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Posts posted by Gavin in Va Beach
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This has been an uncomfortable thread to read for many reasons. I'm trying to make sense of it.
1. Raw meat to the professional outrage seekers. You know who you are. Be better than that.
2. Much respect to Ezra 'Pancho Billa' Castro. By all accounts he was a good man who was a fan of our beloved Buffalo Bills. His creativity on his fandom was entertaining and made him beloved as well. When we learned of his battle, it made him more endearing because Buffalo and it's fans love to support the underdog facing great odds. That people in the Buffalo organization supported him is commendable and worthy of our appreciation. May Ezra rest in peace.
3. Much respect to Jim Kelly, for giving it his all while quarterbacking our beloved team and for his own battle facing great odds. That people in the Buffalo organization supported him is commendable and worthy of our appreciation. May Jim continue to win his battle for as long as he can.
4. Both Castro and Kelly are human beings, and as such have their flaws, same as you and me. Some flaws become known through the media or speculated on through rumor and 2nd hand accounts, and are used to judge. Some judge more harshly than others and for reasons unknown. It's an unfortunate by-product of our flawed humanity. It would be better if we could be more forgiving, or not so quick to find a negative in what may be difficult circumstances for someone.
5. We are all Bills Brothers and Sisters. Cut some slack when you can.
Go Bills!
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3 minutes ago, LOVEMESOMEBILLS said:
Not if the NFL knew they didn't collude. Proving their case in court would have put an end to it without the bad blood with anyone. That would've been saved for Kaep because he couldn't prove what he had been accusing the NFL of doing for a couple of years. In some cases it makes sense for a company to settle with an employee, with as much attention as this case has brought and the accusations this wasn't one of them.
Agree to disagree. They would have won the court battle but risked looking very bad going against Kaepernick who enjoys broad support in the black/civil rights community.
A small settlement bought peace with Kaepernick, limited agitating the black/civil rights community, and allowed the NFL to start making other moves to bring back fans on both sides of the debate.
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2 minutes ago, LOVEMESOMEBILLS said:
No way, with what was at stake the NFL would've gladly spent a 100 million on this just finally beat & shut up the biggest thorn in their side in decades. People like Jerry Jones & Robert Kraft would've made sure of it.
No way. The NFL would have crushed the suit in court, but it would have been bad PR for them regardless, not to mention created some bad blood with the Players union. Making it go away with minimal publicity was the right choice.
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1 minute ago, LOVEMESOMEBILLS said:
The NFL settling the lawsuit on teams colluding in not signing him says you are way off base on this one. In reality, which side is the one having difficulty accepting this? The facts say one thing, but you keep hanging on to the he's not good enough, which is about the most laughable argument you could make. The NFL is littered with horrible QBs.
Disagree. The settlement was chump change to the NFL. If Kaepernick, who has built a reputation as someone who fights for what he believes, really believed he was being blackballed and thought he could prove it then he never would have settled. This settlement was more of a way to save face for both parties and to keep legal fees from becoming more than they already were.
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4 minutes ago, Paulus said:
It was over the top due to cancer awareness, which is reasonable.
I think we can all agree ***** cancer.
Fighting it myself. Totally agree
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1 minute ago, Freddie's Dead said:
While I completely disagree with Kaepernick's protest, it's a crime for the NFL to continue to blackball him, while allowing all kinds of lowlifes (lowlives?) to continue to play. The whole "media circus" thing is garbage. Would the Jets or Giants be more of a media circus than they are already? The fact that this guy can't get a sniff when far inferior QB's are being signed is a travesty.
I don't believe the NFL is 'blackballing' him. That would be all the owners got together and with the approval of the NFL offices voted/agreed no one would hire him, opening them up to a massive civil suit. The fact that Kaepernick and I forget the other player, took a small settlement to withdraw their collusion (or blackball) claim means they knew there was no real evidence to back it up. The settlement was chump change to the NFL, who likely only paid it get rid of the bad PR.
I believe there are a few, if not more, team owners who would sign him, but ultimately don't want to deal with a possible backlash from their fan base and the headache that would result. That's not blackballing, but a reasonable business decision.
Honestly though, Miami should sign him. They are already a dumpster fire with low fan support and the headache from bad press couldn't get much worse. Plus they have a bonafides to justify this with their minority ownership group that includes Gloria Estefan and Serena Williams. They could spin this as a 2nd chance for Kaep, give some attention to the social justice angle in positive way, and create some buzz to distract from how bad the team is.
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2 minutes ago, Hedge said:
Translation: "Please don't suicide me!"
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12 minutes ago, Nester said:
I heard he wants $20 mil.
lol
Oh ok, no one wants to sign him then because he is delusional.
Seriously, if he truly wanted a chance, he should sign for the vet minimum with a ton of incentives. Make his play earn the money. And earmarking some of that money to a police charity wouldn't hurt either.
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4 minutes ago, WideNine said:
Well well... as a wise man once said, "You are either part of the solution, or you are part of the problem".
The way things are going history may very well pin-point the moment the Bills franchise started to turn the ship around and become more successful as the moment Vonte walked off the team. So whatever... not really interested in what he has to say; there is a right way and a wrong way to do things when you are on a team and we all know where Vonte lands on that score.
That and when they traded Dareus. That showed that they were not willing to tolerate a player who didn't have his head right and play up to their potential. Still makes me sad though, Dareus has the skills to be a HOF defensive tackle, but he's too much of a chucklehead with no inner hunger to be great.
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The Bills have opened the campaign by setting their in-state rivals on fire, marching 369 miles by night from Buffalo to East Rutherford, New Jersey, where the sleeping Jets were camped a week ago. Tired by their on-foot journey, Buffalo fell into a 16-0 hole against Sam Darnold, Le'Veon Bell and a Gang Green squad that generated a dash of playoff buzz in August. The Bills would not be held down, though, squelching the Jets in a blaze of holy fire, leaving their AFC East rivals banged, tattered and nursing strange viruses.
Effin brilliant!
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2 minutes ago, Doc said:
What a crock of Vontae. The Bills had just come off a playoff season under a new regime.
1. That was his wife being quoted.
2. We kinda stumbled into the playoffs, and lost a winnable game to Jacksonville.
3. The culture of the team/organization had only just begun to change using McDermott's 'process'. There were still a lot of less-than-professional players on the team.
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I laughed, I cried, it was so much better than Cats. I'm going to read it again, and again.
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16 hours ago, BuffaloBillies said:
Bruce Smith in his prime. Hey, you said it was magic land.
So much this. If we had Bruce right now, we'd have a post on the board asking how many shutouts do we think the defense could get this season.
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4 minutes ago, LeGOATski said:
Well, they didn't prior to Beane/McDermott
Agreed. Ever since Ralph fired Polian over hurt feelings or whatever that situation was, Buffalo was a rudderless ship. Beane and McDermott, at long last, makes me feel like the Bills have their &^%$ wired tight and are a professional organization again.
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Not a 2nd, maybe a 3rd
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Not bad for a Hollywood degenerate...
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10 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said:
WeHo Daily?!? Did no one stop and think that name through???
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27 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said:
This pretty much sums up my experience with Jets fans over the last 25 years. There isnt a franchise I like less because of their fans. It seems like there is a subset of Long Island born UB kids that find their way to Bills home games every year and act like total jerks. Not surprising the best player in their franchise history is a fur coat wearing, panty hose endorsing, suzy kolber sexual harrassing, drunk.
FTFY
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1 minute ago, Marv's Neighbor said:
Can't do that in Virginia. Our Indians were apparently not good a math, therefore, no casinos.
Not yet but I hear they're working on it
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19 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said:
This is amazing! It's like I've raised the dead! I have Golden wheels, Gavin AND Ann all in one thread?!?!
UNLIMITED POWER
MUAHAHAHHA...er uh...ahem.
Indeed, now whatever happened to that JSP guy?
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21 minutes ago, B-Man said:
Yay, my tax dollars are going to fund an absolutely useless new government position!
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I was going to ask for a mea culpa for calling you a schmuck once, but I've changed my mind
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8 minutes ago, keepthefaith said:
Paper ballots.
and Voter ID
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18 hours ago, B-Man said:
Those never get old. "Wait for Rachel Maddow. She'll know what to do."
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Democrat Debates
in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
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The thing is, since it's primary season they are all lurching left to curry favor from the progressive wing, for which could provide a small advantage in the primary polls. Whether or not they believe most of the crap they are spewing is almost besides the point.
In the general election, they will make a hard turn back towards the center, hoping to get the moderate voter who hasn't been paying much attention to what they were saying before. The media will help them appear more centrist and won't hold them accountable to what they said previously, because #orangeman bad.