Thamus

Wouldn't that be ironic, after 40 years, Buffalo finally brings home a major professional championship and it is done with scabs?

Good one!! As a long time DB supporter and to this day, pro Drew, I reworked the XTC lyrics a few years back and posted it here. When I did that, it didn't get a very warm reception... Maybe now with all the anti-Drew sentiment it can be posted again? Here it is: My original was lost, I reworked it best from memory. "Dear Drew" , hope you got the letter, and... I pray you can make the Bills better over here. I don't mean a big reduction in the price of beer but all the fans that believed in you, see them starving on their feet 'cause they don't get enough SuperBowl wins from Drew, I can't believe in you Dear Drew, sorry to disturb you, but... I feel that I should be heard loud and clear. We all need a big reduction in amount of tears and all the fans that believed in you, see them fighting on The Stadium Wall 'cause they can't make opinions meet about Drew, I can't believe in you Did you make Tom Brady, and the Patriots blue? Did you make fans respect you after the Tuna made you? And Mo Lewis hit you too! , don't know if you noticed, but... your name is on a lot of stats in the record book, and us crazy fans think it is true, you should take a look, and all the fans that believe in you still think that junk is true. Well I know it ain't, and so do you, dear Drew, I can't believe in I don't believe in I won't believe in SuperBowl heaven and last place hell. No saviors, no MVPs, no Belichick as well. No hall of fames, no championship crown. You're always letting us fans down. The intercetions you throw, the sacks you down. Those receivers lost in the secondary and never found, and it's the same the whole NFL 'round. The hurt I see helps to compound that Drew at quarterback is just somebody's unholy hoax, and if you're up in Montana you'd perceive that my heart's here upon my sleeve. If there's one thing I don't believe in it's you....

That's NUTS!

I was 12 years old and remember it well. On a side note? Lake placid wasn't the first choice to host the winter games that year? Is that correct? Some other city backed out right? What was that city? I might not be correct but, I heard that somewhere. LP, being such a small venue has got to be great to host the games. You probably never see a games in such a small venue again! Quite a shame! Then again, LP is on the back up list in a pinch! ???

Valid point. So a waterskier isn't an athlete? What about extreme surfers? They need jetskis or boats to "tow-in" to the big wave. With out the mechanized vehicle, surfing huge waves would be impossible since they would never be able to "catch" up with it? What about sky-divers? Free-fallers? In rock climbing, only "free" climbing classifies you as an athelete? Okay, okay, ropes aren't machines, sorry. ???

Exactly!

If a guy makes 30k in 30 seconds trading on the internet verses the guy making 30k a year digging ditches. Which one worked? I think it is the same argument. Work smart not hard? Again, I just see the correlation between being a "worker" and the "athelete". Sorry if I am beating a dead horse. Does it require stamina? We are starting to cross that line into poker and checker playing now Steve. Things are getting gray!

You don't think a racecar driver loses weight during competition? So then a white collar person really doesn't work then? With what you said, I only threw that out because I can make a correlation between a blue collar person and a white collar person when it comes to accomplishing work. This is by no means an attempt to derail the topic. Not meant to get heated, either.

Yes, I guess so? At least for the duration of the competition. Being an athlete is not an elitist construct. I have never watched it but, it would seem that Survivor and stuff like that might be a true break form the traditional top-heavy, athletic elite sports. The definition says nowhere that you have to dedicate your life to the athletic endeavour.

Driving for 3 hours straight at 200 mph... It must be real easy holding that wheel like you are cruising in your Coupe De'Ville on a Sunday afternoon? How much athletic energy does it take to fight that wheel for 3 hours? They are all athletes, just as the person sitting behind a desk and the person digging a ditch is attempting to accomplish WORK. They are just using different athletic skills. Main Entry: ath·lete Pronunciation: 'ath-"lEt, ÷'a-th&-"lEt Function: noun Etymology: Middle English, from Latin athleta, from Greek athlEtEs, from athlein to contend for a prize, from athlon prize, contest : a person who is trained or skilled in exercises, sports, or games requiring physical strength, agility, or stamina No matter what you say. The physical strength needed to control the car, agility to preform at around 200 mph, and the stamina to do it for 3 hours straight (ocassional 30 second pit stops) CAN'T be taught (at that level) to everyone.

I noticed that too. I just didn't want to come off as whining too much. Could be Buffalo, TX? It is not. I caught it somewhere else that is our "beloved" Buffalo. It just struck me as sacrilege that a Fins jersey was painted on! At least "wear" your hometown jersey! Anyway, no big deal. Just a little funny!

You'll "die" alright!

Why do some here consider NASCAR drivers not athletes? It is not like they can be 300 lb. "top of the pyramid" eaters. The mental stamina needed is great, not to mention quick reflexes and athletic ability meeded to control the racecar. It is harder than you think to wheel one of those cars through a turn? It isn't like they are taking the family "Taurus" out for a spin st 170 mph?

Anybody catch the new SI swimsuit issue? Jessica White, from Buffalo, New York is one of the featured models! The thing that begs to be asked is: In the layout where the models have team uniforms "painted" on them... Why in the heck is JW "wearing" a number 54 (Zach Thomas) FINS JERSEY! Hailing from Buffalo, isn't that blasphemy? Is she an "item" with ZT? That is the only thing that would explain it. Not that I am complaining. But, a freaking Fins jersey?! Sorry no link...

I don't think he implied it to be a lie. When I read Sound_n_Fury's reply, I thought he was bringing into question the source of the information floated out there? ??Maybe I am wrong?? Your take has served the exact purpose. In any case, there is no need to lie, just dish the truth. But why? ??