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2 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:
Don’t let having no clue how this technology works stop attempts at debunking claims….. tell us more about how it REALLY works… 😂
you tell me how drones are controlled without satellites from hundreds of miles away. baited breath....still waiting for evidence of your expertise. here's your big chance.
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3 minutes ago, LeviF said:
No, just the usual suspects wanting to ban other political parties whilst unironically calling other people nazis.
not trying to ban anyone. just hoping normal Americans come to their senses and make these scumbag, losers the fringe group they should be...go ahead, call me a shitlib again and give orders to your tribe here....
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3 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said:
Since you're the only one in here who I don't have on ignore I'm assuming this thread isn't about this guy, is it?
CNN.. "so called"
same mental illness, different uniform
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sadly, it takes a shiteload of morons being fooled for this plan to work. Sadly, the US has that right now.
10 hours ago, BillStime said:Yes - they are using religion to attract ordinary people.
these people aren'''''t religious. they've redefined that word to fit their selfish plans.
10 minutes ago, LeviF said:The actual Taliban won a 20-year war and runs Afghanistan now.
One can hope, I suppose.
the resident nazi speaks
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38 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said:
your propagandists ride in on their black horse. " refusal to turn on" despite the fact that the submarine drones were in the black sea, approaching the Russian fleet until they weren't and harmlessly washed ashore.
this is what the same disinformation site said a couple days before:
@SystemUpdate_
Jeffrey Sachs tells
@ggreenwald
: “I saw Senator Richard Blumenthal of Connecticut say, ‘this is money well spent.’ Money well spent throwing tens of thousands of Ukrainians to their tragic and needless deaths.” The Ukraine war is a disaster for the very people it supposedly helps, which American Senators are ok with because they think it shows American resolve to Russia, but in reality exposes the incompetence of Washington, NATO, and everyone involved." purely unbiased reporting don't you know. NC lives in a basement echo chamber...
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1 hour ago, Kemp said:
Since it's 9/11, let's relive one of the moments where Trump showed that he's not only incapable of being a good President, but someone every Trump supporter would hate if they were not in his cult.
None of them will be able to offer even the slightest justification for what he did.
It's hard to believe he's not pure evil when listening to this.
Thousands of people were burning to death and what was he thinking and talking about?
Doc or anyone else here want to say that Trump is not a POS?
narcissism on steroids. It's always about him yet they believe he cares about them because he supposedly listens. plays them like dime store guitars....
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My fav band from Rhythm and roots this weekend. Many Bills fans. Go Bills yells, aa couple hugs and one free beer wearing the 17 jersey
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8 hours ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:
Now even the original source of the leak is calling out msm for creating this lie and spinning it into something else.
knowing how these systems work, this makes tons more sense. Ukraine wouldn’t have asked if it was already there they would’ve just used it and hope no one realized what was happening. why would he devote network capacity where his service isn’t allowed to be sold or over water where nobody is??
there is also this…
https://www.pcmag.com/news/russia-makes-veiled-threat-to-destroy-spacexs-starlink
watching the left lie about this and spread them as rapidly as possible just because Musk points out how crazy todays faux liberals are is incredible.you have to be a first order brainwashed moron to buy all this.
Well, that's amazing. So you have your conspiracies, I have my doubts. Lots of money can buy lots of bs....
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4 hours ago, Tenhigh said:
In actuality neither party really wants to do anything about the border. It is a cheap source of fuel to fire up their rerspective bases. The naive eat up the narratives.
yes, they do. I think it was u that brought it up.
4 hours ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:Trumps wall actually made sone sense, he just explained it like an idiot.
that and Mexico was gonna pay for it all....
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1 hour ago, Pokebball said:
I'm not saying he's done nothing. This is good to see, but the problem is the border. This investment is on the symptom.
The border is a symptom. The source is poverty and misery. D’s want to address those. R’s not so much
34 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:
There is the double standard… you didn’t disappoint. Right on scriptNope. The prez of the US is appropriately involved in geopolitics. Musk is not. No double standard
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5 minutes ago, Pokebball said:
Don't look for what he says; look for what he does (or doesn't do)
Can't decide if it's willful ignorance or just plain ignorance. I suppose it depends on the topic.
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1 hour ago, Orlando Tim said:
Joe you must also be livid at the weak response to the disaster that is coming from fentanyl across the southern border, which is killing hundreds of Americans a day. Us mocking the lying of Dems should make you happy that the truth is coming out.
Another complex issue. If we had less poverty n places like Appalachia it would help the thirst for numbness there. Universal health care with better mental health availability and addiction treatment would help as well. Dems generally support all of these. R's do not.
23 minutes ago, Doc said:LOL! It's obvious you either didn't read or understand the quote you provided. What do you suppose "but our intent was never to have them use it for offensive purposes" mean?
Exactly, and before that said they were happy to help in their "fight for freedom"..it's purposefully contradictory imo. They knew this story would come out. They were covering their asses before it did, albeit unsuccessfully. As the writer said, did she imagine the fight for freedom to not include offensive military capabilities? This is why the distinction between turning off and not approving the use of starlink in that area is crucial. The fact that the submarine drones were approaching the russian fleet and then drifted aimlessly suggests the former. Also the excerpts from an interview with musk in the book do. Kapeesh?
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18 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:
They asked for them a long ago and Biden said no. If we were going to any way why wait and allow all the women and children to die from Russian air strikes???
let’s hear the double standard…
What double standard? I'd imagine Biden didn't want the war to escalate to this level. Hoped putin would pull back from internal pressure after losing so much blood and treasure (which almost happened with mercenary tanks within miles of Moscow). Didn't happen so he sent the jets. Or he listened to his military advisors and sent them when they felt it was necessary. Maybe the analysis of complex issues is beyond your abilities.
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1 hour ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:
you must therefore be furious Biden denied the Ukrainian request for f-16s. The lack or air superiority those would have led to has yielded countless civilian deaths… and having the strike capability would have been way better in this battle scenario than some RC toy boats.Nope. https://www.reuters.com/world/us-approves-sending-f-16s-ukraine-denmark-netherlands-2023-08-17/
9 minutes ago, SCBills said:Ukrainian military asks Elon to extend its use for a military operation.
Elon says he doesn’t wish to be involved in the war.
“Elon Musk, War Puppeteer”
Untrue. See the quote I provided from spaceX COO in 2022. But you MAGA's just ignore facts and then lie.
I'm glad I started this thread. It illustrates the disingenuity of the cons and the knowledge base they lack and don't even attempt to obtain.
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9 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said:
geez, you cons are so creative! what are you 13 years old? Talking about an action that resulted in babies being killed and you think it's funny. Kinda like Jan 6 or the Kashogi dismemberment. You MAGA's are disgusting and truly deplorable.
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7 hours ago, B-Man said:
Reminder Thread Title is false.
I get that they're trying to portray Musk as pro-Russia, but he said from the start that Starlink isn't meant for the military to target drones.
So wait. They're not using Starlink to coordinate missile attacks or troop movements that would be considered offensive military action? We're they doing those by morse code or walkie talkie? Why the carve out for drones. This nonsense is what the SpaceX's COO said in 2022 apparently in regards to this incident:
And no one should be surprised that SpaceX was wielded like a weapon in this way, either. Gwynne Shotwell, SpaceX's chief operating officer and president, told CNBC's Michael Sheetz in 2022 that SpaceX was "really pleased to be able to provide Ukraine connectivity and help them in their fight for freedom."
That sentiment was immediately undermined, however, when she waffled nonsensically, seemingly oblivious to how freedom is won in warfare. In her caveats, she noted reports of Ukrainian soldiers using Starlink "for drones" in March 2022, and said their use "for the military is fine, but our intent was never to have them use it for offensive purposes."
How does Eric Pistey know the terms of service when the US Foreign aid and donors who were paying Musk have not even been identified?
btw, who the hell is he? Apparently a 53 yo resident of South Carolina with no relevant credentials who follows Musk and supports his every move including Musks contention that the Chinese Ballons shot down were actually alien UFO's. https://www.republicworld.com/world-news/us-news/elon-musk-reacts-after-us-fighter-jets-shoot-down-ufo-says-some-of-my-alien-friends-dot-articleshow.html
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2 hours ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:
or example, capitalism a system ‘progressives’ oppose,
FALSE. stop right there.
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38 minutes ago, Doc said:
You mean the Ukrainians, who have actual Nazis fighting for them?
diagram the relevancy of that one too.
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9 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:
Took 45 seconds to find Palin a dance partner
He said "Economic civil war". Seems reasonable since so many Red states disproportionally take tax money...
5 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said:And logically why would the authoritarians in control want a civil war? Duh.
If trump wins he'll be against civil war cuz he'll be authoritarian. Who is our authoritarian leader now? A feeble old man that supports unions? And it's not one person saying it. Several MAGA congress critters have said it.
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https://themessenger.com/business/is-ramaswamy-the-biz-whiz-he-claims-to-be
Seems like the appropriate trump replacement. Another con man.
“The truth is he goes for flamboyance and finding greater fools to buy into his illusions,” says the well-respected Yale Professor Jeffrey Sonnenfeld, who along with colleague Steven Tian has done extensive research into Ramaswamy’s career.
Yes, indeed.
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21 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:
This thread in a nutshell
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2022/dec/13/liberal-bigots-hatred-of-elon-musk/
Written by R Emitt Tyrell author of "The D🤣eath of Liberalism". Sure that's happening...While MAGA implodes. I don't despise him for his money. Like the hack wrote, there are quite a few multi billionaires. I'd like them taxed more aggressively but I don't resent them for their success. Along as they didn't break the law getting there.
The reason I despise him is that he has decided to take sides in geopolitical affairs. Through twitter and starlink. And he seems to choose authoritarian sides more often than not...
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30 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said:
Good question. A 2023 liberal is a person that supports an intrusive and authoritarian big central government, which they control, imposing its will on the public in every aspect of life as there can be no separation between public and private life.
Now it's certain any 2023 self-identified liberal will disagree. That's to be expected. They perceive themselves to be champions of "democracy" fighting those evil people seeking to impose a dictatorship. The comical thing is they have no problem using the tactics and methods of a dictator to stop them. The idea being impose an authoritarian one-party dictatorship to stop others from imposing an authoritarian one-party dictatorship. A beat them to the punch approach. That last part is the irony.
one side is considering civil war. one side is not
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More detail here from the European (British) paper
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2023/sep/08/elon-musk-committed-evil-starlink-order-ukraine
CNN on Thursday quoted an excerpt from the biography Elon Musk by Walter Isaacson, which described how armed submarine drones were approaching a Russian fleet near the Crimean coast when they “lost connectivity and washed ashore harmlessly”.
The biography, due out on Tuesday, alleges Musk ordered Starlink engineers to turn off the service in the area of the attack because of his concern that Vladimir Putin would respond with nuclear weapons to a Ukrainian attack on Russian-occupied Crimea.
Also on Friday, Ukrainian deputy prime minister Mykhailo Fedorov told the Financial Times that Musk shared with Isaacson confidential exchanges about military access to Starlink without permission from Fedorov.
“It’s not very pretty,” Fedorov told the Financial Times.
“I’ve never shown or talked about our correspondence publicly.”
Elon Musk, War puppeteer
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splain the drone tech genius...