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    so, anybody else get boned by Obama

    in Politics, Polls, and Pundits

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    Have you ever benefited from socialized medicine? Beyond the "dregs that don't want to work or have someone else cover their ass" everyone benefits.

     

    I have been sick to the point of being intubated because I couldn't breathe on my own. Went to my physician who wouldn't take a walk in, scheduled an appt only to have him have a nurse see me, called me back in (another co pay) to say there was nothing wrong with me and I would be fine with Tylenol and Aspirin, I explained to him that it wasn't working and he rudely suggested I go to the er if it was that serious, I did and spent 3 days in the hospital. With insurance it cost me over $4,000 for just the hospital part. I didn't appreciate the private health care or paying my premiums.

     

    I also had a medical issue while on vacation in Italy. Called the doctor, got in the same day, got treatment and a couple extra vials of the medicine in case of another issue, total cost $0. My sister lives in Italy and comes home for a month in the summer, the entire time she is extremely nervous about her kids and their safety bc she doesn't have health insurance - it is unnecessary with socialized medicine.

     

    I've seen all sides of it. Have you? In my experience many (not all) doctors care about seeing as many patients as they can to bill as much as they can - not the quality of care they give. When the idea of being a "patient factory" is removed the care improves. Instead of racing patient to patient they spend time. People that are doctors are so because they want to help not because it will make them rich.

     

    Wouldn't you be happier not paying excellus, mvp, etc, it seems like my rates keep going up while the quality of coverage is going down.

     

    I was just talking about this with a group of Canadian born hockey players in my league. This is what they were saying:

     

    1). Yes, you be waiting for a hip replacement, but you won't be turned away for a heart attack so something serious.

    2). One guy had an ankle replacement in Canada by a top surgeon, Another time he had to go to the ER in the US to get 4 stitches by a Nurse Practitoner. He paid more for the 4 stitches here in the US than the surgery in Canada.

    3). They blame the high prices here on the lobbyist and everyone having their hand in the cookie jar.

    Do you have to stop when leaving Walmart when they ask to look in your

    in Off the Wall Archives

    Posted

    Stopping someone from leaving when they refuse to show you their receipt is false imprisonment. There are dozens of cases where juries have awarded 5 or 6 figure sums to those held by department stores for suspected shoplifting.

     

     

    What are you talking about? Half your post doesn't even make sense. Sign a warrant for kidnapping? Huh? False imprisonment is rarely a criminal matter. "Tresspassed" off the property for life?

    I think it's clear you have no understanding of the situation.

     

    Wal-mart routinely pays out huge settlements for people detained for suspected shoplifting. If they follow you to your car, guess what? They can't do **** to stop you. If they won't let you leave you have an iron-clad false imprisonment/harassment case.

     

    The fact is that they can only legally detain you if someone witnesses you stealing. If they stop you and you didn't steal? Well, it might be time to think about buying a bigger home.

     

    Question: Can someone detain you for shoplifting? Answer: Yes, my state gives citizens arrest powers in regards to a larceny. So no, it's not a violation of your 4th amendment rights.

     

    In regards to Walmart, in which I have personally prosecuted hundreds of shoplifting cases over the years. They will approach you at the door, identify themselves as Wal-Mart personal, and ask to speak with you. If you tell them to pound sand and walk away, they won't jump on top of you and restrain you. They will however call the police and follow you to your vehicle. Upon police arrival you will be detained while the incident is investigated. In my experience with the Walmart stores in my area, they will usually tresspass you from the store for life. Loss prevention personal will also fax your photo to other stores in the area. So even if you didn't shoplift, you still caused an unnecessary scene and tied up police and store personal on a non issue.

    Do you have to stop when leaving Walmart when they ask to look in your

    in Off the Wall Archives

    Posted

    It's called false imprisonment and it costs stores a lot of money.

     

    I will start out saying that Walmart has the best loss prevention of any store I have ever seen. If a stolen credit card is used at their store, all they have to do is put the credit card number into their computer, and it will pull up the video of the register and the person that used it. They have people in plain clothes walking the store looking for shoplifters, and somebody in their back room actively looking over the cameras. Then you have the door checkers at the door.

     

    In my state, a larceny is something you can make a citizens arrest for. I don't know of a judge out there that would sign a kidnapping (false imprisonment as you call it) warrant that starts off with, the front door sensors went off and the subject refused to stop for loss prevention personal on request.

     

    If you refuse to stop, they will call the police and follow you to your car. Upon police arrival, you will most likely be tresspassed off the property for life. On top of that you will be detained by police while the store video is reviewed.

     

    So yeah, don't stop and make a small issue into something big.

    The occupy Wall Street movement spreads

    in Politics, Polls, and Pundits

    Posted

    http://content.clear..._1319803260.pdf

     

     

    'Occupy Phoenix' Flier: When Should You Shoot A Cop

     

    Arizona counter-terrorism officials have released a statement about a controversial flier circulating at the Occupy Phoenix protest titled 'When You Should Shoot A Cop.'

     

    "Copies of an “informational” letter were left on a table for protestors pick up [sic] and read during the “Occupy Phoenix” event at Cesar Chavez Park. The presence of the letter was reported to the ACTIC by a Maricopa County Sheriff’s Depute who had responded to an unrelated call and was alerted to it by another deputy working the event."

     

    "The letter is blatantly anti-government and anti-law enforcement in nature. It not only condones but even encourages citizens to kill any “government agent” (i.e. law enforcement officers), who in their perception violates their rights. Examples are given in the document, of “illegal” search and seizure, sobriety and border checkpoints, airport security, etc… In essence this document states that citizens have the right and moral obligation to resist any action by law enforcement that is viewed as a violation of the citizen’s rights, and often-times resistance involves killing officers."

     

    "“Occupy” events have drawn protestors for various causes including “Chalk the Police” and “Police Brutality Day”. With emotions running high in regards to law enforcement and government personnel, there is obvious concern this document could incite actions with protestors to take actions they might not have taken otherwise."

     

    It looks like it came from Larken Rose. He has done time in jail for not paying his taxes.

     

    Aren't felons and homeless people part of the 99%?

     

    I monitor our local occupy website daily, and some of the more extreme posters are no stranger to law enforcement.

    The occupy Wall Street movement spreads

    in Politics, Polls, and Pundits

    Posted

    The Occupy Wall Street volunteer kitchen staff launched a “counter” revolution yesterday -- because they’re angry about working 18-hour days to provide food for “professional homeless” people and ex-cons masquerading as protesters.

     

     

    http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/manhattan/zuccotti_hell_kitchen_i5biNyYYhpa8MSYIL9xSDL

     

    How Ironic

     

    Retatta, the official dish of occupy wall street protesters.

    Rochester Woman Arrested for Taping Cops,Then harass her supporters

    in Off the Wall Archives

    Posted

    We've already had this discussion over on Officer.com

     

    Some facts to add to the discussion:

     

    1 - The videotaper is a professional protester; yes, the ones that go to any and all lengths to precipitate a Police response which they can later claim was "too far", "unprofessional", or broke some other kind of moral rule.

     

    2 - The RPD Officer involved NEVER ONCE asked, directed, or demanded that said protester stop video-taping, only that she remove herself from the scene (and yes, politely, and numerous times).

     

    3 - Not so long ago, an RPD Police Officer, Anthony DiPonzio, was ambushed and sniped IN THE HEAD from afar. Luckily, Tony survived and is still making wonderful progress in recovering. Unfortunately, the "wonderful" citizens of the Rochester community have nothing better to do than to interpose themselves in Police activities hoping that they get the chance to do just this - force Officers to deal with them, muddy-up an active investigation, and get their fifteen minutes of YouTube fame.

    Texas justice?

    in Politics, Polls, and Pundits

    Posted

    So, a sworn lie can be evidence.

     

    A lie, or filing a false police report is a crime. There are also civilly remedies you can take against your accuser(s) after the criminal portion of the case is over. As far as your criminal case goes, the law enforcement officer arrested you after getting several sworn statements from witnesses that stated they observed you arouse yourself in public. The officer acted in good faith and arrested you based on these statements.

     

    The other things I have going for me are, I'm not built like a horse.

     

    Has nothing to do with the crime you are charged with.

     

    She doesn't have a picture of the alleged event, even though she had a cell phone and plenty of time to take one.

     

    Again, this is not a requirement for the crime you are charged with.

     

    The language used in the affidavit is not how normal citizens speak. "he had intent to cause arousal," or "he showed no remorse." Of course, that could be the cop leading them. But please!

     

    A warrant affidavit is usually written by a police officer. If this is the case, that is proper terminology for what you did.

    Texas justice?

    in Politics, Polls, and Pundits

    Posted

    Well, I guess I may have been in an issue around mid April. But I would not have seen it as I was in jail. I don't know very many people in Austin. So I'm not terribly worried about it.

     

     

     

    If I can expose what really happened, it should make news. Completely innocent man plucked off the street, incarcerated for more than a month, charged with a crime with zero evidence. What an embarrassment to the city of Austin. I did get a reply from the mayors office. "Thank you for your e-mail to the City of Austin. Our staff will research your inquiry and respond to you upon completion."

     

    There is evidence against you. The police have sworn statements that corroborate each other from multiple credible witnesses. These people don't know you have have no prejudice against you. That is enough Probable Cause to get a warrant from any neutral magistrate or judge I have ever met. Now getting a conviction from a jury is another story.

    Texas justice?

    in Politics, Polls, and Pundits

    Posted

    That's !@#$ed up.

     

    Hope your attorney's good...anyone halfway decent should get this thrown out on procedural grounds.

     

    I haven't done a pretrial hearing in 3 or 4 years. Now days, it's just a meeting between the prosecutor and defense attorneys. Both parties sit down, look at the evidence, and then a plea is typically worked out.

    NAACP in Myrtle Beach to police discrimination

    in Politics, Polls, and Pundits

    Posted

    http://www.thesunnews.com/2011/05/27/2184575/naacp-in-town-to-monitor-fairness.html

     

    NAACP in town to monitor fairness of rally compared to Harley Davidson event

     

     

     

     

    I'm sure it has less to do with serving black people than it does the violence that Black Bike Week brings with it annually.

     

    http://www.wmbfnews.com/story/14746715/myrtle-beach-police-see-busy-weekend-for-crime

    MBPD investigates weekend violent crimes

     

     

     

    and on and on and on...

     

    The businesses (restaurant/hotels) shut their doors because of the crime, because their employees couldn't make it to work, and because they lost money during black bike week. Traditionally this week brings in a crowd that walks out on their food bills and tear up hotel rooms. The NAACP sued the businesses that closed their doors and later settled with them. Now everyone stays open for both rallies.

     

    Although there is a spike in crime this week, MB has high crime all year long.

    Myrtle Beach ranked as 4th most dangerous spring break destination.

    Myrtle Beach Crime Stats

    Another Player arrested

    in The Stadium Wall Archives

    Posted

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/police-blotter/

     

    4/4/2011: Chiefs LB Mike Vrabel is arrested for theft, a Class D felony, in Indiana.

     

    4/3/2011: Raiders WR Louis Murphy is arrested for possession of a drug without a valid prescription, failure to obey a police officer and resisting

    arrest without violence.

     

    3/30/2011: Buccaneers CB Aqib Talib is arrested for aggravated assault with a deadly weapon.

     

    3/25/2011: Eagles OT Jason Peters is arrested for loud music and disturbing the peace.

     

    3/25/2011: Packers DL Johnny Jolly is arrested for possession of codeine.

     

    3/19/2011: Cowboys CB Bryant McCann is arrested for public intoxication.

     

    3/17/2011: Raiders OL Mario Henderson is arrested for carrying a concealed firearm.

     

    3/12/2011: Vikings CB Chris Cook is arrested for brandishing a handgun.

     

    3/4/2011: Eagles OT King Dunlap is arrested for reckless driving and disorderly conduct.

     

    3/4/2011: Bucs director of pro scouting Shelton Quarles is arrested for DUI.

     

    2/25/2011: Rams scout Luke Driscoll is arrested for public intoxication and public nudity.

     

    2/12/2011: Redskins DT Albert Haynesworth is charged with assault.

     

    2/12/2011: Raiders RB Michael Bush is arrested for drunk driving.

     

    1/31/2011: Vikings DE Everson Griffen is arrested for felony battery.

     

    1/28/2011: Vikings DE Everson Griffen is arrested for public intoxication.

     

    1/18/2011: Broncos RB Laurence Maroney is arrested on weapons charges.

     

    12/27/2010: Redskins DT Joe Joseph is arrested for DUI.

     

    12/26/2010: Ravens LB Sergio Kindle is arrested for DUI.

     

    12/20/2010: Broncos LB Kevin Alexander is arrested for assault and battery.

     

    12/13/2010: Bucs LB Geno Hayes is arrested on misdemeanor trespassing charges.

     

    12/10/2010: Broncos CB Perrish Cox is arrested for sexual assault.

     

    11/27/2010: Saints DE Will Smith is arrested for domestic violence.

     

    11/19/2010: Buccaneers WR Mike Williams is arrested for suspicion of DUI.

    11/13/2010: Seahawks DE Raheem Brock is arrested for DUI.

     

    11/12/2010: Broncos LB D.J. Williams is arrested for suspicion of DUI.

     

    10/24/2010: Broncos LB Elvis Dumervil is arrested for assault.

     

    10/23/2010: Buccaneers TE Jerramy Stevens is arrested for felony possession of cannabis with intent to distribute, felony possession of cannabis, and misdemeanor possession of drug paraphernalia.

     

    10/20/2010: Colts P Patrick McAfee is arrested for drunk and disorderly conduct.

     

    10/5/2010: Panthers WR Dwayne Jarrett is arrested for DUI.

     

    9/25/2010: Patriots DB Bret Lockett is arrested for disorderly conduct and “failure to move.”

     

    9/21/10: Jets WR Braylon Edwards is arrested for DUI.

     

    9/18/10: Ravens assistant coach Andy Moeller is arrested for DUI.

     

    9/3/10: Colts DT Fili Moala is arrested for DUI.

     

    8/30/10: Bucs assistant defensive line coach Chris Mosley is arrested for DUI.

     

    8/17/10: Browns DB Gerard Lawson pleads no contest to DUI charges.

     

    8/9/10: Colts DT John Gill is arrested for public intoxication.

     

    8/8/10: Browns DB Gerard Lawson is charged with drunk driving and hit-skip.

     

    7/24/10: Rams CB Jerome Murphy is arrested for driving without a valid license.

     

    7/19/10: Falcons DT Jonathan Babineaux pleads no contest to marijuana possession.

     

    7/18/10: Jaguars Senior Sales Manager, Season and Premium Seating, Thomas Patterson is arrested for disorderly intoxication/public disturbance and resisting an officer without violence.

     

    7/13/10: Browns DT Shaun Rogers enters a diversion program following an arrest for attempting to board a plane with a gun.

     

    7/3/10: Seahawks RB Quinton Ganther is arrested for DUI.

     

    6/29/2010: Bengals RB Cedric Benson is arrested for assault with injury.

     

    6/26/2010: Lions president Tom Lewand is arrested for DUI.

     

    6/16/2010: Titans DE Derrick Morgan is arrested for speeding and driving with an expired license.

     

    6/13/2010: Titans QB Vince Young is cited for misdemeanor assault.

     

    6/12/2010: 49ers DT Ray McDonald is arrested for suspicion of DUI.

     

    5/26/2010: Dolphins DE Phillip Merling is arrested for aggravated battery.

     

    5/24/2010: Chargers S Kevin Ellison is arrested for possession of 100 Vicodin pills.

     

    5/23/2010: Saints rookie Harry Coleman is arrested for simple battery.

     

    5/16/2010: Buccaneers WR Mario Urrutia is arrested for a misdemeanor drivers license violation.

     

    5/4/2010: Bengals WR Maurice Purify is arrested for disorderly conduct.

     

    4/30/2010: Chargers WR Vincent Jackson pleads guilty to knowingly driving with a suspended license.

     

    4/27/2010: Free-agent S Clinton Hart is arrested for domestic battery.

     

    4/17/2010: Browns RB Chris Jennings is arrested for suspicion of assault.

     

    4/10/2010: Seahawks LB Leroy Hill is arrested for domestic violence.

     

    4/1/2010: Browns DT Shaun Rogers is arrested for possession of a weapon.

     

    4/1/2010: Seahawks LB Leroy Hill pleads guilty to marijuana possession.

     

    3/27/10: Cardinals LB Joey Porter is arrested for DUI, resisting arrest, and assaulting a peace officer.

     

    3/26/10: Bears OL Lance Louis pleads guilty to misdemeanor battery.

     

    3/19/10: Dolphins RB Ronnie Brown is arrested on suspicion of DUI.

     

    3/13/10: Packers TE Spencer Havner is arrested for DUI. (His agents have denied that he was charged.)

     

    2/23/10: Chargers WR Vincent Jackson pleads guilty to DUI charges.

     

    2/20/10: Dolphins CB Will Allen is arrested for DUI.

     

    2/19/10: Redskins CB Byron Westbrook is arrested for DUI, negligent driving, and failure to drive right of center.

     

    2/7/10: Dolphins DE Tony McDaniel is arrested for misdemeanor battery.

     

    2/2/10: Cowboys FB Deon Anderson is arrested for traffic warrants and brandishing a weapon.

     

    2/2/10: Bengals LB Rey Maualuga pleads guilty to DUI.

     

    1/30/10: Chiefs CB Michael Richardson is arrested for various alcohol-related charges.

     

    1/29/10: Bengals LB Rey Maualuga is arrested for DUI and careless driving.

     

    1/18/10: Redskins G Chad Rinehart is arrested for public intoxication.

     

    1/17/10: Chargers WR Vincent Jackson is arrested for driving with a suspended license.

     

    1/15/10: Titans WR Kenny Britt is arrested for outstanding traffic tickets.

     

    1/15/10: Former Bears DT Dusty Dvoracek is arrested for public intoxication, assault and battery, and interference with an official process.

     

    1/12/10: Jets WR Braylon Edwards pleads no contest to assault charges.

     

    1/10/10: Bucs S Jermaine Phillips is arrested for felony domestic battery by strangulation.

     

    1/1/10: Colts WR Taj Smith is arrested for DUI.

     

    12/29/09: Saints DE Bobby McCray is arrested for DUI.

     

    12/15/09: Packers DT Johnny Jolly is indicted for possession of codeine.

     

    12/11/09: Falcons DT Jonathan Babineaux is arrested on felony drug charges.

     

    12/11/09: Patriots mascot Robert Sormanti is arrested for soliciting prostitution.

     

    12/30/09: Panthers LB Jon Beason is arrested for assault.

     

    11/16/09: Falcons WR Eric Weems is arrested for DUI.

     

    10/27/09: Bucs G Marcus Johnson is arrested for DUI.

    10/26/09: Jets WR Braylon Edwards is charged with misdemeanor assault.

     

    10/13/09: Bears G Lance Louis is charged with misdemeanor assault.

     

    10/7/09: Vikings CB Cedric Griffin pleads guilty to DUI.

     

    10/5/09: Dolphins CB Will Billingsley is charged with battery and resisting arrest.

     

    9/22/09: Texans WR Jacoby Jones pleads guilty to DUI.

     

    9/07/09: Broncos TE Richard Quinn is arrested for “harassment — obstruction of phone services/domestic violence.”

     

    9/06/09: Chargers LB Shawne Merriman is arrested for battery and false imprisonment.

     

    8/31/09: Vikings CB Cedric Griffin is arrested for DUI.

     

    8/31/09: Saints S Usama Young is arrested for reckless operation of a motor vehicle and flight from a police officer.

     

    8/21/09: Titans WR Chris Davis is arrested for DUI.

     

    8/20/09: Free-agent WR Plaxico Burress pleads guilty to felony weapons charges.

     

    8/20/09: Buccaneers CB Aqib Talib is arrested for battery and resisting arrest without violence.

     

    8/5/09: Eagles DE Juqua Parker is arrested for marijuana possession.

     

    7/22/09: Seahawks FB Owen Schmitt pleads guilty to reckless driving.

     

    7/20/09: Texans FB Vonta Leach is arrested for misdemeanor assault.

     

    6/20/09: Seahawks FB Owen Schmitt is arrested for DUI.

     

    6/16/09: Browns WR Donte’ Stallworth pleads guilty to DUI manslaughter.

     

    6/1/09: Bengals CB Leon Hall, previously charged with DUI, pleads guilty to reckless operation of a vehicle.

     

    5/27/09: Falcons OT Quinn Ojinaka is arrested for misdemeanor battery.

     

    5/24/09: Dolphins DT Randy Starks is arrested for aggravated battery.

     

    5/18/09: Texans G Brandon Walker is arrested for DUI.

     

    5/14/09: Bills FB Corey McIntyre is arrested for misdemeanor exposure of his sexual organs.

     

    5/6/09: Bucs WR Anthony Mix is indicted for having sex with a minor.

     

    5/3/09: Saints WR Biren Ealy and TE Kolomona Kapanui are arrested on various charges, including obscenity, disturbing the peace by being drunk in public, and lewd conduct.

     

    4/25/09: Chargers LB Shaun Phillips is charged with misdemeanor battery.

     

    4/11/09: Bills S Donte Whitner is arrested for aggravated disorderly conduct and resisting arrest.

     

    4/5/09: Bengals CB Leon Hall is arrested and charged with DUI.

     

    4/2/09: Browns WR Donte’ Stallworth is charged with DUI manslaughter.

     

    3/24/09: Chiefs RB Larry Johnson pleads guilty to two counts of disturbing the peace.

     

    3/21/09: Raiders OT Cornell Green is arrested for aggravated battery with a deadly weapon.

     

    3/13/09: Chiefs CB David Macklin is arrested for DUI.

     

    3/12/09: Redskins DT Albert Haynesworth is charged with two misdemeanors arising from a December auto accident that left a 25-year-old man with a new hip.

     

    3/9/09: Jaguars WR Matt Jones is charged with contempt of court.

     

    3/5/09: Bills RB Marshawn Lynch pleads guilty to misdemeanor firearm possession.

     

    3/1/09: Broncos WR Brandon Marshall is arrested for disorderly conduct.

     

    2/27/09: Free-agent WR Reggie Williams is arrested for DUI and possession of marijuana.

     

    2/14/09: Steelers K Jeff Reed is arrested for disorderly conduct and criminal mischief.

     

    2/13/09: Jaguars S Gerald Sensabaugh is arrested for driving on a suspended license.

     

    2/12/09: It is first reported that 49ers LB Roderick Green was arrested on February 2 on misdemeanor charges of possession of marijuana, unlawfully carrying a weapon, reckless driving and interfering with the duties of a police officer.

     

    2/11/09: Bills RB Marshawn Lynch is charged with misdemeanor possession of a concealed firearm.

     

    2/8/09: Colts DT Darrell Reid is arrested on charges of disorderly conduct and trespassing.

     

    2/5/09: Chiefs TE Michael Merritt is arrested for suspicion of marijuana possession.

    Should an app that points out DUI checkpoints be illegal?

    in Off the Wall Archives

    Posted

    How successful are they as far as the number of people arrested vs the number of cars that actually go through? Or is it more of a presence thing? Reason I ask is I read an article when I lived in Orange county about how many people they actually pulled over and how many they arrested. It was from a checkpoint that I had gone through and there where shitloads of cars in that backup. I was surprised how low the results were.

     

    Not all the cars in line get checked. When the cars start to get backed up we perform a 'flush' and let everyone through. Once the last car is through and there is a break in traffic, the head of the checkpoint will say we are stopping the next car that is coming through. The reason why we wait for a break in traffic is so we can't be accused of profiling vehicles.

     

    I've always felt that checkpoints are more of a presence thing. The stats will vary depending on where the checkpoint is held, but typically the stats aren't as high as people would think. If you have a checkpoint in a low income/high crime area, you are going to see a lot of unsafe vehicles, faulty equipment, suspended license, no insurance, etc... If you hold a checkpoint in a higher income/low crime area, you'll have the same amount of contacts but won't have anything to write them for.

    Should an app that points out DUI checkpoints be illegal?

    in Off the Wall Archives

    Posted

    I know that while living in Buffalo, and down here in Atlanta, the police have officers setup at the checkpoints JUST TO WATCH FOR cars that quickly turn around or avoid the checkpoint, and then they go after them. Usually, the people who are in a hurry to avoid the checkpoint are the ones they are actually after. You're better off taking the 2 minutes to hand the guy your license and keep on rolling.

     

    I wouldn't say just to watch for cars that turn around. However, we do put a vehicle near the entrance of the chute to go after cars that try to avoid the check point. And in my experience, most of the stops end up in tickets and arrests.

     

    If you noticed I said earlier that I felt the app should not be illegal. I also feel that checkpoints are ok. Now having said that from what I've heard, at least when I lived in souther CA, those checkpoints typically didn't result in too many arrests for DUI seeing people do see them ahead of time and can bail out of them.

     

    The public demands that checkpoints be fair and impartial. If we have a nighttime checkpoint in a high crime area, the next checkpoint needs to be during the daytime in a low crime area. It's not as simple as setting up a checkpoint down the street from your local bar every weekend.

     

    Isn't this basically the same issue that some states have with radar detectors? Essentially you're circumventing law enforcement.

     

    Think about it from a different perspective. If you're out for a nice drive with your family on Saturday, maybe heading out to dinner, do your really want to risk getting creamed by some hammered moron. Especially if the idiot got drunk because he had an app?

     

    I personally don't have a problem with people having a radar detector or using an app like Trapster. If i see that one of my radar spots gets listed on Trapster, i just move to another location. The ultimate goal is for safe driving and if an app tells them i am sitting there, then they are going to drive safer. As far as radar detectors go, if the officer is properly running radar/lidar that radar detector is worthless. I don't 'transmit' on my radar until until after i get a good visual speed estimate of the vehicle. By the time the violator hears his detector going off, I'm already locked in.

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