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4 minutes ago, Doc said:
It would be a rational explanation if the below weren't the reality.
Nice chat, dipshit.
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B and D per the doc
Once you get your blood test done, he or she will know what to recommend.
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31 minutes ago, Doc said:
From where are you pulling this?
In my opinion that would be an example of a rational explanation. There is just as much evidence for that as for him being an FBI informant (aka zero public evidence).
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1 minute ago, All_Pro_Bills said:
Because the Committee investigation is being conducted under the authority of Congress, specifically the House of Representatives and by virtue of the separation of powers has no formal relationship to any FBI investigation or activity which resides in the Executive branch. So this is not the FBI's investigation and they are legally free to act as they choose in regards to disclosure.
But you said...
12 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said:What I think has no bearing on the event but a complete and transparent disclosure by the FBI
I also hesitate to think the committee would burn an FBI source without approval from the FBI.
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Just now, All_Pro_Bills said:
What I think has no bearing on the event but a complete and transparent disclosure by the FBI of that agencies, and other Federal law enforcement and IC agencies, activities and involvement before and during that day along with a complete disclosure of the identities of their informants and assets describing their roles among the protesters would provide some clarity.
Why would the FBI disclose that prior to the conclusion of the investigation? It makes zero strategic sense.
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16 minutes ago, Doc said:
There is no rational explanation for Epps not having been in a jail cell all this time...other than he was working with/employed by someone to help incite people.
Is cutting a deal with the feds to provide information in lieu of being charged irrational?
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Just now, Nineforty said:
you are just as bad as the traitors to this country, B-MAN. soulless piece of *****.
BMANANON
This year's Q
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2 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said:
The idea is the crime would never have occurred without the FBI being involved in the initiation and planning of the scheme.
If not for Ray Epps (who has yet to be confirmed as an FBI informant - this is all conjecture) you think there would not have been a crime committed on 1/6?
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Thursday, the FBI arrested Michigan candidate for governor Ryan Kelley in Allendale, Mich., on misdemeanor charges that the Department of Justice says are related to the Jan. 6, 2021 breach at the U.S. capitol.
Ryan Kelley is one of just five remaining Republican candidates for governor in the state after numerous others were disqualified for submitting fraudulent signatures to get onto the ballot.
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Just now, Over 29 years of fanhood said:
Speaking of groupthink malaise… oh there you are. Dance on any dead children’s graves today?
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28 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:
see that, from that whole diatribe you only picked up the misspelling of your master.
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13 minutes ago, 716er said:
Can you please share a link that shows there was a firebombing for 2 months each night in the Federal Court Building? The man who was found to do so (twice - not each night) was arrested and charged. Unsure of the current state of his case.
During a Black Lives Matter protest on Sept. 21, a Portland police officer was sitting in a vehicle used to broadcast warnings and loud noise at protesters when he saw a burning object sailing through the air toward him.
The officer jumped out of the car and found a beer growler made into a Molotov cocktail, a burned rag stuffed into its mouth. The firebomb had not gone off.
A previously secret 28-count indictment, announced Monday, charges Malik Muhammed with attempted aggravated murder, attempted assault in the first degree, attempted murder in the first degree, unlawful manufacture of a destructive device and other crimes.
On Sept. 23, during a protest at the Justice Center building in downtown Portland, another Molotov cocktail was thrown. This one exploded when it hit the ground, creating a large fireball and spraying flames onto the leg of an officer, Demer said. Multiple videos show Muhammed throwing the device, he added.
Found an update - sentenced to 10 years
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5 minutes ago, B-Man said:
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desperate coping
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3 hours ago, All_Pro_Bills said:
How about attacking and firebombing the Federal Court building in Portland for 2 months every night. Given how plainly more extreme that was shouldn't that be insurrection and under investigation too?
Can you please share a link that shows there was a firebombing for 2 months each night in the Federal Court Building? The man who was found to do so (twice - not each night) was arrested and charged. Unsure of the current state of his case.
During a Black Lives Matter protest on Sept. 21, a Portland police officer was sitting in a vehicle used to broadcast warnings and loud noise at protesters when he saw a burning object sailing through the air toward him.
The officer jumped out of the car and found a beer growler made into a Molotov cocktail, a burned rag stuffed into its mouth. The firebomb had not gone off.
A previously secret 28-count indictment, announced Monday, charges Malik Muhammed with attempted aggravated murder, attempted assault in the first degree, attempted murder in the first degree, unlawful manufacture of a destructive device and other crimes.
On Sept. 23, during a protest at the Justice Center building in downtown Portland, another Molotov cocktail was thrown. This one exploded when it hit the ground, creating a large fireball and spraying flames onto the leg of an officer, Demer said. Multiple videos show Muhammed throwing the device, he added.
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They claim nobody cares about January 6th yet they won't shut the ***** up about trying to discredit it.
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3 minutes ago, unbillievable said:
Imagine a world where taking selfies was enough to overthrow a government.
Did your terrorist-babe Babbitt die of a selfie wound?
1 minute ago, ChiGoose said:Imagine a world where breaking into the Capitol building and assaulting cops is dismissed as "taking selfies"
Welcome to PPP
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Curious how much additional liquid Elon will need if he needs to renege his deal and pay the billion dollars to the SEC.
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Also what in the sweet ***** does this mean?
I have a duty to protect Texans if Twitter is misrepresenting how many accounts are fake to drive up their revenue.
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8 minutes ago, DRsGhost said:
Ken Paxton under investigation for fraud investigating Twitter for fraud.
#DeleteYourTwitter (even after Musk backs out)
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1 hour ago, ChiGoose said:
Could be. I would not be surprised at either Lauren Boebert or MTG since they’ve used the 1776 language around Jan 6 before.Both wrong
Unindicted co-conspirators at this level means they have cut a deal with the feds. It will be interesting to see what comes of that.
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Any thoughts on who this individual is? I don't think it's a politician based the text "show our politicians We the People are in charge." My first hunch is Roger Stone.
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19 minutes ago, Doc said:
I'll wait until they indict a Republican for something other than (reasonable) contempt of Congress. And then I'll wait for the trial and see if they get away with it, like Sussman.
Odds are you won't wait and will fire off this tired trope again and again
6 hours ago, Doc said:That if there were anything, it would have been discovered sometime last year and charges would have been filed.
Maybe doc conspiracy will prove me wrong.
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On 10/1/2020 at 11:30 AM, B-Man said:
The press’s strange fascination with the Proud Boys
Why this obsessive push to vilify such an obscure group?
https://spectator.us/press-strange-fascination-proud-boys/
Tuesday night’s debate was full of strange moments, but the most bizarre of all may have come when Chris Wallace pressured Trump to condemn ‘white supremacists and militia groups’. When the President asked for an actual name, Joe Biden interrupted to announce the surprise debate appearance of Gavin McInnes’s all-male club, the Proud Boys.
While highly online individuals likely reacted much as McInnes did, Cockburn suspects the far more common reaction among the masses was, ‘who the hell are the Proud Boys?’
The Biden campaign and the press badly want Gavin McInnes’s expanded group of drinking buddies to be a household name, representing the horrifying specter of right-wing violence that is supposedly looming over America. Why this obsessive push to vilify such an obscure group? That is no mystery. For four months, rioters have torched and terrorized dozens of American cities. These were instigated and perpetrated by partisans of the left, while Democratic politicians made insane declarations about the need to abolish or defund the police. Belatedly, the Democrats have realized that burning cities and trashing civilization itself are a poor case for leadership. So, the effort is underway to rewrite four months of politically-motivated rioting as politically-agnostic ‘violence’.
In addition, the never-ending hunt for ‘racism’ in American life suffers from a lack of clear villains. The Ku Klux Klan is moribund and irrelevant, and all the high-profile hate crimes seem to be hoaxes. Progressives will feel far more reassured about this crusade if they can find some actual white supremacist terrorists, and the Proud Boys have been chosen as their target.
But the truth is that the Proud Boys are quite short on the evil so many want to foist on them, so this effort has a very desperate try-hard feeling to it.
In a post-debate writeup, NBC News said that the four-year-old group is ‘considered a violent…hate group’ by the Anti-Defamation League, which is NBC’s roundabout way of admitting that no memorable examples of Proud Boy atrocities come to mind. The group’s Wikipedia page has a Pravda-like quality to it: the site’s editors are frantic to mark the Proud Boys as supremely wicked, but instead they look supreme silly with subsections about the group ‘taunting soccer fans’ and having a ‘connection with Roger Stone’.
Last week, Oregon governor Kate Brown hysterically declared a state of emergency before a planned Proud Boys rally in Portland. The result: the only violence was between police and members of antifa.
Nobody has to engage in these contortions for antifa, despite Biden’s claim that the group is just an ‘idea’, like democracy or disestablishing the Church of England. Concocting a list of antifa actions is easy: in Minneapolis, they burned down a police station. In Portland, months of rioting have included a siege of a federal courthouse and the murder of a pro-Trump activist. (Biden fans will point to the teenage, right-wing killer in Wisconsin, but he was not affiliated with any well-known group). Those with a longer memory will recall the antifa associate who was killed while apparently trying to blow up an ICE facility in Washington. And, of course, antifa radicals are behind the most high-profile attacks on statues and monuments across the country.
The ‘white supremacist’ angle on the Proud Boys is even weaker than the violence one. Not only do the Proud Boys openly reject white supremacy or white nationalism, but simply looking at the group quickly reveals they are substantially less white than antifa. Besides McInnes himself, the most famous member of the group is likely Tusitala ‘Tiny’ Toese, a gigantic Polynesian man.
In 2018, the Daily Beast profiled Enrique Tarrio, the Afro-Cuban head of the Proud Boys Miami chapter. The piece’s headline blared that ‘Young Men of Color are Joining White-Supremacist Groups’. Somehow Arun Gupta wrote, and the Beast published, that bit of analysis without pausing even a moment to reflect on how ridiculous they being. They aren’t alone; NPR’s ‘The Takeaway’ podcast brought on a law professor and a Southern Poverty Law Center associate to discuss the ‘rise of multiracial white supremacy.’.
Cockburn tries very hard to be a sophisticated intellect, but this trend is beyond him. If a group has a multiracial membership and explicitly rejects white supremacy, then perhaps the most reasonable explanation is that they are not, in fact, white supremacists? And if a group’s most violent actions are difficult to distinguish from a large bar fight, then perhaps it’s a bit silly for them to be targeted by the same press outlets that label riots as ‘fiery but mostly peaceful’.
Quick Note: those of you simpleton's here, who will dismiss any informational article as "Defending the White Supremacists"
Don't bother.
You have already displayed your ignorance in this thread for the past two days, no one expects any more of you.
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Recap of the 2nd Day of January 6th Hearings
in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
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Responses to this thread are absolutely embarrassing. Zero serious discourse.
Trump has mindfukked so many.