Steven in MD
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You make it seem as there has never been an NFL game that was rigged.
I understand that was the 60's and this is now...but with greed at an all time high, is it entire impossible to think it could not have happened again?
I'm sorry, based on the refs in the Stealers/Seahawks game...I will never ben 100% convinced that the game was clean...I will always have my suspicions.
Thank you Donte....it was last years Super Bowl that got me on a late night surf of the internet.
The lines in Vegas are set by the money bet on each side. Vegas does not care who wins, they always make money. I define the underdog as the team that is getting points at the time of kick-off.
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Is the league in cahoots with the bookies when they make these decisions on who is going to win/market or no?
Cut it out already Kelly...
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Maybe on your planet. I knew the Chargers were one and done about 3/4 of the way through the NE/NYJ game the week before.
The line was Chargers -4.5 or you can say Pats +4.5 that makes them the underdog.
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Gee, is there realy a blog that can cure my terminal naivete?
The internet truly is a wonderous place!
A professional sports league marketing marquee players? A concept so novel it could only be a conspiracy theory!
So far this postseason the only underdog I have seen win was Seattle over Dallas. Obviously the NFL sees the upside in pushing the Seattle market over the tiny Cowboys fanbase.
I never said it was the best source for my theory...but it was plausible to me.
When Naimith did those commericals in the 70's and 80's there was tremendous backlash from the NFL. They did not mind players doing endorsements in their local markets, but not on a national level.
The Pats were underdogs yesterday.....
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Yes, the rest of us small-minded marks can only admire your superior intellect and the unique wisdom with which only you have been blessed.
Simon, I wish I could take credit for it...but I too was naive. I read an excellent blog that chronicled professional sports from 1960-2005. The author gave about 20 or so examples of how sports in America evolved. The one that stuck in my mind was the evolution of the NFL from the merger of the AFL and NFL. I wish I could remember the statistics about how strong the correlation was between market size and appearances on MNF in the 70's and 80's and how it changed in the 90's. In the 90's the MNF schedule was based on winning percentages the year prior and not market size (makes sense to me). Unfortunately MNF ratings went down. They changed the booth personnel to no avail. He asserts, and I just happen to agree, that in the late 90's the NFL decided to market the marque players (not the best players) to sell it to the masses. I know it sounds like a conspiracy theory, and maybe it is..but when you see underdogs winning a high percentage of the games, you have to wonder what is going on.
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Big Ben and Bill Cowhers are pretty boys, very handsome men, and the NFL wanted them to be the face of the league.
Your forgot Jerome Bettis...
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this is the funniest sh-- I have read in a while...so your main case is the Steelers last year...did the NFL have a hand in the Palmer injury? Did they try to cover their tracks there by basically giving Indy EVERY call in the Pit/Indy game last year, including the worst call ever(Pollawallmalla INT that was reversed), and Bettis fumbling on the 1.....really keep this sh-- coming..I am very entertained by it at work today....
I will admit I am wrong if the Saints do not win the SB....I will stop this because it is clear that nobody here looks at the bigger pitcure of the game.
The SB in 2001 is the year I give the Pats credit.
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I must be some kind of neanderfuk. I still don't understand. How exactly is the NFL ensuring these outcomes via the Refs and other officials without fixing the games?
How to best explain this..... The refs are told to "ensure" that the marque players are not injured. They protect players such as Brady. So when the OL holds the player in order to minimize the potential for injury, the do not throw the flag. When you give a QB enough time to throw the ball, he has a higher probability for success. Other players get the same treatement. If Reggie Bush was in the league another 4-5 yrs, that hit on him would have yielded a fine at the least.
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Okay, just for laughs, answer me this question:
1] How is it possible that most every year, when the NFL has to pay out millions and millions to the players and referees to throw the games so the right teams and players win, how come not one story has ever come out about it? Not even one unsubstantiated rumor. Not one guy ever, when he was drunk, or cut, was going to spill the beans? Or one player or coach that had to lose so another player or coach could win and be the face of the league ever complained "How come HE gets to win?! I wanna win! How come I always have to lose?!!"
THE PLAYERS and COACHES are not fixing games. I am not saying the games are fixed...I am saying the NFL is marketing via the referees and other officials. I expect a tell all book to come out on this subject just like Jose Canseco wrote it on steriod use.
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Arron Sears has a good deal of experience against top competition, having started the past three years on the offensive line for Tennessee in the SEC. He is a very versatile player routinely switches positions and has started at every position along the offensive line except center. He has a good combination of size and strength for an offensive lineman. He has good athleticism for a player his size. He has proven to be a great run blocker who can be dominating at times. He does have the ability to get to the second level in the running game. He displays good technique on running downs. He lacks great agility and will have problems against speed rushers coming off the edge. He needs to improve his technique in pass protection to become a more complete offensive lineman. He has had some minor ankle injuries in college which have caused him to miss a few games, but nothing serious. Arron Sears is a versatile player who could project as a guard or right tackle at the next level. He has been bounced around the offensive line quite a bit and hasn't had a chance to settle in and master any one position. Though he could play right tackle, I believe Sears would make a better guard in the NFL. He has a chance to be a first day pick in the 2007 NFL draft.
I stand corrected...he is a guard too.
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when I thought that your posts could not contain any more nonsense..you pull off the hat trick...are you really this dumb or are you just trying to push some buttons today? Please tell me it is the 2nd and I will applaud you for a job well done
I guess I am just dumb.....oh well better give back those college degrees.
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baseball killed itself by allowing competitive inequity to occur the small and large markets.
the nfl creatred a set of rules (slary cap) that leveled the playing field.
that's a lot different from micromanaging the games themselves.
I learned it was called marketing. The NFL figure out how to market its players to the masses. It found players like Montana, Marino, Elway, Kelly, Namath, Brady, Manning (notice QBs) and brought them to the main stream America. Once you bring these guys to the main stream America, they have to win otherwise people will not buy the products they endorse. That is the story....I guess I am a group of 1 that see the NFL as a marketing entity and not a sports league.
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as popular as the nfl is...with the microscope these guys are under...with 1,000,001 uncontrollable variables going down on each and every play that could conceivably affect the outcome?
you really think the nfl would kill the golden goose by pissing around with outcomes of games when it has so may rabid fans and makes millions and billions of dollars each year no matter WHO is in the playoffs?
if the 12 smallest markets in the league made it to the playoffs every year, and 2 smallest played for the title, they would still make obscene amounts of money. there is no need to mess with that.
every once in awhile a post comes along that is so non-sensical that it reminds me i really need to get back to work...thanks.
Jester...help me here...how exactly did the NFL surplant MLB as the #1 sport in the USA?
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You're right. All this time I thought it was fair competition. I think I'll stick to watching cricket where there is clearly no bias from the league owners.
That was your first mistake
Does anyone think that Pittsburgh won the SB last year? I keep going back to how the Seahawks were hosed in the SB last year and it made me realize that this NFL is a joke as a sports league...but it is a great entertainment value.
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Ummm........because Peters has played well as a LT in the nfl and Pennington is 6,7 which is really tall for a guard - where Sears is 6,4 which is short for OT and good for guard.
Sears is a natural LT...where Peters is a converted TE...I would take Sears here.
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What exactly did New Orleans get as a favor to prove that the games were fixed?
I think you are missing the point. Did anyone here think that New Orleans had a shot at the playoffs when the season started? Did anyone here think if they made the playoffs they would be a #2 seed? The NFL is showing it compassion to the people of New Orleans....that is the story line.
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cmon. please tell me you're joking.
WATCH the football games folks....there is no way that you can watch and not know that the games are fixed. It is like WWE. The outcome is known before...the entertainment is how we get there. When New Orleans wins the Super Bowl this season...ask yourself why. Just like I asked myself how PIttsburgh won last season!
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Yeah, you're right. The NFL should parade around losers as the face of the league. The NFL is "marketing" whoever wins. Actually, I would have to believe that the NFL would prefer to have Peyton Manning and Tony Dungy win than the Patriots. But they, um, have to win first.
Kelly I think you got it backwards. The NFL first selects who to market, then has them win. They do not choose winners, they make them winners.
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Why is this? When reading articles on next week AFC title between Colts and Pats, the bias is quite obvious. The Pats are described as thorns in the side of Manning and Colts. Seemingly based on 4 year old contests between the teams. It is never mentioned that the Colts won the last two meetings,rather easily and in Foxboro to boot. The Pats get too much credit for what they did 3 and 4 years ago, when they were a better team than today. Many of those players are gone. Yet the patriot love fest goes on. Hopefully the classy Manning, Dungy, Harrison and Bill Polian get the calls this week. They should win the game vs Pats, but if the NFL wants its good publicity machine to keep rolling with a team called Patriots while the nation is in a questionable war... we can expect more of the same. The Pats can hold pass rushers and receivers with a wink and a nod to the refs, while questionable calls keep their failed offensive drives alive with uncanny frequency. I don't think the classy Colts players can be "baited" into personal fouls as easily as SD, but I smell a rat here.
Ahh...but the beauty is that the Pats are the 3 point underdog, and I expect they will end up being a 4.5 point underdog by game day. Follow the money!
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If we can draft Sears we can move Peters back to RT and let Pennington fight for the guard position. Why move a natural LT to guard?
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The funny thing is that they did not do the same for Mularkey!
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Like Merriman?
I am not condoning Merriman...though during the game I leave it to the refs to control. Being a classless Patriot after the game (ala Bill Belichek not shaking Mangini's hand after the lose during the season) is just unacceptable for a team that the NFL wants as their face. It is a sham to the fans that the NFL has chosen the Patriots to be the face of the league.
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With LT on this one 100%. The Pats showed the classless attitude that as LT says...starts at the HC. The Pats are the most classless team in the NFL. Like Marv said. "Act like you have been there before!"
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On busted-up screens, you can throw at the receiver's feet, even if he's behind the LOS.
There was no eligible receiver within 10 yds...
There's no rule against getting pushed into another player, and there shouldn't be one, since its out of the player's control.
The CB from SD head-butted the Pats player.
He was pushed...but instead of running into him (or being pushed into him)...he went for the head and that is a flag.
NE OL gave up only 17 sacks the entire regular Season
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The offensive hold is an excellent prevention to sacks!