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What gets me here is that the lawyers are going after the Bills organization. Call me paranioid if you want but that is what is really in play here. It is what makes this different than the usual brawl. Drunken morons beating up innocents (and/or opposing drunken morons) happens very often in every sporting venue in the US. That doesn't make it right, but it can't be denied. Now a Boston attorney is suing the Bills organization? The same Bills organization that is fighting the small market battle versus a leader of the big market (Kraft)? Right. No Boston attorney has sued the Patriots because of fights in their parking lot? There haven't been any fights in the Patriots parking lot? The Boston Herald is enlisted and calls Buffalo fans "New York fans"? LOL. These guys should try stopping at an eastbound Thruway rest area with a Bills jersey on after a NE game. Can I sue the Thruway system? I've seen enough Patriots fans at the Ralph to know that as a group they are looking for a fight. That doesn't mean this guy was or wasn't but the large group that busses in from Boston every year is generally loud, crass, drunk, and stupid. If the beating was as one sided as the church going Bostonian angel portrays then the Bills mob deserves stiff punishment. I find that possible but unlikely. I am sure there were plenty of outrageously obnoxious Pats fans roaming around. Why pick on one guy innocently using a port o john? If it was two sided then the church going angel should be punished as well. He should be able to sue them if he can prove it was one sided.

Jon Dorenbos was actually rated lower, but instead of writing a nasty letter he just made himself disappear from the game.

Hard to argue that. All three are owned by the al-Maktoum family. They have spent a REDICULOUS amount of money in this year's yearling sales as well- they are looking to take over American horse racing and dominate the major races. Hard to leave Lava Man out of that group, but hard to replace any one of those three. Looking at speed numbers, Lava Man has certainly been slower than Bernarini this year, but he's still 7-for-7 against mostly Grade I talent. He has torched the California competition, but his performances have not been exceptional outside of Cali. Nonetheless, he has found a way to win. I expect they ship him to Churchill well before the BC to make sure he's acclimated. Lava Man will have to run an amazing race to beat Bernardini (and Invasor for that matter) but I'll be pulling for him. 802782[/snapback] I'll take a shot at arguing it although I like all three horses. 1. Bernardini - No argument at all. It will be interesting to see him if/when he is pushed. I won't bet against him. 2. Discreet Cat - I liked his chances in the Derby if he came over (he didn't). With that said, he has not been pushed at all. There is a good chance he will falter against top competition. 3. Henny Hughes - Great sprinter but I've seen a million top sprinters falter late in the season. Lost in the Fog did just last year. Anybody remember a horse named Groovy? Trust me, Henny Hughes has not yet done half of what Groovy did. Groovy faltered in the BC. The BC Sprint will be grueling. Henny may hold up but there is usually money to be made on a closer rounding into sprint form (Greeley's Galaxy?) In any event, I am hard pressed to ever put a sprinter in the top 3.

No doubt those two were great but top to bottom of the 3YO division, I'll go with 1987. I went to the Travers that year. All of the following were in it: Java Gold (winner) Alysheba Bet Twice Gulch Cryptoclearence Polish Navy Temperate Sil Gulch had an entrymate that was a rabbit. I think that was the whole field.

Valenzuela > Day

I don't really see any problem with him entering into the LLC, but it seems to me that he should have reported it. It is a rule. He should know the rule and bend over backwards to live up to it. He has himself to blame for this becoming a story. IMO, I see no problem with the way property taxes were handled. I'm not real big on all the re-zoning stuff that appeared to take place and increase the value of the land. I can't say I see something illegal, just the kind of crap that goes on with all of these clowns on both sides.

I'm older than the people who have posted so far. Here is my list: Java Gold Easy Goer Coquistador Cielo Personal Ensign Unbridled

I was more asking for thoughts about Reid and his actions (and/or inactions) than I was about democrats or republicans in general. I realize that politicians (in general) pull this kind of stuff often. Reid is pretty high ranking. This report has a pretty high level of detail. Do the dems on the board think it is simply a repub dirty trick? Even if it is, should Reid face consequences? Do the repubs think the press will help bury this unlike the Foley thing? Personally, I find it as unsurprising as I would if the same article were published about a prominent repub. Maybe there'll be one of those next week. Either way, way a dirt bag is exposed, we should hold him accountable.

Thanks for the link GG. I just listened and didn't really get too much out of it in terms of "bizarre". It was basically the same interviewing style they had with Polian after the Colts playoff loss: "Bill, can't you admit that Manning sucks under pressure" "How can you say he doesn't suck" "But basically, he sucks, right?" To me it just seemed like Lidle said something he shouldn't, albeit a single sentence in what was probably a long interview, and these guys were making a federal case out of it. I didn't get a read of some underlying problem with Lidle's psyche based on that phone call.

I doubt this means anything but I spoke with my mom this afternoon when I heard. She is a big Yankee fan. She said Lidle gave a very strange, almost incoherent at times, interview on Mike and the Mad Dog yesterday or the day before. She said Lidle was not really answering their questions and seemed strange and ended up hanging up on them. The hosts of the show didn't know what to make of the whole episode. I didn't hear it and I'm not sure it relates, but it does seem odd. I will say not having heard it that maybe it was on M&MD. I've heard them antagonize people before. I remember Bill Polian hanging up on them and they proceeded to call his beahavior bizzare.

It might as well be me. Your thoughts?

We're a young team. That means we can have good games that are unexpected and bad games that are unexpected. It also means we can afford very few mistakes, even against marginal teams. I said to someone yesterday that I thought the Bills would go 1-1 in their next two games. What I meant was that if Chicago had been too high after the Seattle game we might have a crack at them. It may have been the best time to play the Bears. If we had beaten the Bears I could easily see us reading our press clippings and gettting beaten by the Lions. Their record is bad but they are not that bad. Now that the Bills have had a rude awakening I think they'll be focused for next week. I hope I'm right. If the Bills win, the NE game will be a huge opportunity. If not, it will still be important but not likely such an open window to the future.

Here are your answers. 1. Beet. He beats the heck out of Tom Donahoe 2. Mallo Cups 3. "If this is goodbye" Mark Knopfler and Emmylou Harris 4. E L O 5. Sylvester McMonkey McBean

Again, I am at a loss for which of your answers is worse and must grade them as a group....... WRONG!!!!!!

1. Tomato (a fruit), yet I asked for a vegetable......WRONG!!!!!!! 2. A said a hint, not a giveaway. WRONG!!!!!!!! 4. I can honestly say that I can personally atest that I can be sure that you are WRONG!!!!!!

1. You added sweet to your original answer so I guess i should say it sweetly..... WRONG!!!!!! 2. Good use of hint.....WRONG!!!!!! 3. 4. What about fish? WRONG!!!!!! 5. Cat z? WRONG!!!!!

Oh. In that case......PATHETICALLY WRONG!!!!!!!!

Using this line of reasoning you could make an excuse for a government ban on anything.

1. Very nice. WRONG!!!!!! 2. Nope. But go ahead and ejoy those if you're flexible enough. 3. He should, but he doesn't. WRONG!!!!!! 4. Too much Nascar in your diet. WRONG!!!!!! 5. Who is this Yurtle everyone keeps mentioning? WRONG!!!!!!!!

Sorry I missed them the first time. Actually, I'm glad i missed it at least for a while. 1. WRONG!!!!!! Marv gathers no moss ever. 2. I'd have gone with the dark chocolate from that bag, but nevertheless....WRONG!!!!!! 3. That would have been true if Gore had been elected. WRONG!!!!!! 4. Good thought. WRONG!!!!!!! 5. Classy. WRONG!!!!!!!!!

Hints: 1. Donahoe 2. Coconut 3. Odd pairing 4. 80s 5. Can't think of one without giving it away.

1. Good one. I hope I look like him when I'm 80. WRONG!!!!!! 2. Not sure what that is so ...... WRONG!!!!!!!

1. WRONG!!!!!! 2. I like those. I think I'll get some. WRONG!!!!!! 3. Very good WRONG!!!!! choice. 4. Uh like totally like not right dude. 5. Another stellar attempt gone bad. WRONG!!!!!!!

1. Is that a...never mind...WRONG!!!!! 2. On what planet? WRONG!!!!!!! 3. Stop making me think about Martina. It is distracting. On second, thought, go ahead. 4. covered already and still WRONG!!!!!! 5. WRONG!!!!!

1. What was the question again? Oh, right...yeah funny.....WRONG!!!!!! 2. Explosive but rated properly. WRONG!!!!! 3. 9/11? WRONG!!!!!! 4. 5. Close. WRONG!!!!!!