[Willis is #1]

The point was not to compare Willis to MW as a blocker, but to compare the treatment various players get from this board when they screw up.  I guess I've just read one too many "JP's turnovers cost us the game" posts that imply that we should excuse a RB -- and our supposed 'star' -- for not being able to carry out his blocking assignments, or that his blocking failure was not a direct cause of the fumble/TD.

 

Look, I'm not expecting him to pancake the guy, but WTF -- how hard is it to get in his way and slow him down from a full sprint?

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Great post.

 

Also, to the guy who said Willis had huge holes to run through, he did.

 

You still have to give him credit for gaining yards, even if the holes were there.

 

Willis on third and long is a failure, at this point.

 

He is not a good receiver, and I'm not going to get into the pass blocking.

 

I hope Willis pans out in Buffalo, but won't be hurt if he's gone. He is not a star in this league, and not close to being a great player. (yet)

 

It is also ironic, some of Willis's biggest nuthuggers , are the same people that pick JP apart.

 

Even though running back is a much easier position to master, and there are cases where guys are great before their mental ability catches up with their physical ability. (same can't be said for QB)

 

I personally think this is the first season Willis is completely healthy, and will go a long way in determining what kind of player he's gonna be. He has shown flashes of brilliance, and moments of idiotic behavior on the field, much like a young QB we have.

 

It wouldn't be fair of me, or anybody, to defend JP and throw Willis under the bus. I think they both will be just fine, but Willis has the ability to be a superstar.

[A little comfort]

Definitely - but not the FAs I would sign 

 

I'm not really advocating getting rid of the draft, just pointing out that it's not as fun for me to watch young players mature when there is a good chance they will be wearing another teams jersey in a couple of years.

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Not a franchise QB.

 

Unless he blows out a knee, and gets fellated on a cruise.

 

[Question for the J.P.Losman haters]

  Besides Aaron Brooks, name another starting QB that has committed turnovers/mistakes which directly lead to loses in 2 of their team's 3 games?

 

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Brett Favre and Ben Roethlisberger just off the top of my head.

 

Hey Joe, add this guy to the retard of the week nominations!

[A little comfort]

Don't simply blame the fans.  All of the pro sports are being filled with rent-a-players.  Why should fans have patience and enjoy watching the development of young players that may not be with the same team in a couple of years?

 

If I was a GM, I would be tempted to skip the first 3 rounds of the draft and spend the money in free agency.

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Plenty of free agent busts too.

[A little comfort]

Funny, me too!

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I consider you an extremely classy and intelligent Bills fan.

[A little comfort]

And I do think that part of JP's problem is the weight of what TD gave up for him and the way in which he and Mularkey completely botched everything last year. 

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The problem is that Bills fans never heard of the term development.

 

They assume a player should be HoF material right out of the box, or he's a bust.

 

I don't know if this goes on in all NFL cities, if so, this has to be the most retarded generation of football fans ever.

 

I always felt the Bills had intelligent fans, some days around here you wonder.

[Question for the J.P.Losman haters]

Sorry Mrs Losman.

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Good reply.

 

[Question for the J.P.Losman haters]

So is next year the first year posters will be allowed to criticize Losman or will they have to wait until his fifth year as a Bill?

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People can criticize him if they want, I do it every Sunday.

 

It's the people who hammer him on every little thing, and refuse to give him any credit.

 

Was JP great Sunday? Hell no.

 

Did his turnovers cost us the game? They helped, that's for sure.

 

Am I impressed that he's improved 10-fold since last season? Hell yes.

 

Criticism is one thing, being a moron who only dwells on the poor things, without aknowledging any progress, is ignorant.

 

Those are the people I target.

 

You a moron too?

[Joe D comments on Fergy's analysis]

Oh you again...

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Calling them as I see them... again.

[What do you say to Jp after our loss to the Jets?]

in other words, "i'll hafta to dig deeper up my ass to try and come up with random pointless, baseless, outright WRONG crap so i can continue my crusade against JP losman"

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[Joe D comments on Fergy's analysis]

Your rebuttal was that Losman threw the ball around to a bunch of different receivers, which, frankly, deosn't mean anything other than that he threw the ball around to a bunch of different receivers. 

 

The point that seems to being missed, over and over, as far as I know, Ferguson made the comments to Joe D, not necessarily for public consumption.  Also, as far as I know, Ferguson wasn't being paid to make the comments, like Smerlas or Tasker. 

 

Unless I am oblivious to something else, other than something Ferguson may have said to Jim Kelly many years ago, Ferguson doesn't have any record of being anti-Bills, or of being resentful toward the franchise, or Losman for that matter.

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I think Joe's comments have been shoved up his ass, by numerous posters in this thread.

 

No way JP was locking onto one receiver all day.

 

Anyone see a crow circling?

[What do you say to Jp after our loss to the Jets?]

Really? Pennington's two passing TDs versus the Pats added up to 93 yards-after-catch, and 173 of his 306 total yards in that game came courtesy of his receivers.

 

This week's other 300-yard passers with yac numbers (from GSIS):

Kitna 342 - yac: 178

Brady 320 - yac: 177

Bulger 309 - yac: 147

 

You were saying?

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Wow.

 

Owned again.

 

I have him on ignore, but I bet the dude still comes up with a retarded response.

 

Another amazing factual post Lori. You got skillz.

[Joe D comments on Fergy's analysis]

That's okay, Jauron said that JP was responsible for that one.

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He said the sack was his fault, not the fumble.

 

Nice try though.

[Question for the J.P.Losman haters]

Wasn't he still a year away last year?

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Every year we say that you're a year away from having a clue.

 

VABills is two years away.

 

I think between the 3 of you, JP has the best odds at finally getting it next year.

[Joe D comments on Fergy's analysis]

What's the common denominator between this year and last: the coaches or the QB?

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I haven't thought about this year, 3 games isn't a huge body of work.

 

JP played a good second half yesterday, so I'd say it was on last years staff.

 

Keep bitchin', JP will keep pitchin'.

[Joe D comments on Fergy's analysis]

Joe D. is no fan of JP.

 

I'd love to here what he says about him when the mic's are turned off.

 

In fact, Joe D. was great the first day he was on, but it's gonna be 13 more weeks of the same thing with this guy.

 

It's like listening to the Bulldog, gets old fast.

[Leinart to start for Arizona]

I'm curious to see how Leinart does.  Methinks it's not so much Warner as it is the O-line.  I mean, just look at James' stats.

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Wasn't the oline's fault Warner fumbled a crucial snap.

 

Also wasn't their fault he threw a perfect pass to a Ram linebacker in the endzone, with the nearest Cardinal being 10 yards away.

 

I can see why they benched him.

[Joe D comments on Fergy's analysis]

Which may explain why he performs so well on opening drives, but tends to decline as the game goes on, and the defense has time to observe and adjust.

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First off, he had more yards in the second half yesterday.

 

Secondly, could it be that the opposition coaches make better second half adjustments, then our coaches?

 

Nah, we'll just blame it all on JP.

 

I'm glad you're somewhat impressed with JP.

 

I also love how you circle like a crow around a dead animal, every post that hammers him, stirring the debate.

[Joe D comments on Fergy's analysis]

What does that mean?

 

Sure he spread the ball around, but its obvious JP's problem is he knows who hes going to before he even takes the snap.

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It's only obvious to a genius like you.

 

[How is JP's progression compared to other]

Oh, OK.

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4 posts and you're already acting like an idiot.

 

It took me 7, but after that I got on a roll.

 

By the way, what was Troy Aikman and Peyton Manning's W/L record their first 11 starts?

 

Yes, the question is rhetorical and redundant.

[What do you say to Jp after our loss to the Jets?]

As you said, i honestly think HA needs to be evaluated by a psychiatrist and possibly be perscribed some drugs to fix his numerous problems.

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I say we take the Spiked Lemonaide route.

 

His crusade had more validity, and that is saying a lot.

[JP's Accuracy]

What he said specifically was, we don't care what you guys say about us, good or bad, we go about our jobs the same. We work hard and play hard and try to win. How exactly is that turning on the media?

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Go back and look at all his posts.

 

He's nothing but a hating moron.

[My take: The good and the bad]

Great post Faustus.

[I didn't think JP was the best QB in the league...]

With JP/KH/CN at QB I would

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Don't need fans with your football IQ anyways.

 

If you think QB is our biggest concern...

[Nice NON-block McGahee]

Some of you guys sound a lot like Mularkey last year when JP had a bad game -- trying to deflect blame elsewhere.

 

JP's mistakes were critical to the outcome of the game.  With any luck, he will learn from them.  It does not help JP to try to deflect his mistakes elsewhere.

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Right.

 

Jauron blamed Willis.

 

He must be a JP apologist too.