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I feel a logical cerebral tone back to this team, that has been missing the last 10 years. Coincedentily enough, that coincided with Levy's exit from the team. I am quite reminded to 85-86, when the Bills were a pathetic organization, and it had the same feel, us Bills fans experienced recently. Back in the mid-80's it was Polian - Levy that brought us from the abyss, now 20 years later its Levy - Jauron. Their moves are quite interesting and I think we may be surprised at the results...........
It only makes me realize how easily I was enthralled with Donahoe's Fools Gold.
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What??? Free Agency started today bro.... Chill... The Bills signed 2 players to minor contracts. Relax. Nothing to see here, look away. Damn, I can't get used to this new way of thinking.
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Actually, I flat out disagree with this conclusion. Its actually very hard to disagree with this woulda/coulda/shoulda analysis because by definition when one starts with an assumption that past actions were different then it is virtually guaranteed the future would be different.
The problem with this proposition is that you simply assume that it would be different better than different worse in term of outcome.
However, in this case, if the thing you assume is different (the Bills draft Pennington in 2000) there is no reason to assume that anything whatsoever would be different about the Bills outcome in 2000 or 2001 for that matter.
The major even reasonably forseeable difference caused by your assumption is that the Bills would be without Flowers at DE. This change actually makes little difference in terms of the outcome of Bills play as essentially even having drafted Flowers he made no real contribution to the Bills. The team lacked DE talent with Flowers and under your assumption the team would continue to lack DE talent.
On the other side with your assumption the team now has Pennington. Well in real life for NYJ Pennington sat and learned for virtually all of two seasons before he took the field as a consistent starter for NYJ. It appears more than reasonable that he he would have followed pretty much the same course of action if he had become a Bill.
In the 2000 season he would have sat on the bench as the disaster QB behind DF and RJ. The Bills had already signed these two to contracts which locked up over $10 million in salary to these 2 QBs. RWS had already engineered the lesser paid of these two multi-millionaires sitting against Indy and the Titans to play the richer of these two QBs, RJ.
In the 2001 season, TD's first Pennington in the AVP spot likely moves up to #2 QB when DF is a cap casualty and likely plays even sooner than he did as a Jet due to RJ being injury prone, but Pennington is actually the QB of a team in 2001 that was 3-13 because both the offense and the defense were horrendous.
IMHO, the major story for the failure of this squad was that we foolishly went to the GW TN D which was a 4-3 when switching from a 3-4 actually necessitated that we have more quality on the DL. Having lost Big Ted and bruce as cap casualties, Wiley to FA and being about to see Hansen retire, this team and D failed because it was missing a DE of Jevon Kearse quality and put Raion Hill in to be Blaine Bishop and it did not work. Add to that the unfortunate loss of Sam Cowart and the results would not have varied a ton likely with RJ, AVP, or Pennington at QB.
As far as the O went, we had lousy QB play, but a big problem that year was actually that we had Sheppard as OC and he would have been bad enough to deserve being canned regardles of which QB he was making worse.
The conclusion you reach that we would be much better with this single change ignores the fact that the single change you offer would not do anything at all to change the personnel on the D which was a large limiting factor on the results achieved by this team, and also it would do noting to change the overall lack of good guidance that GW and Sheppard provided for this team.
If you want, you can inject some theory that Pennington (who was not even the NYJ starter at this point in real life) would somehow have made the D better with his ball control of the O, AND would have made Sheppard an OC who did not get canned with time left on his contract, AND would have made GW a great offensive HC, but everybody would laugh.
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Pyrite Gal... Keep it coming... I would like to read more logical posts from this board. Fantastic response.
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Anyone think Lofton has a chance? I thought it was peculiar that he got Head Coach interviews as a WR coach, but no talk of him as an OC. Do you think he might get a shot with Marv as GM?
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You know, I kinda agree. He got an extremely raw deal in Chi town.
Well respected, and also on his 2nd stint, with a few years separating the 2 jobs...
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I have already stated that it is SDS in his continuing psychological profile of internet message boards. He has hinted as such...
But what the hell do I know...
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Sorry Rico, I used to be an internet jockey as SDS and the old timers know, but I was just throwing out this observation. You are the entertainment I was referring to! Keep up the good work!
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Wow... It sounds like I am posting the obvious. It is killer fun though. At least after a loss, we can all enjoy the shenanigans!
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I don't post much, but I find myself hopping on here for the entertainment after a loss. With a win, I typically read the media reports, check in here briefly, and move on.
After a loss, I love coming on here to see the emotion of fans losing their cool over a football team. I am not being condescending, as I find myself getting fired up as well.
What do you guys think? Wins are killer, but losses really make message boards more entertaining.
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Theisman is not a Hall of Fame QB.
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The real shame of it is the number of people who are already playing partisan politics with a fundamentally non-partisan event.
A much more elegant response to my position.
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Jeez, seems like people are going ape sh-- to defend the President. Just a bit defensive and should probably take off the zombie blinders to see what this nation needs. When already over half the nation doesn't approve of Bush's job performance it doesn't help when he can't project the least bit of leadership. Good thing the WH brought in his Dad and Clinton to make people think something's being done.
I have no doubt every level of government is doing what they can but Churchill wasn't indispensible because he knew where to put the tanks.
I also find the thread a tad too political. Is it so wrong for the average citizen to criticize the federal, state and local government? Why does everyone make it a Republican vs Democrat political discussion? Most of us, as Americans, seek the best for our country. This age of black and white politics is really disconcerting. Based on that, you must be a really staunch conservative Republican, with strong political connections, to support this current administration.
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BUFFALO, N.Y. (AP) – Bills wide receiver Roscoe Parrish had surgery on his injured right wrist Friday, but the rookie is expected to play this season.
The second-round draft pick out of Miami fell on his right wrist while diving for a pass during training camp on Wednesday. The Bills, who will play their preseason opener in Indianapolis on Saturday, didn’t announce the nature of Parrish’s injury or give a timetable for his return.
The surgery took place after Parrish returned to Buffalo on Thursday to review test results with the team’s medical director, Dr. John Marzo.
Parrish’s agent, Drew Rosenhaus, didn’t return telephone messages left by The Associated Press.
Parrish was the Bills’ top draft pick after the team traded its first-rounder to Dallas for the right to select quarterback J.P. Losman in the first round last year.
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Not true Jeff. In Southern California we call I-5 and I-405, "the 5" and "the 405". This is true for the 101, the 73 and the 241 as well.
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Any amateur home brew I was forced to drink, acting as though their creation was the next big beer. Also, the guys that know what they are doing create some decent stuff, but it always seems as though they can't stop on a good thing.
Other than that, I think all the rest are pretty freakin obvious.
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I know this goes against everything that's right about beer drinking (in America), but my favorite beer as a treat, is a French beer called Fischer LaBelle. Great clean taste, and very satisfying.
My beer of choice is Spaten, although sometimes I get whatever is on sale between Heinekin, Becks or Bass if the funds are low.
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I don't quite understand why everyone thinks we won't make the playoffs for 3 more years. We were on the cusp last year, and we only lost Pat Williams and Jonas Jennings. Servicable veterans, but not blue-chippers by any means. McGahee and Evans are going to shine in their second year of starting, and I believe Losman is an upgrade over Bledsoe. Losman may make some mistakes, but I think his arm and his legs will win some games as well.
I just don't understand the negativism of this team, based on the losses of only 2 meaningful starters off of last years squad.
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I was just about to type that... In Indianapolis everyone can't just say a number, everyone needs to make sure they tell you that it is an interstate you are getting on.
Them..."You take I465, get on I70, Take I65 North."
Me... 'I ain't taking any "I" you friggin dolt! I am taking "the" 465.'
Well in Southern California we call it "the 5" and "the 405" and "the 101", so its not that unique...
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The Bills aren't even mentioned as a possibility for a move in the OC Register. The usual suspects are New Orleans, Jacksonville, and San Diego.
http://www.ocregister.com/ocregister/sport...cle_1078851.php