is no exception. (The exception was last year, when we went with a gonzo late run on DBs.) I really like both of these LBs in the 6th. LB is a position where good players frequently come out of the late rounds (along with C, OG, & S), so I don't think I'm totally crazy in thinking that at least one of these guys might wind up being a steal.
And yes, I am getting excited about two 6th-rounders just a couple hours after posting about how you can't get either angry or excited about anyone drafted this late. Big whoop, wanna fight about it?
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Fwiw, I heard him on Sirius NFL Radio and Moats stated that there were 3-4 defenses interested in him as an ILB prospect.
Makes a lot of sense. Physically, he's built better for ILB than OLB. Usually you like your OLBs taller than 6'0.5":
http://espn.go.com/blog/afceast/post/_/id/...-for-model-olbs
But I've always liked the shorter ILBs. London Fletcher, Zach Thomas, Sam Mills - none of them particularly over 6', all of them great players. Going past the height thing, we can look at his vertical and short shuttle times, which are the two measurements that best predict pass-rush success:
http://www.footballoutsiders.com/nfl-draft...ducing-sackseer
36.5" vertical and a 4.37 s short shuttle seems pretty solid, but unspectacular (the short shuttle looks below average, the vertical looks probably above average). I won't be disappointed if he's moved inside.
I love the fact that Moats was the I-AA DPOY. I feel like the best defensive player in I-AA in any given year is going to be able to make it in the NFL. Of course, sometimes the best player doesn't win the award, and it's not like I saw any I-AA games in any case, but still. I'd usually rather have the small school or I-AA cream of the crop than a BCS conference player who has ideal size, but stunk his whole career. In the late rounds, anyway.
Moats was clearly a notch or two above his competition athletically, which is a good sign. Definite special-teamer right now. Might be a legit player down the road. Or he might never make an NFL roster. That's the problem with these late picks.
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No, because I prefer watching football in bars so it's a social experience as well. Plus I don't want to get DirecTV. Plus I don't think the Bills will be worth it next year. But reasons 2 and 3 don't really matter, because reason 1 trumps all.
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which is exactly why he should remain on the team....he's a really good runningback, people seem to forget that.....hey, we have a good stable of backs, what's wrong with that?
+1. Sounds like they're planning on using Spiller on kicks & split wide around half the time anyway. So we've really got 2.5 backs, not 3. That's not really a logjam. Worked fine for the Saints last year & for the Giants in 2007. And the Raiders last year, actually. Bush, McFadden, & Fargas all split time and their overall running game was decent, even though the rest of the team was a shambles.
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I think you see some signed tonight, and a bunch more tomorrow. Teams usually start trying to sign UDFAs during the latter part of the 7th round. I don't see why that would change now that it's earlier.
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do we line up.. levitre, wang, then wood? or is it levitre, wood, then wang?
If Wang starts at LT and Wood moves to C, we'll start with Wang, then add Levitre, then get to full Wood. One UDFA I like at RG is this guy Myron Ejaculate. Got a good feeling about him.
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Positives: Addressed D-line early, especially at NT, the most important position. Got the consensus best player at one position at #9, & wasn't considered a reach. Did attempt to address O-line to some extent, although it may have been too late to make much of an impact.
Negatives: Passed a potential franchise QB twice. Passed on some potentially solid starters at LT (Davis, Bulaga, Staffold) once, passed on another (Brown) twice. May have reached for a couple of picks; probably could've traded down & still got their guy(s). Ignored positional value and long-term rebuilding strategy by going RB in the first round.
It's really a wait & see, of course. If Buddy's bizarro vision turns out to be true, and the presence of Spiller transforms our 30th-ranked offense, led by Trent Edwards behind Demetrius Bell, into a good offense, then this is an A+ draft. If none of the OTs that they passed on pan out, that would also help the grade. Clausen busting would be a major boost to the grade.
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I like the Calloway pick, McKinney was a free agent after last season and was not retained. They do lack a backup for the center position.
Gotta think Wood would slide over to C if they have any confidence in the primary backup at OG. We'll probably see a C or two brought in as UDFAs, though. Possibly a late UFA signing of a McKinney/Whittle type.
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Dude has pretty good size, arms on the short side but proably still long enough to play tackle. Same as teammate Bulaga, I think. NFL.com certainly likes the pick, based on their grading system. It'll be interesting to see whether the Bills see him as more of a tackle or a guard. I'm sure it'll come up in the introductory press conference. For a 7th-rounder, this guy probably has an excellent chance of making the team as a rookie, especially if they like him as a guard. Do we have any backups at OG right now? I thought McKinney was gone, and I can't think of any others (who don't also double as OTs) off the top of my head.
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You know, I consider myself one of the best serial bitchers on this board, and even I am growing tired of your act.
Who's bitching? Nothing wrong with the Brown pick. Or anyone at this point, really. But also no one worth getting excited over. If you get a good player in the 7th round, consider yourself lucky.
Overall, the Bills draft is a little disappointing to me, because it really showed how many holes we have, and how there was never any way to fill them all in one offseason. I can't say I'm very happy with the guys they passed up, but the guys they wound up taking look to be fairly solid. The only picks I can question on their own merit are the skill position guys, Spiller & Easley. But honestly, Spiller at least has the potential to shut up me and the rest of the haters. Easley not so much, but whatever, he's a 4th-rounder and should be a good special-teamer anyway.
And as I type, the Bills grab another OT. Solid. Could be the next Terrance Pennington or Demetrius Bell. Or better. Or worse. Definite crapshoot at this point.
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We sure love small school prospects this year.
Back in our heyday, most of our best picks were undervalued small school guys.
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Judging by the speed of their picks and the fact that many of these guys came in for visits or were known to be on the Bills' radar, seems like Nix and Co. had a short list of guys they wanted, and they've gotten most of them.
Yes, they seem very confident in their selections. Which means they look really dumb if those guys don't pan out.
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9.5 inch hands. Anyone who thought Clausen would be a bust due to hand size is forbidden from lauding this pick.
...In fact, everyone should be forbidden from lauding this pick. Ryan Fitzpatrick is one of the more successful 7th-round QBs in recent years, so that should give you an idea of the upside here. But please don't take that as bitching. The fact of the matter is, there's no one on the board who's even a lock to make the team, much less get on the field and make a positive contribution. Can't get excited or upset at this point.
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I think a lot of people/fans will be very happy with this pick in round 5. Hopefully, Easley will turn out to be a good player.
We'll see how he pans out. Certainly good to get another body in at OT. Fifth-rounders and up pretty rarely turn into productive players except on special teams, so we'd best not get too excited or disappointed from here on out.
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Born 3/12/87 in Fairfax, VA
How many generations does it take for someone to be American? You never hear of 2nd-generation Frenchies referred to as "French NFL players".
...of course, that's partly because there are no NFL players of French descent.
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BTW for the record, I would rather have brohm than the kitty edwards. NO coaching staff or OL will be able to fix edwards. He is a kitty that won't throw into coverage, his long ball flutters, can't throw the 15 yard out, can't read defenses , scared to pull the trigger and throw with anticipation.
Agree 100%. At least Brohm has a chance of not sucking, however small that is.
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WOOD, WANG, LEVITRE! THE HARDEST OLINE IN FOOTBALL!!
Big Cat wins best quick-reaction line! Laughed out loud for this one.
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Buffalo took an OT. Probably got very good value there as well. Can we all stop whining about it now?
Yes. Now that we've added a 5th-round pick to the mix, we should be set up front. This line was really one 5th-round pick away from being a great unit with tremendous depth. Most guys drafted in the 5th turn into Pro Bowlers, so we can safely move away from addressing the O-line.
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Dude, they selected Gronkowski in round 2 already. How many TEs can you have on the field at the same time?
Two in base offense, three in short-yardage and goal-line situations. And the Pats lost two TEs this offseason, so it makes a lot of sense to draft two.
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Yes, the OL has not been addressed, but Nix has said that he wants players to be able to come in an contribute and Easley is said to be a good special teams player - so this pick might be pretty good.
At least the Bills are getting bigger, taller and hopefully stronger where they should be.
Maybe they will trade for an experienced OT?
Nix, so far, has been true to his statement that there's no point in bringing in an OT unless he can help you right away (which I read to mean start this year). Maybe he really has convinced himself that the offense was 1 player away, and that player was Spiller.
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Question for the Righteous Defenders of the Bills:
If every pick is such a home run, how many wins will we get next year?
As for Easley, he's very much a one-year wonder, which Nix says he doesn't like. Strikes me as strictly a special-teamer unless he really surprises. With that size and speed, if he could catch or run routes, he wouldn't be there in the 4th.
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Meh. Campbell is a mediocre NFL QB, not a good one. Yes, he'd be an upgrade over the bad NFL QBs on our roster, but I don't see him taking this team to the playoffs. I'd rather hold out for a GOOD quarterback.