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OK here is my attempt at it.. Original Post pretty darn good I think, but I see some differences that I gotta fix. Time will tell, gotta make this 53 guys i guess:
QB (3): Ryan Fitzpatrick, Tyler Thigpen, Brad Smith
RB (3): Fred Jackson, CJ Spiller, Johnny White or Tashard Choice
FB (1): Corey McIntyre
WR (6): Stevie Johnson, David Nelson, Donald Jones, TJ Graham, Derek Hagan, Marcus Easley
TE (2): Scott Chandler, Mike Caussin or Fendi Onobun
OT (4): Chris Hairston, Erik Pears, Cordy Glenn, Zebrie Sanders
OG (4): Andy Levitre, Chad Rinehart, Kraig Urbik, Mark Asper or Michael Jasper
OC (1): Eric Wood
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DE (4): Mario Williams, Shawne Merriman, Mark Anderson, Chris Kelsay
DT (5): Marcel Dareus, Kyle Williams, Dwan Edwards, Torrell Troup, Alex Carrington (basically doubles as 5th DT and 5th DE)
OLB (4): Nick Barnett, Kirk Morrison, Nigel Bradham, Tank Carder
ILB (2): Kelvin Sheppard, Chris White
CB (7): Aaron Williams, Stephon Gilmore, Terrence McGee, Drayton Florence, Leodis McKelvin, Ron Brooks, Justin Rogers,
S (4): Jairus Byrd, George Wilson, Da'Norris Searcy, Bryan Scott
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ST (3): Rian Lindell, Brian Moorman, Garrison Sanborn
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Ok This keeps our best 53, we have the money. Why not just keep our best 53?
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In that video you see his eye black? "Why so serious" haha
and he wears #13 sweet!
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I wanted Glenn!!! Oh yeah
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Safe to say Bills weren't gonna take Wolf
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really hoping bills have a good tackle to draft. No matter what there is going to be some great players remaining tonight
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I thought Coples was a much better fit a 3-4 end. He lacks the speed to play 4-3 end, but its a long and strong player. Still likely to bust, but he is a much better 3-4 guy than 4-3.
i agree, he is a good fit for a 3/4 end. i think he doesn't have the pass rush ability of a true 4/3 end. He is a good interior player and should be pretty decent at DE in a 3/4
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You do know Wilson is 31 and would not be on anyone's "top 5" list of safeties in the NFL, right? Barron has that potential, and would bring some big time hitting to the table as well. He fits everything Buddy looks for in a draft pick -- consistent performance against big time competition -- and also fits the "impact player" requirement of a #10 pick.
He is certainly a top 5 SS in my eyes. Name 5 you would rather have
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Last season he played at 305 and was able to handle the weight perfectly fine. It allows the the ends to be Williams, Kelsay, Anderson and Merriman, and gives the Bills an option to draft possibly one more for depth.
IMO, moving in side helps A LOT with depth inside. It also allows us to possibly get rid of Dwan Edwards, who may not work out in a 4-3. So the insides would be Dareus, Williams, Johnson, Heard, Carrington and Troup. Their is multiple options with these guys to effectively stop the run or pass and not see too much of a drop off in production.
its been my opinion that heard and troupe are less a fit in the 4-3
You neglect to mention Spencer Johnson...With a move back to the 4-3 (as a base, not just a set) Johnson's stock rises. That's where he had his best seasons in Minnesota, rotating with the Williams'. I think this puts him back in the mix as the #1 back up @ DT. Troop needs to prove something, big time, or he's a goner. I really like Heard and have always liked Carrington, even more so @ 305lbs. He didn't seem to lose a step with putting 20lbs. since he was drafted.
The way I see it is Troop and Edwards being on the bubble. As Edwards is a true 3-4 DE, he's looking like he has the shortest leash, IMHO.
Williams, Dareus, Johnson, Heard & Carrington...if we keep 5, but Johnson and Carrington provide flexibility as gap fillers @ DE too. Also, any development out of Jasper remains to be seen...just sayn'.
I'm not sure if you realize this but edwards played DT over johnson last year in 4 man fronts. It is because he is way better than johnson at DT
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Not feeling comfy at #10. The consensus seems to be that it's Reiff, Floyd, or Keuchly at #10.
Based on Buddy's history, He does not reach. At least not with a top ten pick. And, one thing I've said umpteen times. At number 10, you gotta come in and start from day one and play at a high level. So if all three are there when the Bills are on the clock at #10, which one?
Of the three, the one with the most qustion marks is clearly Floyd. You see him going anywhere from 10 to 20. He has some baggage, and if you plug him to the Bills and he must start out of the gate and produce... I don't see it happening... especially when Chan has to work Spiller more into the mix... it means less targets for a rookie WR... and especially with Stevie garnering around 10 targets/game, I don't see Floyd with more than 5 to 6 targets/game. You don't draft a WR at #10 to get 6 potential touches per game. So, I rule out Floyd.
Reiff seems to have his critics too, but nowhere near the level of Floyd's critics. Some say he's a RT, some say he has short arms. I don't know much about Reiff. And, my read on Buddy is that at #10, any player, especially a LT better be special. Last year, Tyron Smith & Nate Solder were the first OTs off the board at #9 & #17. But both are RTs. And, Carami & Sherrod came off at #29 & #32, but again, both are RTs. Costanza was the only Tackle drafted in the 1st round that ended up playing LT, and he came of the board at #22. So, how does Reiff compare to Costanza? The thing that concerns me about Reiff is, coming out of the Iowa program, two of his predecessors at LT have not panned out at LT... Robert Gallery and Brian Bulaga. Gallery was supposed to be all world but ended up being a guard, and for such a high pick, big waste. Bulaga is still at RT after two years, even though he was drafted at LT and the Packers have a need there. Again... #10 has to be plugged in as the starter from day one. Can Reiff? I think so, but what player can't be put at LT for the Bills and function to some degree? They've functioned with Bell, Scott, Hairston, Levitre over the past few seasons. So, yeah Reiff should be able to come in and out perform them all. But that ain't saying much. And, at #10 is that a good value? Dunno. Hope Buddy does. I also think a LT taken in the second round at #41 could play better than anyone the Bills have had there the past few seasons. Saffold and Veldheer were both second rounders last year and ended up being starting left tackles for the Rams and Raiders and seem to have bright futures. So... round two may be a viable option for LT.
Keuchly seems to have no critics. From what I've heard or read, it's all good. And, don't think that OLB aint a position of need, and seriously. There's no question that he can come in and start at OLB from day one and clearly out perform either Morrison or Barnett. He might even be in the Clay Matthews stratosphere.
So... I know the Bills sorely need a presence at LT. But, from a value standpoint I don't see how the #10 pick cannot be Keuchly if all three are there at #10. He's a sure thing. He would be the icing on the cake for a Bills defense that has been upgraded significantly and transitioning back the the 4-3. This significant upgrade to the defense will have an immediate impact on the offense... more than anyone realizes. Better field position, more turnovers, less pressure on the offense to score, more offensive possesions.
Great post! i agree, i think it should prolly be keuchly
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http://predictpick.nfl.com/?icampaign=PTP_ROS
Here is my top 10:
1 Andrew Luck
2 Robert G3
3 Justin Blackmon
4 Trent Richardson
5 Quintin Coples
6 Matt Kalil
7 Melvin Ingram
8 Ryan Tannehill
9 Morris Claiborne
10 Luke Kuechly
Good luck everyone! how did you fill it out?
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The Draft is only 2 weeks away. I know many knowledgeable people on this board want a LT, or WR as there #1 pick. I for one do not understand this. Buffalos offense last year was not that bad and statistically they were middle of the road. But on defense they were historically bad. On defense I have faith in 5 players. Williams x2, Dareus Barnett, and Bird. I have hope for Aaron Williams, Kelvin Sheppard, Justin Rogers, Martin Anderson and Kellen Heard. Beyond these names the cover is bare on defense. I have no hope in Merriman, Kelsay, Wilson, Edwards, Moats, Battan, White, Mcgee, Florence. I left Leodis out intentionally if Buffalo lets him he will be the AFC represenative in the pro bowl for special teams next year (just my opinion). Some of these players have been here for years and are proven loosers. It is time to add real talent to the defense (i.e. Mario Williams). This is why I think that when it is Buffalo turn to pick in each round. They should look at who is the highest rated defensive player on the board and pick him. With that being said. I would like to predict that Buffalo picks Luke Kuechly at #10 when they pick.
Buffalo has some real talent on offense Fred, CJ, Andy Levitre, S. Johnson.
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Is there anyone that can provide a compelling reason(s) as to why we should take a project QB? I know Thigpen looked like crap last year and Brad Smith is our "3rd stringer"; I am not looking for that. I want to know why it is a good idea to bring in a project QB via the draft to work with at the expense of using that pick on BPA in a given round or a player that will actually have a chance at contributing.
A couple recent examples.
AJ Feeley - drafted in the 5th round in 2001; groomed by Philly and traded for Miami's second rounder in 2005. TJ Housh, Alex Bannister and Eric Johnson were notables drafted after AJ. They took Reggie Brown in 2005.
Kevin Kolb - drafted 2nd round in 2007, groomed by Philly & traded for DRC and traded for Arizona's second rounder this year. Eric Weddle, Zach Miller, Sidney Rice, LaMar Woodley, Steve Smith (Giants), Ryan Kalil all came in the second round after him.
Take a look at your top 10 guys in the NFL right now (individual rankings don't matter):
Brady
Eli Manning
Peyton Manning
Philip Rivers
Michael Vick
Matt Ryan
Aaron Rodgers
Ben Roethlisberger
Drew Brees
Cam Newton/Matt Stafford
I also understand that all first rounders aren't HOFers and there are busts littered throughout NFL history. I find it to be a better investment to grab your back up and third stringer through FA. Grab a Rex Grossman, a David Carr, a Kyle Orton, a Kelly Holcumb, hell even a Fitz in FA and use the draft choice to grab a player in another position who will actually help your team. QBs are so over scouted nowadays, that your chances of finding an outside of a first round QB gem is far greater than any other position. Usually somewhere around pick 20 (not a hard 20) the chances of you finding your franchise guy go down tremendously. Players like Terrel Davis, Kyle Williams, Michale Bush, Carl Nix, Pierre Garcon, Peyton Hillis, Jamaal Charles, Kraig Urbik, Mike Wallace, and Elvis Dummervil are all mid-to-later round picks. Players at other positions have a better chance at having an impact than Kevin Kolb, Aj Feeley, RJ, Matt Cassel, Scott Mitchell, etc...
I get it that Brady and Montana were hidden in later rounds, but that was like 25 years between. Romo was an UDFA and Brees was a second rounder. There are a few exceptions, but they are few and far between.
teams like Philly who always get close but are a player or 2 away could actually make it if they didn't focus on developing a QB. A Kyle Williams would be a much better fit for Philly's D than AJ Feeley or Kevin Kolb carrying a clipboard....
While I would not like to see a reach for a qb, I will make a couple points that might make sense. maybe not. first off due to the salary restraints that the Bills now face, a project qb is more than likely the only way the team can realistically improve the overall talent of the position. I don't think that they are going to sign a free agent qb anytime soon. Anyone good enough to unseat Fitz is going to have to come through the draft. Secondly the Bills have 10 draft picks, it is conceivable that backup qb is a top 10 need on the team. SO it makes sense to draft for need to me, which is why i'm ok with a qb that is taken. Not that I like Trent Edwards, but he is a good example of a qb that seemed like he wasn't a reach when he was selected. I would be fine with something like that. I would rather have a young trent right now than thigpen. not the trent that suffered one too many hits to the head though. I don't like the idea of drafting a guy before he should be drafted though. But who really knows how all the teams felt about the player. If you really like a qb that you think is flying under the radar, you can be suckered into reaching for them cause you know that all it takes is one other team interested... Its got to be the most important position on the team. If I were GM I would have a secret philosophy to draft a qb every single season until I coulnd't fit another good one on the team. I think that Belicheck would agree, man I hate him though. One more point, if the rookie qb is better than Thigpen, he could save the team 2-3 million per year. It might be the difference between signing byrd and/or levitre back,,
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I wish the mods would read the posts through before they merge topics.. This really has nothing to do with this Topics original posters analysis. Might as well just clump everything together... On my day off, I must have spent 40 minutes creating this topic and it gets lumped into this post? I actually was enjoying the conversation it was generating, but now it disappears. In the original post, besides QB, TE, and RB I have posted nothing to do with the top player at each position. This new topic it is now found in has nothing to do with who gets cut, but is about who he thinks is going to start... My topic was labeled A LOOK AT THE ENTIRE ROSTER, who stays, who goes, and why... Which is an analysis of WHO GETS CUT. The subject it is now under is Who Starts?? I post here about 10 days a year because the mods are doing such a horrible job. It's even difficult to troll these days. Its sad cause I actually research things through and create in depth articles almost every time I have EVER posted a subject.. Agree or disagree with what I write.. I'm done with it, back to trolling. I'll post my stuff on other message boards. I'm not trying to be a whiner, its just that if you don't speak how you feel then nothing ever changes.. Just read the posts in full before you lump subjects together that shouldn't be lumped. It happens here every single day... For the record this is the first time I have ever complained but have felt this way so many times...
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I see us carrying 4DTs (Williams, Dareus, Troup, Heard), 4 DEs (Anderson, Williams, Merriman, and a draft pick), and a swingman, that being Carrington. An yes, Edwards is light years ahead of them, especially in salary.
So you think that Kelsay, Edwards, and Johnson get cut then? Interesting.. How many LB do you think that they keep?
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To me, it is a matter of numbers, roster spots, age, and money. I don't see how they keep Edwards, although he is a decent player and could easily play DT in a 4-3. At almost 4 million a year, I just don't see the snaps for him to make it worth it. To me, it's the difference between playing Mark Anderson 7 mil a year or 4 mil a year by releasing Edwards (and then having to pay another back-up role player at another position, like, say, Derek Hagan, 1 mil).
Mario and Anderson are sure things at end. Kelsay and Merriman are sure things at end (if only because Merriman's money is almost all guaranteed now).
Kyle and Dareus are sure things at DT. To me, both Troup and Carrington are sure things because of their age, potential, draft spot, Nix guys and low money. Troup will play DT and Carrington is valuable as either DT/DE. I also think Spencer Johnson is almost a sure thing because he has versatility too. It's possible Heard would get the nod over him to save another 3 mil. But with Johnson, that's 9 defensive linemen which I think are making a total of 54 mil this year (I saw that figure from another source).
Add 4 for Edwards and it's 58 mil, without a true position to play. Even without Anderson I considered Edwards on the bubble. Carrington is going to get some snaps. With his and Spencer Johnson's ability to play both inside and outside, and I also expect Mario to play a little inside on passing downs if Merriman has anything left in the tank, I think Edwards is something we do not need and cannot afford and his 4 million would be wisely spent elsewhere.
I agree with what you said about Edwards and Johnson, if you just switched Johnson and Edwards around... There is no incentive to keep Spencer in my opinion, they make almost the same amount of money, play exactly the same position, Spencer only has one year left and less of a cap hit if cut, and Dwan is just SO much better of a player, Spencer and Dwan are the same size but Spencer NEVER pushed Dwan for playing time as far as I could see. Dwan played DT in most of our 4 man pass rushing fronts last year, not Johnson... I also see no reason to have positional limits on money spent, and I also would rather not have players like Derek Hagan on the team if it means we have to cut someone who will instantly get picked up and paid more than he was making here, like Edwards would. If I were GM, I would keep all of the best players as long as the team is under the cap and only worry about cutting guys after they have been replaced by better players. I am a total non-believer in cutting players just to create cap room, or because I think that there is too much money tied into one area. It makes sense to cut players once you replace them with someone better.. Unless you are on the cusp of signing someone and need room... As of right now the best D lineman on the team are- in order if healthy: Mario Williams, Marcell Dareus, Kyle Williams, Shawn Merriman, Mark Anderson, Chris Kelsay, Dwan Edwards, Alex Carrington, Kellan Heard, and then either Torell Troupe or Spencer Johnson. Unless they add a guy, it is more than likely nobody else. The fact that Merriman and Scott can also play LB might allow them to keep between 9-11 D- lineman... I figure they will keep a couple more Lineman and a couple less LB this season.
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I noticed 6 DTs when I bet we carry no more than 4 on the active roster. Williams, Dareus, and Troup will probably be our 1st 3, and Heard or Price our #4. I like Johnson, but not as a backup at his salary.
Why do you think that there will only be 4 DT? I assume there will without any doubt be 5. I wish I had as much faith in Troup as you. I see Edwards as LIGHTYEARS ahead of all of the other guys...
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Dwan Edwards is a long shot?...how bout most likely
I disagree, why would they cut him? Perhaps over Spencer Johnson? Dwan started over him at DE, he provides great depth across the entire front 4. When they were in a 4 man front he was lined up next to dareus. He does all the dirty stuff very well and he should be an axcellent 3 technique DT. The way I see things, he is not even in the conversation other than on this board for some reason.. It doesn't make sense to me. If they didn't have Johnson to cut, and they had someone better than Edwards, I might think that they could possibly for some unknown reason keep Troupe or Heard over him but I don't see that happening... This team is building it up through the D-line and Edwards is under contract through 2013. Please make sense of this statement I see from so many posters???
I disagree with the "true #1 receiver" bit. I think Stevie is our main man for a while. I also am pretty sure that Moats is going to make it. He played well when at outside linebacker and now we have ample reason to put him there.
What I meant was that I think they need a guy to start. Consider Stevie what you want, I said the whole time that He was our #1 while Lee did nothing but some people called Lee the #1. Bottom Line is the starters are considered the #1/#2 guys, and I think that they could use someone to start and I love the depth... I'd like to see Moats make it, I like him. I just don't see a fit at OLB and no room at DE
looks like we have to cut kelsey
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