DanInUticaTampa
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woot woot! no replay for me
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barring an injury, I think they keep all 3 of them. All three looked good in the 1st game, all are affordable. Cassel and tyrod are the ones that would save us money, and no way they cut tyrod and cassel is looking good enough as a safety net. And in my opinion, EJ still has potential and we won't save anything by cutting him. EJ looked better in that game than he has before. I think he has improved, even if he is a step behind the other two guys. EJ can still get better and possibly fill in later if one or both of the others get injured.
Im trying to keep an even temper because it was just one preseason game. But All I can think of is last year and we had 5 preseason games and it took forever for the 1st team to score a TD. This offense looks so much improved. It isn't an offense that will light teams up, but it will keep them honest.
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that is terrible. Preseason injuries that end your season are the worst.
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Joe B was right. That DB could have made a play on that ball. If his arms were 4 times longer
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Taylor and Cassel still have him beat by a year.
More than that. Ej sat out last part of last year, the rest he was either thrown to the wolves or injured
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Straight from Rex and his post game presser. I hope he makes the most of it.
Me too. If he is good, then he really should become the favorite. Browns have a great D, probably the best we will play in preseason. It will be a good test
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All three guys will get a good look over the next two games. I suspect Cassell starts week 2 and then they give Tyrod week 2 meaningful snaps, EJ continues mop up. Week 3 they give the start to EJ and the second have to TT.
naw, tyrod or ej gotta get the start next week, probably tyrod since he seems more ready. They cant get a fair comparison if all 3 do the same snaps every week. They each need to get a shot with/against the starters.
This is going to be a tought choice, they are look equally bad/good for different reasons, so it is impossible to compare the 3 of them. I think it isn't going to come down to who is the best QB, but the best one that fits the system. They are all about equal imo, but each has a completely different skillset
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From what I've read in this thread, I cannot wait to watch the NFLN replay tomorrow AM and hear Tasker's amazing broadcast. Sounds like it will be epic.
Im watching the replay tomorrow, but on mute. I had plenty of warning in this thread
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All in all, I liked what I saw from our offense. Wasn't ground breaking, but it seemed to at least look productive. All three QBs had pluses (and a couple minuses), I'm encouraged that whomever wins will hopefully be good enough to at least not lose us games
I didn't get to watch the game, but from what I am hearing I agree. nothing great, but it looks better than last year
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Im not watching the game, but we are killing it in TOP. ball control!
Now we need some rest
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People are saying miller is looking good. how is the rest of the oline looking? I don't have access to the game
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Kirby, they wasted about ten tweets last night ridiculing EJ's first pass that flew "into the hospitality tent." Only Chris Trapasso (hardly an EJ apologist) tweeted the actual trajectory of the play. There was no reason for it; it was like that group of mean girls in H.S. who relentlessly badger the unpopular girl. Don't tell me there isn't an agenda.
I don't think that there is an agenda exactly. I do think the local media is extremely biased against EJ. I personally think it is because even though all 3 of these guys look like a lousy excuse for a starting QB, EJ is the one the local media has seen play the most in the past couple years, so he is the one they are being more critical on. Where as cassel and taylor weren't here last year, so they "have to be better!" is in their mindset. I don't think they even realize where there bias stem from, or realize it exists. but I am pretty positive it is because EJ is a holdover from last season and the other guys are new.
I don't think they have an agenda though.
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You can't make caviar from mashed potatoes.
challenge accepted
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Our QB situation has really sucked, but I am so glad we don't have bullygate, deflategate, and this breaking players jaw issues that our division has had over the years.
Now, I would gladly take all 3 of those problems in exchange for aaron rodgers.
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What do you mean "used to be?"
I hit up Drafttek a lot. And for the record, at this point I'd be happy if Hackenburg fell into our lap Astro. I can dream.
"used to be" was just meant as in that the draft used to be the biggest thing I would read his posts for, but now that has expanded to other things haha.
He is also an excellent follow on twitter, any bills fan on twitter needs to follow him. He was one of my favorite people to follow during free agency this year.
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I understand is you wouldn't feel right about it Astro, but I'd be happy to slide a couple of bucks for your hard work.
If not, maybe something to get our own site up and running. Seriously, between some of our seasoned posters I think we could do better Bills coverage and analysis than a lot of places do.
I second this. At least create a blog. Astro used to be great for draft stuff, but over the years his analysis of training camps and other stuff has really grown as well. There are a lot of draft stuff out there, but he would really stand out with his other stuff. Not being able to go to camp, his stuff seems to be the most informative. All the "professionals" say the same thing and are redundant. Astro puts in points about things that I don't think the reporters even understand
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That's really true, and we really don't know the answer to that yet. It' very possible he is simply not accurate enough combined with processing information at 100mph. But it's also possible that lack of experience and lack of confidence because of that lack of experience is the main factor in his mechanics breaking down and his inaccuracy. It's really that simple. And it cannot be known without him playing in practice in this offense, and preseason games, and probably regular season games.
These are things I am wondering too as what is the problem. With his accuracy, when it comes to "point and shoot" his accuracy seems high, like elite high. But then in an in game setting, that is where his accuracy takes a nose dive. Is it because he isn't processing info fast enough? Not reading a defense? Confidence issue? Game plan/coaching? Chemstry? Bad oline?
If he isn't processing info fast enough, I would think experience would help him with that. I go back to his rookie year. If my memory is right, the jests are the only team he has played twice. In his rookie year they had a pretty good d. In the first game, he looked horrible. In the 2nd game, he probably had his best game. So I really thought after playing the jets D, he learned and understood it better and in turn he was able to play much better in the 2nd jets game. This is going back to his rookie year though
the short passes are concerning to me because I would think that would be better by now. I have not been at camp, but based on how he played in the past, his short throws that missed were caused by pressure from the D line. And we really need someone that is better when being pressured, because in our division, the QB is going to get pressured a lot, even if the oline is better than last year.
Being better at longer passes than short gives me bad memories of losman. Couldn't manage a game to save his life. If he didn't complete an 80 yard bomb to evans then he wasnt scoring period.
I like EJ, and I am rooting for him. I am hoping that not only does he win the job, but he actually turns into a decent QB.
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They really need to increase the roster size from 53 to like 56. With all the multiple formations and specialty roles, teams need extra roster spots in the modern day nfl.
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My guess is that even after the 1st pre-season game Ryan will judge it to be too soon to cut Cassel even if he stinks in that game. he action he likely would take before cutting Cassel is to give his reps with the 1st team to Tyler and Manual.
Cutting him before Manuel and Tyler prove themselves would likely be a total panic move.
In fact, if Cassel is cut the major driver in this move is not that Cassel is not a #1 talent (actually he ain't) it will be because Simms has played well enough to hold down the #3 disaster QB position AND Tyler is solid enough to be #2.
Locker or any other available QB is likely a non-factor at this point with this only happening if some other teams makes a surprising cut (likely because they panic at QB as you seem to want the Bills to do)..
I think they keep all 4 on through the 3rd preseason game just in case there is an injury. After the third game is where 1 of them will be cut.
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Only Bills fans panic over the QB position on the fourth day of camp.
Except when trent edwards was our QB. He looked like a stud in camp, and everything looked fine to everyone. But then we saw him play a game....
I am not hitting the panic button yet. Anyone that was expecting a QB to light it up this quickly was dreaming. We don't have a lot of talent at the QB position. I think when rex said the blue/white scrimmage on saturday will be the first big test, I think that is true. We don't know how these QBs are doing because we aren't seeing everything. There might be better or worse results going on in the closed practices.
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I need to see them in some preseason games before I go all chicken little.
I still think these coaches are handling this right. the last time I recall a legit 3 QB competition was when the seahawks did it with Flynn, Wilson, and jackson. You had 1 vet, 1 unknown backup, and 1 rookie. We arguably have a similar thing with 1 unknown backup, 1 vet, and 1 young player. This is a good recipe. Cassel has vet experience and we kind of know what we get from him. Taylor and EJ both have potential, so maybe one of them surprises.
I really think we are doing this QB situation the best way we can with what we have. And I don't think there is any other QB available via trade or whatever that would be better than these guys.
If we can improve the run game from last year, our offense will be a lot better, even if the QB play doesn't improve.
Other than a blow to pride, I'm not sure why some fans continue to cling to the notion Manuel is OK.
I think it is because no one wants to admit that Cassel may be the starter. At least with a younger player, you can say there is .0001% chance he turns the corner. but with a 10 year vet, what you see is what you get. People are clinging to hope that there is some potential in the young QB so that our answer for QB is on the roster. But chances are we are going to be drafting a QB high in the draft next year and probably signing another vet somewhere in there as well.
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I guess it's important to create the culture of competition - but we all know not every position is up for the taking. I get confused why it's handled this way with certain players. I don't get why Glenn has to be named the starter for example.
Not every competition has to last very long. They probably saw enough to know they were the best for those positions and decided to keep them there.
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id rather have matt simms
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Kiko was only going to be a low cost guy for two years max. after that (possibly sooner) he will get a huge payday.
We are talking maybe 2 years worth of savings. which is nice, but if we dont have to pay top dollar for a QB, it really isn't that big of a deal. We aren't going to be able to keep all of our players, but I don't think the mccoy think really hurt us in the cap. The only thing it may have hurt is our ability to re-sign dareus, which I think will still get done but they might have to get a little more creative with it since it is going to be such a massive contract.
As for the other guys like glenn, gilmore, and so on, the cap keeps getting bigger. So our ability to re-sign guys gets easier. Our cap number this year wont be our cap number next year. I think the cap going up each year is why we re-signed hughes and publicly said we are going to keep dareus. Putting that much money on the dline makes more sense when the cap keeps going up, because the percentage of the cap going toward the dline goes down.
I am more worried about our QB and oline than I am about re-signing guys and mccoys contract
It's gotta be Roman who makes the QB call, right?
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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This. The final call should be made by HC, but he should yield to OC if the OC feels strongly about a guy.
naming a starting a QB is a big deal, and Rex should make the final call. But if Roman strongly pushes for a guy, Rex would be smart to trust Roman. But really, headcoach should be the one with final word