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The Bills have had: - The supermarket shooting pre-season which affected the team and community - The Matt Araiza situation which would have affected the locker room, no matter what was said to the contrary - The scary Dane Jackson injury against the Titans, which he thankfully bounced back from quickly but was horrible at the time - Miami heat, where Tommy Doyle had to play with a torn ACL to finish the game and players were dropping with dehydration - Losing Micah Hyde and Von Miller to season ending injuries - Josh playing with a bad elbow since week eight and I can't recall if his ankle was on the injury report this week but may explain the lack of running plays - Snow game against the Browns, where they were stranded for Christmas - Damar Hamlin's collapse at The Jungle It felt like there was a rearguard action against something not completely in their control from the off. I think changes do need to be made but, at the same time, I do think hitting a wall was partially the reason behind today.

Even with Josh, we traded away the opportunity to draft Mahomes. Even with Diggs, we traded away the opportunity to draft Jefferson. It's so Billsy that, even when they get great players, others benefit from it too.

Dorsey should be asking that question if that's what he's calling. And maybe questions should be asked why Josh is ignoring him if he's not following play calls - actually, they should have been asked well before now.

Then why isn't Josh taking them? He was earlier in the year. And if his mind is frazzled by something surely it's up to the OC to calm him down and get him back into the zone?

It does show, even at the death, the basic problem Josh has had all year. He's fantastic but all too often he's missing basic plays. Today didn't matter, but he turned over the ball in important positions all year. Sometimes that's been down to the horrific O Line. Sometimes it's been because of miscommunication or bad WR plays. Sometimes it's been down to Josh.

I did say earlier in the year I feel Josh needs to grow his game mentally. Saying that, I don't think he was the problem today.

Yes, because the Bengals didn't have injuries. If they try that, I hope the media go for the jugular. They have no defense - literally.

Looking back at his head angle, I don't think he's moaning at Josh - I think he's interacting with the guy to Josh's right, who just moves into frame temporarily.

Please, Carolina - TAKE HIM. And don't let Josh pick the replacement.

Agreed, but the last play - well, almost last play - was an interception.

The season finished on an interception. Fitting.

No, no, no, it's all on Josh. He needs to be traded. He's crap. He's one of the worst QBs in the league. Or something.

The moments were, for the most part, conjured up by Josh.

Agreed. 13 seconds hurt. This is numb already.

I'm more worried about Diggs taking it out on Josh than the loss, to be honest. The loss has been coming.

And then you wake up.

The Bills haven't looked the same since the bye, and that was week seven.

Jones is inactive.

I thought he was crap and not as good as Burrow?

I think that's why I actually feel quite relaxed. We received warning after warning that something like this could happen. The adversity has caught up with them.

Of course he has. Switch Josh and Burrow and the former would have been much better today. They're both quality but Burrow has been helped out by strong offensive, and absolutely dreadful defensive, play.

It's probably Josh's fault. It's also his fault they're about to put up 30 on Bills at Highmark.

I tend to be tough on Josh. But the hatred of him on here today is disturbing. What's he's suppoosed to do?

The Bills down 10-24 heading into the fourth quarter and punt on a 3rd and 2??? Just... get lost, the lot of them.

Not on their 40.