Carmel Corn

Browns have taken the sail's out of the Steeler's wind

Steelers should have just jumped on the ball vs. trying to pick it up.

Agree, would add that our linebackers need to be sure tacklers as well.....not our strong suit.

The Bills could have lost the game if it weren't for the efforts of the 2021 Josh Allen. We would have certainly lost if we only had the 2019/2020 version of him. My expectation is that our defense cannot be expected to win us any games, but at best only keep us from losing them. The Colts are a really good team and if they still had Andrew Luck, we would have lost. This defense may get us past a Pittsburgh match-up, but I see no hope of them stopping a Kansas City offense.

Perhaps...but I'd like to see Frazier get better next week even more.

Irsay, Ballard and Reich now holding a presser.

Wants to break the cycle of injury, rehab, etc. Has lost his joy for the game. Cannot pour his heart and soul into the game any longer. Thanked the team ownership, management, etc.

Luck addressing the press now.

I think there is a lot of truth to this. I am for some reason reminded of Barry Sanders retiring 20 years (?) ago....great talent calling it quits surprisingly early.

My comment was in response to the poster saying that Indy not being a football city and deserving an NFL team.

I live in the Indy metro area. Your comment about the city is BS. Buffalo (Sabres) can write a book about rolling over and tanking!

Spoiled self-righteous brats who can think the rest of us really give a rat's behind about their so-called values. They should be thankful to be in the USA because they are millionaires playing a game vs. rotting away in a less privileged country. Good for the Prez for telling them they are not that important. It's about the message and too many of you focus solely on the messenger that you are completely blind to the point. It's really a shame that so many of you are critical of being a patriot and loving our country, like it's a disease or something. Pathetic.

I also doubt he would have been there. Between AZ and Miami, they would have grabbed both Josh's before 12. Most Miami fans doubt that Tannehill can take them to a championship.

Are you kidding me? Did you notice he could not hit the broadside of a barn against Jacksonville?

Yeah right...FUN is not how it looks to me. Maybe somebody should check to see if there are any statistics on how many people in Buffalo last night: - Threw-up - Suffered a heart attack - Kicked their dog - Destroyed their televisions - Beat their wives - Hung themselves - Etc. It's amazing how many people say "this org. has set us back X years", when they actually had some success in just one, yet the fan base immediately wants to stone them to death. Unbelievable. People on this board would not have been happy if Jesus himself was our draft pick. There is no FUN left in Buffalo!

Simply crap!

What a bunch of crap. Rosen would have not lasted to 12. Our other pick would have not lasted either. Arizona may have still pulled off the same trade to get one of the QB's and Miami the other.

Two concussions behind this offensive line is rolling the dice. He's not exactly built like a tank either. Agree with OP, he'll get thumped and miss time.

Geez, the overall reaction on this board is depressing and ridiculous. Those who don't like the Allen pick obviously know much more about football than our front office and should have been in the war room instead. There was nothing we could do within reason to get Mayfield or Darnold, so it boils down to all of you being pissed about not getting Josh Rosen. Rosen is a good prospect, no doubt but given the status of our o-line, he may get hit again and again. Two concussions in one season is a big red "flag" concerning his durability. Believe what you want about his personality, but I wonder about how coachable he is. Not convinced he is a better long-term option for the Bills. I like Allen's size and abilities. He may take longer to develop, but you all need to give him, our GM and coaching staff a chance to show they know more than us fans.

Kay Stephenson, Hank Bullough, Gregg Williams, Mike Mularkey, Doug Marrone......the Bills have a great track record of picking 1st time head coaches. That being said, our record for picking experienced coaches isn't any better since Wade.

I've lived in Indy a long time, but still love the Bills from back in my Buffalo year when Kelly faced Marino. Manning has played on a team built for getting out of the gate fast with a well-coached and fairly well-stocked list of weapons to choose from. Both high draft picks (ex. James, Clark, Wayne, etc.) and lesser draft picks (ex. Collie, Garcon, etc.) have been good contributors. Yes some questionable ones too....Addai, Gonzalez. You could also perhaps question Polians committment to defense and special teams (coverage mainly). The defense was built to play with a lead and to play a system. They were small and fast, not bruisers. I remember a lot of people (including here) saying Polian was nuts for drafting Dwight Freeney as high as he did and based their opinion solely on how Bryant McKinney supposedly handled him in a bowl game (while we selected Mike "bust" Williams). My point is that Polian fielded strongly competitive teams until this year. I wish the Colts would have kept him. As far as Manning vs. Marino...IMHO Manning is a better field general/manager whereas Marino was the better pure passer. Both had lightning quick releases....maybe a very slight edge to Marino there. Yes Manning only won 1 SB but the one they lost to New Orleans was more of a defensive failure vs. an offensive one. If I had to pick which one I'd want on my team, I would still have to favor Manning.

Living in the Indy area...you can see this eventually building over time. 1. QB - already discussed...no quality replacement on the roster in the event the franchise quarterback went down. Earlier in the year, Irsay tweeted about going to visit Favre....wish he actually did. 2. O-line - definitely a problem right now. Part of it is through loss of starters to other teams, but I think a BIG factor is the loss of Howard Mudd as coach. The Indy line was pretty lousy last year too after Mudd retired. The darn Eagles actually brought Mudd out of retirement this year. 3. No running game. James Addai has not been very effective and has been often hurt. No quality depth behind him. 4. Offensive coach - although Tom Moore is still on the roster, he is not the offensive coordinator. That job belongs to Clyde Christensen (who???) 5. Linebackers - a glaring weakness for multiple seasons. Gary Brackett is not a superstar, but is the best they have...and is hurt Sure the injury bug is seemingly worse in other positions, but IMHO I am sorry to say that much of this collapse is self-inflicted.

I thought Willams and Dockery played effectively next to each other when they were Longhorns. Who knows....seems like a good gamble by the Skins to me.

Yes, it is not just a local Buffalo television market problem. LIN also owns WISH-TV in Indianapolis. Same issue for cable customers here. http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/arti...D=2008810030480 Glad I have a dish!

I don't think either team is going anywhere for a long time, but I completely agree with your winning statement. I've lived here nearly 20 years and feel that over time Indy has made some progress in moving away from being just a basketball town. The Pacers are actually lagging in attendance, due primarily to lousy teams and pubic disdain for several of the players who act more like criminals than professional athletes. That being said, there is no doubt it is still a strong collegiate sports town....having the NCAA headquartered here helps to maintain that amateur sports focus. As far as the stadium itself, no doubt it has that new car smell appeal....but if you get a chance to see it with you own eyes, it really is spectacular! Having lived in both places, I still believe that it is hard to match how much the Bills are part of the fabric of the WNY community. As much as Indy has going for it, it will never reach the same degree of following or spirit as the Bills & Buffalo. The best way I can put it is that I've never stopped being a Bills fan, even 20 years later. I like the Colts, but I LOVE the Bills.