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Scouts Inc.(ESPN) have him as a 3rd rounder.
Super sleeper maybe???
From scouts Inc....
Strengths: Is a late-bloomer with loads of upside. Has a good frame and great bulk. Is well built and powerful. Shows quick feet and is a good athlete for the position. He fires out quickly in the running game. Shows explosive initial power at the POA and can be absolutely dominating when he locks on in the phone booth. He runs well and shows the consistent ability to reach the second level on time. Is a better run blocker than pass protector at this point, but has upside and continues to improve in pass pro. Shows long arms, quick feet and powerful initial punch in pass pro. Gets set quickly and has the athleticism to play on an island if technique and awareness improve. He is a hard worker and versatile player. Will put the team ahead of his own personal achievement. Is very "coachable".Weaknesses: Durability is a minor issue, as he missed spring drills in 2004 after undergoing surgery on his left shoulder due to an injury sustained during the 2003 season. He is still a bit raw. Angles are still too inconsistent in the running game. Has limited experience at OG/OT. Needs to improve his awareness and technique in pass pro. He is inconsistent with his feet and hand placement. He doesn't always see the blitz or stunt coming in time. Needs to learn to play with more consistent leverage in order to avoid lunging as much as he does.
Overall: Spencer redshirted in 2001 and played defensive tackle in a reserve capacity in 12 games during each of his redshirt freshman (2002) and sophomore (2003) seasons, before moving over to the offensive side of the ball during the fall of 2004. Spencer moved to tackle as a senior in 2005 and earned his second consecutive All-Big East honor. He started his final 23 games on the offensive line after lettering at defensive tackle in 2002 and '03. Spencer is a former defensive tackle who thrived in his late transition to the offensive line. Spencer has great size, quick feet and impressive overall power. He still has room to improve in terms of his overall technique and awareness, but Spencer has all the physical tools necessary to eventually develop into an NFL starter either at OG or ROT. After Spencer impressed during the Senior Bowl and combine, he has emerged as a late Day 1 draft prospect in the 2006 class.
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Actually, just after he says
no substitute for scoutinghe says
there is a need for a system that could use college statistics to identify players who are more or less likely to become quality NFL starters.Analysis of college numbers has been a goal of Football Outsiders since its inception, and in the upcoming book Pro Football Prospectus 2006 it will become a reality for the first time.
he is clearly trying to 'sell'
& honestly, it was more that you took it all on board as fact about JP that got me.
In other words, after four more years of painfully watching Losman develop, we'll have ourselves Trent Dilfer. Assuming, of course, that Losman manages to do a better job of avoiding injuries than he's done so far. I wonder how Nall stacks up in this guy's system. -
A hundred years ago, people rode horses and read by candlelight. You get progress by people trying new things, and seeing which ones work. This guy's developed a system. Maybe it's a contribution to the world of player evaluation, and maybe it isn't. We'll know more in a few years, after the system's been given a chance to prove its worth. I don't understand your hostility toward a guy who's simply trying to do his part to make football evaluation better.
I have read the full article & the concept of his system seems ridiculous.
From all I've ever heard on the development of QBs, a lot of emphasis is placed on the pro system/ the speed increase of NFL/ maturity development of leadership/ etc etc.
Basically there are a lot of factors which cannot be quantified in numerical statistics(or barely at most). To come out with a statistical theory predicting that accurately how someone will develop is..as I said...rediculous.
If the article had said this new statistical analysis can help determine blah blah blah, I would not have a problem with it but to say JP is going to be a little better than one but notquite as good as another is...open to ridicule.
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Thanks God that guy has come up with the 'system'. Now we never need pay a scout again to assess QBs. Oh happy day. I wonder if it will work on high schoolers too. We could draft directly from there & cut out all that pesky development stuff.
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Marv and dick are not sold on the QB's we have?
Didn't they just bring in Nall, a guy they keep praising for being talented and could compete for the starting job?
I think they believe we have good QB's, they just don't know which ones better
And we are not going to find a Pro Bowl Qb drafting one in the first round this year with the lines we have now.
But if I was a fan of a team interested in getting a QB in the first round, my list would be Lienart, Cutler, then Young.
Your point on Nall backs up the possibility they will look in the draft. If Nall & JP havn't got it...like I said, a Pro bowl Qb is needed.
The lines we have now are not the lines we will have in 2 years.
Honestly, I don't see them as disasterous as most do...1 DT make the D-line respectable & 1 OT (& some luck) for the O-line.
I know this comment will draw the ire of a lot but that's how I see it.
Again, I'm not saying I think we will draft a QB at #8, I'm saying that if those conditions are in fact facts, I can see it is a possibility
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It's starting to look like two of the "Big Three" will be gone by the 6th pick. If Denver trades up it will be for a quarterback not as Tight End..
Which they'll probably deal those first rounders to jump ahead of Oakland. Using San Fran's pick to take Cutler. I think we're screwed in terms of trading down because all of the QB's will be off the board.
If all the QBs are off the board....
Bush, Ferguson & Williams will be gone & the 9ers will leave us with either Hawk or Davis or we trade down.
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I'm starting to think it is a good possibility we do take a QB at #8.
If we take it as a given that very few teams win the Super bowl without a Pro bowl QB....
& Marv & Dick are not sold on the QBs we have....
& Marv intends on building this team within 3/4 years to be a contender(both he & RW are old in case you didn't know)...
If we don't find a Franchise QB very soon...???....other positions take a lot less time to develop(usually).
Given all that, I still don't expect them to draft one myself but I can see a logic if they do.
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Your point is an example of what I meant by
...emotionally very difficult to get past is the BIG names...It all comes down to percentages. The earlier the pick, the more likely he will become a Pro bowl player. I won't bother researching bust names from high in previous drafts nor boom names from lower down....we all know this occurs, it's the frequency in which it occurs that is the issue.
The 'Trade Value Chart' attempts to match the odds of getting a Pro bowl player at each pick by putting a numeric value to the pick. In a deep draft such as this, those numbers lower into the second & third rounds should be higher since the odds for a Pro bowler is assumed to be increased. Same with the top 8 if there are higher than average studs(which there are in this draft).
Simply, I don't think we should throw away a potential handful of solid/Pro players for one potential Pro/solid player if the opportunity is there.
It all comes down to percentages.
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Um, am I too much a dummy to ask what SNL is?
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Huh?
The schedule is determined by a formula...it is predetermined & can't be modified by the NFL.
Shhhh, don't tell anyone but the Seahaks lost SBXL because they were not the best team.
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AAARRRGGGHHH....
For the 1pm games, I have to get up at 3am to listen on the net. (5am daylight savings time)
I guess Bills fans are nuts.
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Unless the Saints stuff it up or get an offer they can't refuse(trade out of top 4) I think your assumtion is a near certainty.
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Its honestly the price we'd have to pay. You're right, we'd lose out on the guys you see most mentioned as possible Bills selections, but there are still plenty of options in the middle of Round One to improve this team.
For OT, guys like Eric Winston and Marcus McNeil will still be on the board.
For DT, Gabe Watson and Claude Wroten
For Safety, Jason Allen, Donte Whitner, Daniel Bullocks, and Darnell Bing would all be there.
And for TE, Marcedes Lewis and Leonard Pope would still be around.
If we end up trading down, we miss out on an elite talent, but in this deep draft we'd get two very strong players in return. We are lucky that this draft is deep in the areas we need it, so trading down to stockpile picks and really boost the lines sounds like a good idea to me.
Um, yeah...what he said
-typing as you posted-- I totally agree
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I like the idea of extra picks but moving down to 17 may not be a great idea?
If we stay at 8 we have a shot at players can start for us right now DT (Ngata or Bunkley), OT (Justice), SS (Huff), TE (Davis). We could (not saying should) grab the top CB or the top OG in the draft too.
Who are the possible players to take at 17 that could make an impact at DT or OT?
My initial raction is to agree with you. What is emotionally very difficult to get past is the BIG names at the top of the draft...I mean, who doesn't want one of them over the next lot of (lesser) names.
Surely however, it would come down to how much compensation we get for the trade down. It's a deep draft...could we pass up their #1,#2 & #3....what about their #1, #2 & #4?
In the end, what does it matter if we get a rookie who can play right now or one who takes a year to develop? Who hear thinks an impact rookie will be the diffence between a loosing team & a playoff team?
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Hmmm, is 'VIVE LA FRANCE, VIVE LA GUERRE' even French. He is certainly not in France(his user time is West coast U.S.A.) & his use of the English language though extraordinarily verbose seems un-French. No froggy would lower himself by using so many Anglican words when he could use a lot less....he would soil his tongue.
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Not necessarily....I read this in the latest Scouts Inc. Mock Draft(today)
"...unlike the Titans, the Jets are rumored to value QB Jay Cutler (Vanderbilt) over Young. They don't want to take Cutler this high, but they would consider it strongly if Bush, Leinart and Ferguson are gone by the fourth pick. "
Mind you, what are the odds that Super Mario drops to #5?
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I'm betting Leinart goes at No.2
Either the Jets trade up to get him(or a lower team...maybe?) or the Titans move up one to guarantee it.
Certainly not set in stone in my mind.
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Roscoe is gonna be great...a tonne more 'roids & he'll beef up just fine.
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I don't believe it. Until it's reported on mass in the media I view it as rubbish. If all we get is a 5th then good WRs must be far more common than I thought. I agree with that other post saying that this trade has been very secretive....let's wait & see.
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No. Chiefs do pick 20 but that is their true draft order pick. Must be a typo.
1st round:
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Gone by #5:-
Bush
Leinhart
Williams
D'Brick
It's all guessing but I would think most would be surprised if this were not the case.
From all reports, these four are a cut above the rest.
But hey, the draft has surprises every year.
Bills bring in Michael Huff for private workout
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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There must be much more workouts (unconfirmed)....just look at GB, OAK, HOU, SF, etc etc....
I don't know too much about all this. Will there be a lot more workouts over the next few weeks?
If yes then this list will be far more beneficial then.