FranchiseSavior

I was just coming to say congrats. Hopefully we can do it again in January. Hopefully we don't self-destruct yet again

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It mens Josh has played his absolute best and it wasn't enough. While Lamar has played his absolute worse and we haven't seen his best..

Josh's team failed him but when I rattle off 7 mistakes that Lamars teammates had and they're excuses.

Ill ask you the same thing I ask NewEra. If Lamar has played his worse in the playoffs and Josh jas played his absolute best and they have both accomplished the same things than what does that say about Josh? Does that intimate that if Lamar plays a little bit better he would win a SB while Josh has already hit his ceiling? But neither has the ultimate goal. Ok Josh has 1 more AFCCG loss than Lamar

With all of Josh's astronomical stats and if he's this elite playoff QB what has that gotten him? If we take your narrative what does that say about Josh? He has played his best ball in the playoffs and has nothing to show for it. Meanwhile Lamar has choked (your words not mine) and has accomplished as much as the guy that has been at his best.

Its 6 on one hand, half dozen on the other. Both are elite QBs. Just as Josh has guys wanting to run through a wall for him so does Lamar. Lamar's teams all gush over him. All you hear them talk about is 8. Just as I assume those guys all talk about Josh. There are 3 guys on this team today because they want to play with Lamar (their words not mines) DHop, Henry, and Jaire Alexander. Both those guys have traits that make them great, both came into the league with major weaknesses to their games and have work their tails off to make those weaknesses a strength. We can sit here and go back a forth about who's better but the fact is that they both are great. Both their teams have come up short in the playoffs and neither one of them has won or even played in the SB. All those stats aren't going to mean anything if they dont win a SB. If Lamar doesn't win a SB it is always going be he couldn't get over the hump. If Josh doesnt win a SB nobody is going to say Josh was a great playoff QB. They are going to say he didn’t get it done.

I don't agree thats what Lamar has done. Has Lamar had turnover issue sure I also think he's played well enough to win those games. Take last seasons game. The int was the wr running the wrong route ans the fumble was Lamar trying to make something out of nothing. People naturally look at the TOs but Lamar was brilliant in that game. The other caveat to this is the team as a whole doesn't play well in the playoffs. You look at the Lamar TOs and says he chokes while overlooking all the other mistakes in the game. You had Derrick Hebry drop a pass wide open up the sideline without a Bill within 10 yards of him. There's a good chance he houses that with his speed. MAndrews drops a 1st down that would have kept the drive alive and we had to settle for a FG. Ravens are driving and Mandrews fumbles in Bills territory. Lamar fights through all of that scores the potential game tying TD only to have Mandrews drop the 2 pt conversion that would have tied the game. There are at least 3 more mistakes that others have made and Lamar gets the brunt of it.

I didn't hear a have a good Sunday.

I think we will be fine. Travis Jones will be a load inside. He started great last season had a really bad ankle sprain that lingered all season. He's in a contract year and he's fully healthy so he should be an absolute load. The run defense is a bit of an unknown as they're a questions of how we replace the recently retired Michael Pierce and how well Trenton Simpson respond this season. We signed John Jenkins but we don't know what he'll be and Simpson was bad with his run fits last season causing him to be benched late in the season.

If you took the time to read you'd know I was replying to the guy who was saying that the Bills Lost to the Chiefs in Arrowheas without their 2 best Secondary players. You're correct just like it wasn't the Bills problem and not an excuse from the Ravens that they were missing wr1. it's not the Chiefs problem and shouldn't be an excuse that the Bills were missing their top 2 secondary players.

My son and I was at the Buffalo/Ravens game last season at M&T Bank Stadium. As we are walking into the stadium a group of drunk fans all with Bills jerseys on started cursing at my son and began yelling "Let's Go Buffalo" in his direction. I just smiled and said wait until the games over and see how they are. After a thorough butt whopping low and behold guess who we run into coming out of the Stadium. My son looks smiles and said Let's Go Buffalo and they again began cursing out a 12 year old. I don't thing those few fans represent all of Bills Mafia. There are a few of thise in every fan base. Of they go heavy the Ravens aren't going to stay with 3 safetys they'll definitely match up. However I think Starks is going to be a big part of this game. He'll be moved around also. Will be a fun matchup for sure. That was in that thread.

There is an argument to be made that Burrow is the best in the business. I dint agree with it but he is definitely one of the best out there. All time QBs over comes whoever is in front of them. Is Josh still a turnover machine or has he overcome that label?

Warren Moon isn't an all time playoff QB like y I 7 have anoited Josh. Dan Marino went to a SB and Josh hasn't. Dan Marino is mentioned as the greatest QB to have never won a SB. John Elway one 2 SBs which cemented his legacy. Many of your fans remind me that the Bills beat the Ravens in the playoffs and not one mentions that the Ravens played without wr1 and wr2 missed a good portion of the 2nd half. But we will feel sorry for you guys because you were "missing your 2 best secondary players" Every fan base thinks the refs cheated them. We were called for illegal formation 4 times in the season opener last season while the Chiefs tackles were allowed to line up in the back field. Nobody Cares Wprk Harder.

Kyle Hamilton allows us to do that because he can play LB also. Jes truly a unicorn. He's been voted tue best deep safety, the best box safety, the best blitzing safety. He truly can do it all.

Once again all time playoff QBs usually at least goes to the SB. Josh and Lamar has the exact amount of SB appearances.

And this is all I'm saying. If Lamar's a choker because he hasn't won it all when they both have run u0 against the same team and had the exact same outcome then what are you really saying about your own QB. I thought this was a message board. I haven't called anyone names but I've neen called names. I haven't said a bad thing about any member of the Bills but I've had names called at the Ravens and specifically Lamar. I see you guys don't want to talk ball with anyone other then those that share your same opinion. This will be my last post. Good luck Sunday.

Josh hasnt won anything either. You guys keep labeling Lamar as a choker when Josh hasn't gotten it done either All time playoff performer without a ring? Got it.

Josh, Tua, amd Lamar all have something in common. They never reached a SB. He and Josh has the same number of SB appearances.

By your level of thinking Trent Dilfer has to be talked about as one of the better QBs and Dan Marino shouldn't. Gotta question for you. Who's the better QB Trent Dilfer or Jim Kelly? Josh, Tua, amd Lamar all have something in common. They never reached a SB.

Actually he has made the AFCCG and again the same thing that happened to Josh is what happened to Lamar. The both lost to KC. I guess you'll now tell me that Josh was a better loser than Lamar. As I said the both of them are in the same boat. Trying to get over the hump and win the SB.

There is nothing he can do. Some people just can't let go of things. Lamar can win title and be SB MVP and it'll be he has all this help and his WR are always wide open.

The man threw for over 4100 yards last season while flirting with the best passer rating in league history.

The Ravens as a team ran for 176 yards in the second game. No it wasn't quite the 271 they ran for in the 1st game but they still ran the ball well. I dint think it was a fluke I think the Ravens run game is a bad matchup for most teams in the league. Most teams in the league construct their roster to stop teams from beating them through the air. The Ravens are in of a few teams that want to run the ball. Im not going to go the route and insult you but I dont think your fluke claim has much merit. Ironically there are some Bills fans on this site who feel the same way.

Ricard doesn't run routes he probably has less than 20 rec in a 8 year career. Not having Ricard will force teams to play us more honest. The rule of thumb around the league is Ricard will take you to the ball. With him being out we shall see.