Dr. K
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He's right. Foghorn Kevin Harlan makes me turn off the sound.
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1 hour ago, The Wiz said:
That was my first thought also.
Though this does tend to make me think of the whole "Toronto bills" possibility so I can understand.
Not sure how significant the difference is in distance.
There is no distance element. Kansas City MO and Kansas City KS are separated by a street called State Line. I used to live in Missouri and work in Kansas and traveled a distance of precisely two blocks to go from my apartment to my office.
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14 hours ago, JaCrispy said:
I don’t trust McD...always seems like he’s hiding something, when he speaks...
Beane seems more like a straight shooter...
McDermott strives never to say anything that gives another team the advantage, or supplies bulletin board material, or that throws one of his coaches or players under the bus. That makes his press conferences rather wooden--he's so cautious--but I respect that. He's always trying to avoid distractions and do what is best for the TEAM.
I have to respect that.
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I confess I don't know anything, but I am worried that investing heavily in a player so far along in years could backfire. He could get injured or his play could decline drastically.
The Bills have pushed themselves up against the cap with aging players like Miller and Saffold.
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He's a good, gutsy player, and on the field he did a lot for this team.
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6 minutes ago, IronMaidenBills said:
Who’s the problem if it isn’t McDermott or Beanes? The players? Who is responsible for acquiring this players? Who is responsible for positioning those players in strategic positions to win games? How am I being dishonest, I’m just trying to figure out who gets the most blame as objectively as possible and only one other poster in here has tried to do so. I’m thankful that poster has contributed great substance.
Why present a "poll" as if you think it is an open question when you already know the answer? That's fundamentally dishonest, and it was evident from your very first post. I did not even know what you opinion was before I clicked on this thread but it was instantly obvious as soon as I read that. Everything after that was blowing smoke.
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Just now, IronMaidenBills said:
So let’s discuss the issues here, what assumptions? How do you go about determining why we haven’t won Super Bowls?
You really are ridiculously dishonest. Just admit you think McDermott and Beane are the problem. I've got nothing more to say to you.
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1 minute ago, IronMaidenBills said:
Because how can I blame McDermott if we can at least come to some approximate gauge to what is roster talent rankings? We need to be able to determine a good metric before we can start placing blame on coaching. What we do know is we have a top 3 QB statistically despite having below average line play. Which is really incredible to think about.
Really, your agenda is screaming out from under your "dispassionate" analysis. There are so many assumptions buried under the way you've put this that it's laughable even to engage with you. This is a waste of our time.
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1 hour ago, IronMaidenBills said:
Bills under Pegula’s. Sorry, should have been more clear. I want to try and make this as less subjective as possible. Where would you rank our overall talent acquisition across the league? 6th, 3rd, 1st? And what gauge should we use? Statistical quartiles analysis weighted based on positional importance?
Where do we rank McDermott in coaching performance league wide? 10th, 7th, 3rd, etc? What statistical performance gauge are we using to judge coaches? I seriously want to know where we should be placing blame mathematically.
Any answer to this question is going to be subjective--especially when you frame it the way you did, which slants the answer toward blaming the coaching.
This is an incredibly passive aggressive way to start another anti-McDermott thread. Why not just come out and say you blame McDermott for the Bills not winning a Super Bowl and call for his firing?
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I swear to God that if the fans ran this team they would not win three games a year. They are hysterical.
I hope most of them are not responsible for running anything important in the world.
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1 hour ago, folz said:
Let me take a stab at showing why some think the article is disingenuous in a manner.
He starts off with what his obvious opinion and thrust of his slant for the article:
"Obviously, Sean McDermott owed more to the public."
This is obviously either bothering the writer himself, or he knows he can stoke his readership by bringing up something he knows they are upset about. But Sean McDermott doesn't owe the public an explanation. He is not a public servant. He works for the Pegulas and the NFL. Also, as a good leader, he is making sure that no one (player or coach) gets thrown under the bus. Do people really want him to point fingers? Or instead of saying, ultimately it was his responsibility/execution, did they want him to break down at the podium and say, "It's all my fault. I screwed up. Woe is me." A good leader doesn't do either of those things. A good leader handles their business internally, picks themselves up, and moves on. I just don't know what people want from him.
But, the real problem to me with the article is this:
"so many of the men who poured their blood, sweat and tears into the organization have been left completely in the dark...With those 13 seconds shrouded in mystery, players were forced to investigate themselves. Many, of course, declined to speak which is understandable considering their boss has refused to utter a word of substance on the matter. There’s little upside. But several did share their findings with Go Long on the condition of anonymity."
So he starts off telling us how "many" players feel...leading us to believe it is like a majority of the players. Then tells us "many" players declined to speak. So did many players feel what you said if many players declined to talk? And notice how he's amping up the animosity towards McDermott (and his feeling of the situation) with his emotionally-charged word choices (see bolded phrases above). This is what in the courtroom would be considered leading a witness (or in this case, a reader). So, after saying many players did not comment, he claims that "several did share their findings...on the condition of anonymity."
Let's break that down. How many are several? The definition of several is "More than two, but not many." So, rather than that original "MANY" players he inferred he knew how they felt, we are down to maybe a small group of players. And he says the player's "share their findings" from these "investigations" that they were "forced" to make on their own. Ok, what did this small group of players conclude? What are the actual quotes that will bring us to a better understanding of what happened or what is going on? Well, Dunne offers us four quotes total from either 2, 3, or 4 players. The way they are placed in the article, it could only be two players talking, or it could be up to 4 players (definitely not "many").
“You preach accountability,” one player said. “But you don’t practice it.”
Said one player: “Everybody knew that if we just beat Kansas City, we would’ve beat any team.”
And another: “We definitely would’ve won the Super Bowl.”
“You don’t get over,” one player said, “a game like that.”
The first quote is almost undoubtedly from McKenzie. The other three quotes have nothing to do with the 13 seconds or who is to be held accountable, etc. There is no investigative work here by the players or the writer. It is just what any player would say after a tough loss, or what you're expectation was. Nothing to do with McDermott or how he handled the situation then or since.
So, after starting off making us think that the majority of the team feels the way the writer is leading us, it all comes down to one anonymous quote, from one player. So, one player said the coach needs to practice accountability and from that we are to believe there is some kind of mutiny at One Bills Drive?
And with this one quote, he proves his thesis:
"The conclusion? This loss is on the head coach. Not the players. The coach." Who said it wasn't? Whenever you are a leader, every loss ultimately lies in your lap.
And why not throw a few of these in to make your readers feel the way you do about McDermott, "No coach can clap their way through this loss." "And the more you learn about this historic collapse, the more it appears the head coach once empowered as the judge, juror and executioner at One Bills Drive should be No. 3." He is trying to paint McDermott as some tyrannical leader, but gives no proof other than his own opinion and that one quote from one player.
And one last point. His whole thing that McDermott has also been closed mouth in-house again comes from Isiah, who admittedly missed the team meeting, and possibly 1-3 other players he talked to (but who didn't give him a quote about it), and who might not be high enough on the ladder to get explanations anyhow (do we really think McDermott didn't talk to say Josh, or Micah, or Jordan in their final meetings about what happened. Or that he, Frazier, Beane, and the Pegulas haven't discussed it, etc., etc.). Not saying it might not be true that McDermott was closed lip with parts of the organization (because their pay grade didn't warrant them being a part of those discussions), but this is the only other proof we get from Dunne, the following quote:
Everything ended very “abruptly,” one team source said.
So, the actual quote is "abruptly," the rest of the words are the writers. So what is the actual context to "abruptly?" We're supposed to take a one word quote from an anonymous source and extrapolate out that everyone hates McDermott or something? And who is a team source? A coach, a trainer, someone in the cafeteria? What would it really tell us anyhow unless we knew at least their position with the team.
It is what it is, a writer having a premise/agenda for an article, tries to find proof to back up his thesis. When there is very little to actually go on, take what little you have and make it seem like it is more, and use a lot of emotionally-charged words to direct your reader to your foregone conclusion.
More opinion piece, than any type of hard-hitting investigative journalism imo.
This is my take on the article precisely.
I can see why Dunn is angry and can imagine that some players are too. But whatever is substantive in this article is poisoned by Dunn's animus.
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33 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:
It very much reads to me as the one single even slightly controversial thing said over the course of an entire interview…and then making that the focus of your article.
One of the quotes that article cites is a player saying "You don't get over a game like that."
Duh. No kidding Sherlock.
This quote says nothing about McDermott or anybody else. The writer just sticks it into his innuendo so that in that context it LOOKS LIKE it supports his implications about McDermott. That's what I mean when I say this is written like a 1956 Hollywood Confidential gossip column. It's adolescent BS pretending to be journalism.
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47 minutes ago, 4_kidd_4 said:
https://www.golongtd.com/p/it-was-a-bad-bad-situation?s=r
“You preach accountability,” one player said. “But you don’t practice it.”
This piece is written like a Hollywood gossip column from 1956, dripping with sarcasm and innuendo. It's childish.
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21 hours ago, Doc said:
"Consulate professional"?
He works for the State Department.
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No No NO
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15 hours ago, ScottLaw said:
Yea, he made the point about one injury away from derailing that season and being screwed the next few seasons because of that big move you made…. Which I understand but sometimes you gotta take some risks…. And I think he values his picks way too much.
This isn't a criticism, just an observation: from reading your posts over a long period of time, I realize your instincts and mine are pretty much exactly opposite.
Some people who post here fall, in my mind, into the category of "fools." You do not. But when the traffic light is turning yellow, you hit the gas while I hit the brake. I don't think either choice is the "right" one--very few choices are right all of the time, but still....
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Almost unreadable and then once you struggle through it you realize it wasn't worth reading.
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Wow, how the hell did these two teams end up in this game. The Bills must be eating their livers out.
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A good friend of mine is a longtime Bengals fan--as long suffering as us Bills fans--so my heart would like to see the Bengals win just for him.
However, my head says the LA D-line is going to harass Burrow all day and he won't be able to create enough magic to overcome that. This reminds me a bit of the Raiders-Bucs Super Bowl at the end of the 2002 season, when people expected a close game. I had the feeling the Bucs would blow out the Raiders, and they did, 48-21
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Nope. Here it is:
- Make the playoffs.
- Win every playoff game.
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Prime numbers are good.
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Maybe some of the fans on the Chiefs message board are trashy, but I lived in Lawrence KS and KC for ten years and the people there, and the fans, are salt of the earth types.
Every team has its dirtbag fans, but I don't think the Chiefs fans are particularly offensive. Midwesterners are rather the contrary.
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On a spit, roasted over a slow fire.
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I just have a feeling that the Titans win this going away. I bet they are feeling disrespected big time.
And I have a feeling that Henry will NOT be a big factor.
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Bills eyeing Gilmore…Hmmmm 🤔
in The Stadium Wall
Posted · Edited by Dr. K
Plus there was a loud contingent of Bills fans who did nothing but bad mouth him while he was here.
Though I'm not sure he's worth the cash it would take at this stage of his career.