McD
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Top 3 pick, 10 picks total, pretty good cap space... Next year looks much better than this year. Ugh...
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When the Bills are in Nashville ALL of the bars there are Bills bars, lol!
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On 5/26/2018 at 8:26 PM, YoloinOhio said:
I was born a Celtics fan because my dad became one when the Braves moved and the owner swapped teams with the Celtics.
Sad that it took me to get to page 3 to see a post with the exact same reason why I’m a Celtics fan. Too many Buffalo fans forgot (or never knew) that the Buffalo Braves and Boston Celtics swapped franchises before the Braves went out to San Diego.
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4 minutes ago, Ramza86 said:
Have you watched Allens film? Hes got way more anticipation than Tyrod. Tyrod was scared to throw in traffic. Allen is not.
Yes, I've seen him throw. I wouldn't say he's got way more anticipation that Tyrod. Oh, and he'll throw alright, but that will lead to INT's. We've already got a guy on the team that can do that.
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Not happy with the pick. He's got too many issues that we hope "can" be fixed. We also have a ton of holes to fill and gave up too much to land Allen. We needed to rebuild the OL, get a LB or 2, and get a WR desperately. Yeah , we "needed" a QB, but we flinched.... we freaking flinched. I've said this all along... be patient, just be patient and let the draft come to us. Nope... we couldn't do so, and now I'm already hoping we go 2-14 so we have the #1 next year and do something smart like trade out of that and grab the talent that we needed to grab this year. We were all pissed at Tyrod's accuracy issues and lack of anticipation, and what do we do? We draft a kid with less experience that has the SAME damned issues! Next I'll hear all about his damned high "ceiling"... I have a high ceiling in my living room. Ugh.......
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Nice story... the kid has the size for the position, but its hard to get a feel for him with such little film. One thing I noticed was that he seems to throw to the first option almost every time. Also, his ball seems like it lacks polish, but he seems to have a strong enough arm. He'd be a fun project.
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9 minutes ago, Dr. Who said:
Alright, let me rephrase. The last draft folks talk about as being rich with multiple qbs (and of course only some worked out) was 1983. That's 35 years ago. It is rare to have a draft with 4 or more qbs that might be considered for the first round. A normal draft has 1 or 2 or actually zero. We have the draft capital this year, not next year, etc.
Fair enough, but I'd also be cautious in the hype generated by the media over QB's... the position IS important, the most important on the field, but again I ask if the hype generated is making this years draft class more prolific than it actually is? Then we "feel" that we "have" to get a QB and we pass up the opportunity to fill numerous roster spots with higher end draft picks. One good thing is the cap space looks better for us the next few years, so who knows what the plan is.
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1 minute ago, Dr. Who said:
Fine, you can wait another 25 years and hope when the perfect qb appears you have the first overall pick, because folks don't trade that player away. Rare to have a draft with multiple potential franchise qbs and we set ourselves up for it by acquiring draft capital.
25 years, lol... ok. Hell, you all are SO dead set on us sucking next year with AJ that we're probably gonna be in prime position to draft in the top 10 next year. At least if we did that we might actually have an OL and WR's for him because we got them all this year.
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1 hour ago, EasternOHBillsFan said:
In what universe does Mayfield slip down to #12?
Also, have you noticed that drafting middle to low round QBs HAS FAILED MISERABLY for us over the last 2 decades?!?!!
NO. NO MORE. You TRADE UP and get the guy. ENOUGH of this middling BS.
Who is THE guy? Is there one, or are we just going to be fixated at a position because we just HAVE to take one? If there's a GUARANTEE that any one of those QB's are the savior, a generational type player, then cool... I'm in. But, I've not read ANYTHING that says this QB class is that talented. Starters yes... a few Pro Bowls... perhaps. But worthy of 3 #1's+? I'm not sold.
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Let it play our on Draft Day... sit tight Beane, let the loose cannons lose their heads!!!!
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20 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said:
So who could benefit from the Giants’ flexibility at No. 2?
There are several teams that could move up in the draft to target a top-tier quarterback. The Jets just paid handsomely to move to No. 3, but a second swap to move up one more spot would ensure, at worst, they get their second choice of quarterbacks. Unfortunately for New York’s other team, they’ve got a limited amount of draft capital left after dealing with the Colts and have several roster holes to fill. Another move may not be worth the cost.
Buffalo, on the other hand, has more urgency to make a deal and better assets with which to do it. The Bills, in one final act of spite, shipped former Pro Bowl quarterback Tyrod Taylor to Cleveland for a third-round pick earlier this offseason. That leaves their offense in the hands of Nathan Peterman — best known for his 5-of-14 performance in a midseason start against the Chargers (the five, in this case, stands for passes thrown to Los Angeles defenders) — and AJ McCarron, so lightly regarded as a quarterback he got a two-year, $10 million deal with Buffalo one season after creaking plaster sculpture Mike Glennon signed a three-year, $48 million pact with the Bears.
That pairing might work out, but it’s much more likely it will not. Fortunately, last year’s Patrick Mahomes deal with Kansas City gives Buffalo the 22nd pick in this year’s draft, and the team was able to upgrade from 21st to 12th by trading tackle Cordy Glenn to the Bengals. That gives the Bills two 2018 first-rounders they can ship to the Giants, along with two second- and two third-round picks to sweeten the pot. If New York wants to add a lot of young talent quickly, Buffalo is its best option.
6 high picks?!?!?!?! HELL NO!!!!!!!! I've dealt with losing... it sucks, but one more year of if won't kill me! Give me all those picks to fill holes. Let AJ do his thing, go 5-11 and be in position to grab a QB next year if need be. This **** is getting ridiculous!
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1 minute ago, T-Bomb said:
Additions don't mean shite without a QB.
We have a QB.
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6 minutes ago, thebandit27 said:
I've asked this a few times, but haven't really gotten a response from anyone else, so I'll ask you...
This franchise has been in existence for almost 60 years, and has never used it's first draft slot to select a QB. If now is not the time to be aggressive, then when?
EJ Manual was taken with the Bills first pick in the '13 Draft. I'm all about being aggressive, but do you throw away an entire Draft in the "hopes" that a guy can be the one? I'm not overly excited about ANY of these QB's but everyone is going crazy about grabbing one. Is it a need? Yep a big one. Would I like to get one with our first pick? Sure. Do I want to have a shiny new toy with nobody for him to throw the ball to? With a 30 yr old RB and an O-Line that needs help and depth. Does he sit on the sideline while our porous D can't stop the run and has a hard time getting to the QB and can't cover a TE? I mean a good young QB could be put into a HORRIBLE situation and be damaged forever if not in a good system/position.
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3 minutes ago, thebandit27 said:
1999 was the last time QBs went 1-2-3; Couch-McNabb-A. Smith
And of those 3 only McNabb was worthy.
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If the Bills do this... the 3-13 G-Men will be back in the Playoffs before we are. We can't go freaking crazy because the Jets did. We have the ammo for some damned good additions on both sides of the ball, with youth and depth. I know we need a QB, but damn.
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25 minutes ago, Jamie Muellers Ghost said:
How is that worked out for the last 20 years for us?
We had our chances but people wanted to go to a useless wildcard game. We had more chances and got out flanked by a smarter GM.
Now you have two chances left but you'll have to give away the store to get to them.
Oh brother...
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4 hours ago, thebandit27 said:
As far as the final 53-man roster goes, I see 12 spots that need to be filled by players not currently under contract:
QB1
WR2
WR5 (assuming one of Reilly or Streater wins the WR6 job)
RG competition
RT competition
C2
DT3
Mike LB
Sam LB2
Slot CB1
Boundary CB3
S4
They've got a lot of work left to do.
They do, and McBeane did a good job in a full year now clearing excess cap weight. This won't be a one year change, but it's not a rebuild either. We can make some good moves this year and then again next. We'll be in good shape IF the process is working.
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3 hours ago, nucci said:
also, that team was coming off two consecutive 2-14 seasons . 4-12 was an improvement....going from 9-7 playoff berth to 4-12 would be a huge step backward
Point taken, and while that's true, I don't foresee us going 4-12. I would think a 9-7 WC team slipping to 6-10 would be an appropriate comparison. I agree with McDermott... we could have easily been 7-9 this past year, but we don't have the depth needed at many positions and as much as I want to love Tyrod, he's not going to win games all on his own like Rodgers, Brady, Brees, etc... So, move up and grab your (potential) QB of the future or stay and grab the depth...? From what we've heard, I can see us going in either direction.
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6 minutes ago, K-GunJimKelly12 said:
I can see this team going anywhere from 6-10 to 11-5 next season.
I agree... tough schedule, but can/will the process overcome that?
Will a trade up for a Baker Mayfield type move us faster to where we want to be, or does staying put and grabbing some help at DT, OL, WR or LB with all of our picks do us better?
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30 minutes ago, nucci said:
and Kelly was an established Pro at the time...not a rookie QB....but point taken
5 minutes ago, K-GunJimKelly12 said:I see a lot of comparisons to players that played 20-30 years ago on this board. There was a guy in one of the college QB threads that brought up Jim Kelly's college completion percentage to compare them to I believe Lamar Jackson.
Jim Kelly played college ball in the early 80's, it is similar to comparing hockey stats from players today, with players in the 70's and 80's. The game is completely different now and bringing up a certain player's stats from 30 years ago, to compare to a player today, really tells you absolutely nothing. For example, if you have a great QB today, say Aaron Rodgers, and he is healthy for a full season, the chances of that team making the playoffs is probably 95% no matter what the rest of the roster is. Say Rodgers had a pre-season, season ending injury before the 2017 season started. The Packers would have likely been a 2-5 win team. Where as a healthy Rodgers makes them an instant Super Bowl contender. If Aaron Rodgers was a QB in 1986, was healthy all season and had a similar level of talent around him as he does now, the Packers would be in the bottom half of the league.
The game was so different 30 years ago, and for people who are too young to remember or didn't watch a lot of football back then, it was so, so, so much more defensive. The stuff defenses were able to get away with would blow young football fans minds. When people are bringing up "Kelly was a 56% passer in college" and talking about the Bills record in 1986, it is much more of a reflection on the overall team and the way the game was played than it is on the player.
I didn't try to compare stats to this.... no yardage, completion %, TD's to INT's... I was comparing records... a 4-12 team 30 years ago most likely had the same issues/struggles as a 4-12 team in this era. We were discussing whether you'd be ok with a 4-12 record with an up and coming QB. Some people see that as a bad thing, or a step back... my point was that a young up and coming QB could be the answer sooner than later, and used Jimbo and the '86 Bills as a reference.
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4 hours ago, RalphWilson'sNewWar said:
If we were 4-12 but that Rookie was playing at a high rookie level.
1986 Bills were 4-12 in Jim Kelly's *Rookie year. AFC Championship game 2 years later.... just sayin'.
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Awesome! That's how you get 'em young and oblivious!
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Out of stock of almost everything, lol. You'd think being a hometown company they should have known to have made a ton more!
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It just passed $10K! Halfway to their goal!
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Bills vs. Ravens: 1st Half Game Day Thread
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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Lol... well time to do something productive with my day.