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I think Freddie would be a perfect role model for TJ. I agree that they are both similar backs. I don’t want to hear he’s not a featured back. How the heck does anyone know that. Freddie wasn’t considered a featured back. He bounced around a bunch of leagues before he caught on. All I know is every time TJ touches the ball he’s an animal. And I’m not sure when the last time we had a RB that could catch like him? Thurman?
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On 3/1/2025 at 9:34 AM, Steptide said:
How could daboll and shein even entertain this idea? They're picking 4(?) overall I think. Would be an absolute terrible idea. Go get a qb and develop him. The more the giants do the more I'm happy daboll isn't here anymore.
I don’t think the Giants will give Daboll time to develop a QB. Don’t you think if they have a losing season he will get fired? A rookie QB would almost certainly lead to a losing season. Rodgers could be a bridge. I don’t think it’s a half bad idea with your back up against the wall. Btw I think Rodgers is a moron/A hole. Who breaks up with Olivia Munn?
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Van Noy is boring!
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Gabriel’s Gate and Bar Bill.
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I stand corrected. I believe Beane extended him. Huh? Sorry, respectfully submitted.
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Got me there. But Cook, Kincaid, Bernard, Dawkins, Benford, Rousuue (sp?) Moss, Phillips, Edmund, T. Johnson, Levi. Come on man. He’s close to Polian. Polian didn’t have to deal with a salary cap for most of his time. But Beane is the real deal.
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Just now, Trust The Process said:
Lock Beane out of the draft war room the first 2 days of the draft from rounds 1 thru 3, then allow him back in from rounds 4 thru 7
You might be onto something. And when a game gets tight, take McD out.
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1 minute ago, mrags said:
Aren’t we tho? Draft an undersized (another term for always at risk for injury) at LB, a rotational DE, an undersized DT, a 4th string WR, another DB, and gotta get another RB in there, because the league cares about running the ball anymore.
that should sum up their roster strategy
I’ll concede I’m sick of undersized players.
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2 minutes ago, SCBills said:
I honestly think Beane is a good drafter.
We have had two critical issues in the postseason, outside coaching..
Big time injuries on the defense and a fundamental lack of investment at WR.
The defense will, potentially, get everyone back at some point this season.
The offense can salvaged by adding a legitimate WR to this room via trade. It would be great to have that 2 from the Diggs trade, but you can’t just throw away a season for a draft pick.
Just now, Dr.Mantis_Toboggan said:I haven’t trusted Beane in drafts since he passed on DK and AJ Brown for Cody Ford.
His entire resume is Josh Allen… the end.
Seriously? Milano, White, Shakir, Bernard, Ottorence (sp?), Cook, Kincaid, Knox, Dawkins. Want to go to free agents? Rasul, Hyde, Poyer, Morris. Please stop respectfully.
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5 minutes ago, 4th&long said:
And? Who cares?
Night night
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Just now, <bills4life> said:
It is. However 8 years later should be the expiration date of the “coup”, if no improvement is noted. We should not be in this position period
Look I get it. The last two weeks suck. Injuries haven’t been friendly to us. Trey White, Poyer, Hyde, Morris, Milano, Bernard, Shakir, etc. It’s not Beane. We are a really good team in a reset year. I’m not getting rid of Beane. McD is a really good coach, but not winning a SB falls at his feet. Respectfully.
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Just now, 4th&long said:
Yeah, I trust some random fan on a message board to make a medical judgement of a game he’s watching on tv.
I’ve never replied negatively to a post. Hahahah! Put the beer down and go to bed.
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1 hour ago, TonyBeets said:
As much as I'd love to blame McDermott, I tend to believe the issue is Beane. We give him so much leeway because he hit on Josh.
You don’t think hitting on Josh wasn’t a major coup? I hated the pick. Experts had at least three qbs above him. He’s a hall of famer in the making. He’s a wizard at mid round picks. We ran Polian out of town. How did that work out?
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11 minutes ago, JakeFrommStateFarm said:
Watch the play again.
His head hit the ground hard and he was down for several minutes.
Why else would Trubisky have to come in ?
You’re an active poster, I don’t agree with some of your posts. But I’ll die on this hill with you.
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23 minutes ago, JakeFrommStateFarm said:
It was pretty clear that when his head hit the ground on the sack he got a concussion.
It's the NFLs concussion protocol a joke ?
I love the kid. This was a league and team failure. He will never protect himself, he’s all in. The Bills and NFL must protect their players. Plus he’s our Josh, no way the city of Buffalo wants to use him and spit him out.
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9 hours ago, Chaos said:
The title clearly says “collection of talent” not “team”.
Thanks for pointing that out.
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I think we need to differentiate between greatest assembly of talent vs the greatest team. I think to be the greatest, the team needed to accomplish something. I think this eliminates the SB Bills.
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On 4/27/2024 at 6:07 PM, Logic said:
I'll start by saying that this was far from my favorite Bills draft.
I'm usually Mr Optimistic when it comes to draft classes, but I thought this year's class was just...fine. It was like if you fed Brandon Beane's draft tendencies and the Bills' needs into ChatGPT and asked it to spit out the 2024 Bills draft class. It was completely on brand, it filled the needs we all knew the team had, and it'll probably end up producing a few average players and a couple good ones.
Ho-hum. Nobody in this class makes me stand up and say "that guy's really gonna help the Bills get over the hump and win a title".
Onto the picks:
1. Keon Coleman - I was not a fan of this pick. For a team whose WR corps needed more speed and separation, this guy made the LEAST sense to me of all the 1st/2nd round WR prospects. Josh Allen has historically thrived with fast, shifty WRs who separate well, and has not clicked with big-bodied guys who struggle with separation. So adding Keon Coleman? It feels like "Square peg, meet round hole". He does have great athleticism and RAC ability for a man his size. He's also young to the position, having played football full time for only two seasons and being only 20 years old. I have concerns about his ability to play X in the NFL, and I'll believe that he's a better fit as a big slot until proven otherwise. Here's hoping I'm wrong about Coleman. The absolute ceiling I see for him is "Solid WR2". Not what I was hoping for in a star studded WR class and with a crying need at the position.
2. Cole Bishop - Looks like he should be just what the doctor ordered at safety for the Bills. He seems to be more Poyer than Hyde, in that he's at his best in the box and playing the run, and he packs a wallop when he tackles. He appears to have untapped man coverage potential, with Dalton Kincaid saying Bishop usually got the better of him 1-on-1 at Utah. He also has freaky speed for the position and a great mental disposition. Should be an easy fit in the Bills' scheme. At the VERY least, I expect him to contribute from day 1 as a dime 'backer, but I'll ultimately be surprised if he doesn't wind up starting at one of the two safety spots by midseason.
3. Dewayne Carter - Good bull rusher, great motor, tons of experience, impeccable character. Seems like a 1T/3T 'tweener. Quickly apparent from his interviews that he's one of the smartest, most likable, easy to root for guys you'll ever see in the NFL. Should be a quality rotational tackle for the Bills and seems like, in time, he will provide quality leadership and a steadying presence on the D-line. May never be a big play guy, but may at least be a "dirty work" guy who allows others around him to thrive.
4. Ray Davis - Hard running inside guy with great vision, ability to get skinny, contact balance, and underrated breakaway ability. Had the most receiving TDs in 2023 of any SEC running back in 25 years. Should provide a nice change of pace to James Cook without the Bills necessarily losing anything in the pass game when he comes on the field. An older prospect, but I don't care, because he's a running back, and he won't be here past his first contract anyway. Another "likability" and leadership All-Star. Davis should provide steadiness and depth, but doesn't do anything that wows you, and I'm not sure he moves the needle much on offense.
5. Sedrick Van Pran - Tons of starting experience at Georgia. Has some traits reminiscent of Mitch Morse in terms of quickness, twitch, and ability on the move. Stop me if you've heard this one before -- lauded for his leadership. Should provide a good backup plan to Connor McGovern at center and/or provide competition at that position. It will not shock me if this guy is starting by year two. Seems like a great value at this point in the draft. One of my favorite picks.
5. Edufuan Ulofoshio - What do you want me to say? You didn't think the Bills would let a draft pass them by without selecting a late round special teams linebacker, did you? The room is starting to get a bit crowded with Milano, Bernard, Williams, Morrow, Spector, and Ulofoshio. However...the Bills lost ST stalwarts Dodsen, Matakevitch, and Neal, and needed some reinforcements there. That's what Ulo seems to be. I'll be surprised if he ever amounts to more than that, but at this point in the draft, that's what you're getting.
5. Javon Soloman - Undersized speed rusher (though he does have a great wingspan for the position) who had absolutely eye-popping production at Troy, where he out-produced Demarcus Ware and Osi Umenyoira. He can be a designated pass rusher and special teams guy and can learn from his idol Von Miller, after whom he says he models his game. Very much a boom/bust prospect, with seemingly equal potential to be the steal of the draft or an outright bust. I liked this pick a lot, and I'm betting on the former over the latter.
6. Tylan Grable - What do you want me to say? Did you think the Bills were gonna let a draft go by without taking a project offensive tackle late? I don't have much to say about this guy. He's just like Tommy Doyle or Luke Tenuta before him: a developmental tackle prospect who's a long shot to make the 53-man roster. With VanDemark and Collins already in place as backup OTs, it's hard to see this guy making the roster.
6. Daequan Hardy - Special teams guy. Standout punt returner and gunner. I usually look to Bills' late round corners with excitement, because they're usually big-bodied guys with zone eyes who only dropped due to underwhelming athleticism. Hardy does not appear to fit that mold. He appears instead to be a punt return candidate and, beyond that, I'm not sure where he'd fit in. His only hope is as a nickel, but the Bills are obviously set there with Taron Johnson.
7. Travis Clayton - At least this one's fun. A guy from the International Pathways program who has never played a down of football in his life. But he's 6'7", 301 lbs and runs a 4.79. The hope is that he turns into the next Jordan Mailata. A fun story and will be fun to track, but obviously a longshot and likely a practice squad guy at best.
Overall, it was clear that leadership, maturity, and experience were high priorities for the Bills this year. Again and again, they picked guys who were team captains and lauded for their leadership abilities. Given all the leadership that walked out the door this offseason, that certainly makes sense. Again and again, they picked guys with lots of starting experience, guys who shined at the Senior Bowl, and guys who have their heads screwed on straight. Given that they will be counting on some of these guys to contribute from day one, and given that they seem to be doing a bit of a locker room reset, this also makes sense.
The reason that I am ultimately unexcited by this year's draft class is this: I wanted the Bills to prioritize building around Josh Allen. I wanted them to either take a swing for the fences by trading up for a star receiver, or -- failing that -- to go the Packers route and draft a handful of skill position players to surround him with. If they were unable to acquire great quality, then I hoped they would at least acquire quantity. I fear that in choosing Keon Coleman, they may have failed to achieve the "quality" goal, and in refusing to draft any other receivers, they also failed to achieve the "quantity" goal. And Ray Davis is the definition of "uninspiring" at running back. He'll be a fine depth player and grind out tough yards, I'm sure, but he doesn't move the needle much on offense. Neither Coleman nor Davis seem like they upgrade the offense. Just...status quo at best.
In a year where I felt the very TOP priority was to improve on offense, I feel the Bills failed to meaningfully do so. In an offseason where I hoped they'd make a bold move or two to try to find an elite player for this offense, they failed to try. After hearing "Josh needs more weapons" for a couple years running, he now seems to have less. The WR corps seems to have regressed, and seems to lack any true downfield explosiveness or viable deep threat.
This draft class was not a disaster, by any means. it seems FINE. Just fine. Keon Coleman doesn't scream "Alpha WR1" to me. Ray Davis seems like an average NFL backup. Cole Bishop and Javon Soloman seem to perhaps have playmaking potential on defense. Beyond that -- meh.
When the Bills decided to go young and start a roster reset, I had hope that Beane was gonna try to do things differently, since the old way he was doing things didn't get the Bills over the hump. They've been hitting too man singles and doubles over the years and not enough home runs. Instead, he appears to be doing things exactly the same way this time around. He seems to be content to collect character/culture guys, whose ceiling is "good, solid NFL player", rather than taking any risks or big swings for potential stars. He hasn't really taken those swings, to my estimation, since the Allen/Edmunds class. THAT'S why I'm disappointed in this draft class. It seems fine, solid, steady, and logical, but it doesn't seem like it'll move the needle much.
I will move on to hoping that the post June 1st money infusion brings us a quality veteran receiver and maybe a pass rusher either via free agency or trade. Failing that, it would be hard for me to conclude anything other than that it looks like the Bills are poised to take a step back this year. 2025 looks promising in terms of cap space and draft capital, but if it's gonna continue to be "business as usual" for Brandon Beane, then I'm not sure how excited I should allow myself to get for that.
The more things change, the more they stay the same.Excellent post, and well researched. I couldn’t agree more with your assessment of the players, especially Coleman. Man I love the kid, but you’re right. It gets talked a lot on here about Josh likes separation when throwing to his receivers. Coleman looks like an acrobatic contested catch receiver. On paper, it’s not a good match. With that being said, I trust the front office and coaches. Hopefully they work their magic. We can’t afford to miss on such a high pick.
I’m really excited to see what McD. Will do with Bishop.
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The NFL’s product on the field is trending in a poor direction. Between the gambling and refs, the product looks tarnished to me. Bottom line, if you try to sell this to someone who isn’t already a fan I don’t think you’re going to have a successful go. Move to full time refs, who call competent games, get rid of gambling (I know it’s never happening) and I can see international succeeding.
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10 hours ago, Cheektowaga Chad said:
Sean McDermott for frank Reich and a pick
Who says no
Nostradamus! Now Reich can be had for just a contract!
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2 hours ago, Airseven said:
If they were playing the Panthers, they'd say going to Carolina. They wouldn't say going to North Carolina. It's intended as the (harmless) NY/NJ jab.
What? The Jets and Giants literally play in New Jersey. It’s not a harmless jab, it’s a point of pride for Bills fans.
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3 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:
If Tre isn't back to something like himself they will cut him after 2023. He can save them up to $10m in space.
Gotcha? Yeah I have a different take, seems he’s back by all accounts. I think he took a year to trust his knee. I had a knee injury and it took a long time not to think about it. I think he’s a lock.
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16 minutes ago, Rico said:
Way too soon. #1 & 2 CBs next year could very well be Elam and Dane, no guarantee Tre is still on the team in 2024.
Why would you say that? He’s signed until 2025. Just curious, do you think we will trade or cut him? Cheers.
Throwback: Jim Kelly’s 1st NFL game 1986
in The Stadium Wall
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I forgot how good Bell was.
How times have changed. Bell runs over a db in the first series. Certainly looks like a concussion and the announcer says he’s got some cob webs to work out!