Dibs
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@ByTimGraham: Bills organization will remain unified when speaking publicly, but two sources tell me Doug Whaley went rogue in cutting Fred Jackson.
The only way that this makes sense is if at the meeting where they(Rex,Whaley,coaches,Pegs) decide on the cuts, Fred was not one of the cuts that they decided upon....but then went and cut him anyway. That is going rogue.
Alternatively, Whaley, with the big picture in mind, held firm in the meeting and despite perhaps strong debate from several others it was decided that Fred should be one of the cuts. That is not going rogue.
Sometimes I think that members of the media don't actually use inflamatory and incorrect language on purpose....instead they are simply too ignorant and stupid to know the difference.
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I guess, I tend to lump them as Top 5 Pick, 1st rounder, Rounds 2-4, Round 5+
After looking a fair bit at the numbers, I tend to have 4 categories. #1 overall, #2-#36, #37-rest of draft, and undrafted(which are really impossible to factor).
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Very true, the 2 current ones that come to mind are Brady and Romo. Odds are not great, but it has happened!
Romo wasn't drafted so he doesn't get factored in. There have been more successful undrafted QBs(Warner, Romo) than late round drafted ones(Brady) in the last few decades.
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Damn that thing is ugly.
Yeah. Who'd want one of those?
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There was a discussion on this over the offseason.......
- Franchise QBs are so hard to find....
- Unless you are an absolutely aweful team you dont get close to the most "talented" qbs in the draft
- If a team has a QB in this group they NEVER let them get away
- QBs that come into the league nowadays are simply not ready to be franchise QBs.....
So what do you do? How do you find one? Its not like there is a tree to go pick one off of.....you can have all the money in the world but you cant buy one if another NFL team wont let him get away
You do what the bills did.......they let Tyrod Taylor simmer on the Ravens stove as they slow cooked him......then when the time was right they picked him up.
Tyrod Taylor has been in the NFL staving off backup qb competiton on the ravens for FOUR YEARS......enough time to work on whatever deficiencies he had in college......enough time to let him go through 3 NFL training camps and preseason......3 seasons of running NFL scout teams......
Basically....on the job training.
Purely based upon draft history, if TT becomes a franchise caliber QB, the Bills will be extraordinarily lucky. It virtually never happens that a low round drafted QB becomes good....even with years of learning as a backup. Luckily "virtually never" is not "never" and TT has shown(IMO) that he has a very good chance to buck those odds.
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You lost me there. Only three people have ever said he HAS a higher than 50% chance. So everyone except three people on this whole website were in agreement with me. Hey I'll admit he looked fantastic against Pittsburgh and his odds have increased in my book. Still not 50% though. You?
I thought I was pretty clear. Virtually nobody has said that they think EJ has higher than a 50% chance to become a franchise QB. Therefore, if all you have said was that you thought that EJ has less than a 50% chance.....why are you constantly in arguments with people who feel the need to defend EJ(against you). You have obviously said more than just that simple 50% statement.
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All I have ever said (here we go again) is that I believe it is/was less than likely that EJ develops into a franchise QB....
If that were all you had said you wouldn't have gotten so many arguments as there would be less than a handful around here who ever believed that EJ had higher than a 50% chance to become a franchise QB.
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OK that's fair. Do you see what I'm saying though about a double standard round these parts? Bills fans are quick to mock and make up dopey nicknames for other QB's who have been in the league for a short period of time and haven't had their chance to develop, haven't had weapons at their disposal or exemplary coaching, yet will defend certain Bills QB's who I'm sure other teams' message boards mock just the same. Take Geno Smith and EJ Manuel for example. Just be objective is what I'm asking. But I do understand your point was ion regards to how good they might be right now vs. potential.
How is it that you can see that other young QBs around the league might not be garbage because of your above reasons(short time, need to develop, no weapons, bad coaching), but up until very recently you have assessed EJ to be garbage and rejected those very same reasons?
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Id have the same opinion in April, and have complained about moving on from tjax waaaaaay to early for that reason, but at final cuts you have to make moves that go beyond simply worst case scenario. we cant commit 5m to a guy as a just in case to a just in case. theres a reason that literally no other team in the league will have a $5m third stringer. its advocating buying a bomb shelter at expense of putting meals on the table. how many spare tires do you load up on before hitting the road for important destinations?
if he were firmly number 2, and who knows, maybe he is.... itd be a different discussion.
I think that those that believe EJ is most likely going to fail(and is still not as good as Cassel) will find this logic difficult to comes to terms with.
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pretty sure Belicheat is gonna sign him and he will annihilate us!!
I'm pretty sure the Pats will save around $4M from Brady being suspended so they could easily justify paying Cassel.
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I guess he could count keeping three including Simms if you count the PS.
He never definitively stated he would keep 3....just that it was looking highly likely(at that point). I imagine that when Rex said that he was not wanting to cut EJ as he could see potential in him.....and after EJ showed himself to be actually better than Cassel, there is no reason to keep the more expensive vet.
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I'd love to say go for it on 4th downs, but if we have Gay as a kicker or just one kicker, or the punter that can also kick - let him cut it?
I know its absolutely crazy. But, I don't want to think about Fred anymore because I am out of tissues and I don't want to think about EJ/Meh/Tyrod anymore because I am out of booze. So, I still have some crack and this seemed worth a thought.
But wouldn't it be more logical to simply keep the better FG kicker (Carpenter) and cut the KO specialist (Gay)?
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But what about actual FGs? Do we go on 4th or punt every time?
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Yes, I posted it earlier. I'm sure it got lost in the flurry:
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000518335/article/tyrod-taylor-named-bills-starting-qb
I find the description of his source a bit tortured:
"a source informed of the team's thinking"
That comment, "source informed of the team's thinking" was in regards to Rapoport. Either Rapoport also has a source, or his "source" is Glazer(and subsequently his source).
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I have no doubt Glazer is reporting what he has been told---and is confident in the source. What I'm saying (and apparently doing a poor job of) is that if the leak is coming from outside the Bills organization, it could be a mis-direct or poor lead. Now I don't expect that is what it is, given Glazer didn't say "probably" but reported it as a done deal. But I thought his description of his source was a bit odd.
Is there an article? I went to foxsports and all they had was the Glazer tweet....no mention at all about the source.
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Tyrod looked better and Tyrod should start.
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See, that sort of thinking makes perfect sense. (No sarcasm)
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What's your take on this? Did Rex/Roman authorize someone to leak the info (or leak it themselves) for PR purposes? Or do you think it is a true leak---agent, another coach, player? If the later, there is always the possibility Rex is playing whack-a-mole. Possibility, not probability.
I said upthread... I can't envision any team purposefully burning a legit member of the media in this manner by giving a false leak. IMO this is very most likely a legit leak which could have come from a myriad of sources.
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While I believe the report is true, it could be someone other than Rex leaking this. In fact, it most certainly isn't Rex, IMO, given the way Glazer describes his source. Again, I'm not suggesting it is a smokescreen, and Glazer wouldn't report it if he wasn't pretty sure his source was accurate.
I only meant that if it was a purposefully false leak that it would come from Rex(Bills Org.). As a true leak it could come from whomever.
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How much does cutting both impact our salary cap next year with the rollover?
$6.881+M
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I think it's saying that there are other factors than preseason games that go into the analysis of QB choice, for example performance during practice, especially the practices towards the end of training camp.
I unerstand that, but several people stated that they thought QB A was the better QB but thought QB B would start. This makes very little sense to me.
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If Glazer says it, its a lock.
I think this is true....he wouldn't have reported it without a solid source. Not even Rex would burn the media so badly as to purposefully leak the wrong information.
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I stand by that, if you are playing a high output offense like Brady, or the Eagles the way you beat them is to keep them off the field. You gobble up time, you get their defense on the field as break them down while keeping ours fresh. You don't get that trying because 1 out of three times you're able to connect on a deep throw.
That might be what you meant to say, but what you actually said was....
"...connecting on incredible deep balls is fantastic, but that means the defense comes right back out against the likes of Brady, Luck, Eli, Romo and Bradford (who we are all likely to play) to shred and wear down your D. I will take a 8 minute drive for only a field goal in the 1st quarter, because that means opposing D is worn down in the 4th, when it matters."
Without the addition of the "1 out of 3 times" concept, the statement is bad. I didn't mean to cause you angst, but I don't know you well enough to assume that your original statement wasn't precisely what you meant.
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Exactly, the $4.15m they would save can be rolled over to next year when they will undoubtedly be paying Marcel close to $20m per year.
To my mind it has to be a factor. If the Bills have determined that Cassel gives them a similar chance(or worse) to win games as the #2 QB does, then I can't see that the bean counters won't push for him being cut.
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OH SWEET BUTTERY CRAP, WILL YOU STOP TWISTING MY WORDS.
*deep breath*
I am not against the deep ball. I am against stalling out drives. As such, I support the QB who has done the best and most consistent drive management. Taylor has done so using the run game, his legs, and decent short to intermediate passes.
And there is NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT.
Deep strikes are great, but if that ability comes with QB play which occasionally takes the risky play, and you start seeing three and outs/turnover risks you have to balance the risk and reward. You aren't wasting talent if you don't constantly go deep. You are if you load up on stalled drives and leave your D hanging.
Edit: Regarding "longer drives which score fewer points had one caveat: Early in the game. Beating teams down early helps if you need to speed it up in the fourth.
I see by your "edit" that you realize that I wasn't twisting your words. The logic in your original post is still spurious though.
I have connections who have a neighbor who is inside OBD - always tight mouthed - but said the real issue is they really can only keep 2 of the three - they don't want/have space for 3 qb's out of the 53....
That's actually proper news. Those neighbors of your connections are not as tight mouthed as they might think they are.
Edit: now confirmed rumor that Bills will release Cassel
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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Yes, it does. As much as I can determine, the gameday payments that a player loses due to suspension come off of the team cap.
Josh Gordon as example only has a $564K cap number for the Browns in 2015.