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1 minute ago, buffaloboyinATL said:
That is a great point. I missed your previous comment, but you are right, now they will error on the side of caution and pull more players out of games.
I find it really odd that there is no mention of the Miami team doctors, who also had to clear him to let him back on the field.
NFLPA likely can’t do anything about Miami team doctors now, I guess we’ll have to wait till the final report of the investigation come out.
It’s reported both Miami team doctors and the UNC were interviewed on Friday.
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10 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:
On the bolded, yes that is what has been stated. Multiples times and re-iterated by RapSheet yesterday. He was examined it was concluded he did not have a concussion and therefore he did not enter the protocol.
As for Doctors breaking the law and "doing shady ****" it is incredibly rare. The conspiracy theorists would be disappointed how rare it is.
If something shady has happened here - contrary to what has been reported this far - then the book should absolutely be thrown at them. But I will wait for evidence of that first.
one question: Tua had a “back” injury and wasn’t in concussion protocol leading to Thursday’s game, why was he checked for concussion symptoms everyday as stated by NFL?
Does every player listed in injury report but not in concussion protocol get checked for concussion symptoms everyday? My understanding is “no”. So other than Tua, which other players not in concussion protocol is checked for concussion symptoms including by independent neuro expert everyday? what protocol is based on to check concussion symptoms on a player with “back” injury but not in concussion protocol?
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So Tua has a "back" injury and is not in concussion protocol leading to yesterday's game but he is still required to check for concussion symptoms every day?
Is this something new in the "protocol"? Does NFL do that for all players suspecting to concussion these days? or just Tua only even he has a "back" injury?
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4 hours ago, NewEra said:
@Einsteincreating terrible threads has been your theme ever since I can remember seeing your name
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Divisional rivalry or not, hate to see any injury like this. Seems like a late hit and should be a roughing the passer penalty.
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So how many more games before Tyreek started to make a scene?
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One looks quite different to the other 😎
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5 hours ago, Ga boy said:
Dolphins might be for real. Kinda scary. So are Ravens. Chiefs are scary. We’ll know more after they play Chargers. Really about both teams. I’m not counting Colts and Titans out yet. Bills scare everybody. Go Bills 🏈🦬
Watch Tua's every throw yesterday here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3A-q7UKWOA , and then reassess whether Dolphins are scary. Yes, every given Sunday, Jags game last year, etc, but Dolphins need better plays from Tua before they are in the conversation of "scary".
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Comparing Josh's TD pass to Diggs and Tua's last pass yesterday when he got out of pocket and tried to make a throw without setting his feet in the link below, not sure what Dolphins fans/media try to complain about.
https://youtu.be/g3A-q7UKWOA?t=398
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For anyone didn't watch pats/dolphins game yesterday but saw Tua's stats, here is every of his throws yesterday: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3A-q7UKWOA
To be fair, he did what his coaches asked him to do and he had an okay game, but there is no year 3 jump at least based on the first game. Tua is still the same quarterback as his was in first two years.
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6 minutes ago, Beck Water said:
The more important stats are hard(er) to find - how many punts into the EZ vs pinned inside the 20 or inside the 10?
https://www.nfl.com/players/sam-martin/stats/situational/2021/
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3 minutes ago, BillsFan692 said:
Read: we werent going to do anything as evidenced by our firing of Hack. We only now decide to do something since entire world found out and our hand was stuck in the cookie jar.
Everyone has different interpretation so I'll give you that. But obviously others may have different take on his statement.
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Asked why the team did not have follow-up conversations with Galliard or try to talk to Jane Doe after July 31, Beane said:
“I would say we had the boulders of what was going to be accused or alleged. But at that point, it wasn't an actual case. And there was, one of the things you look at is, where is this criminally? That’s what you're trying to find out. And so, we were just, again, trying to look at everything. (Any) one of those things on there, if true, would be a no go for us. You know what I mean? So we didn't need all that. We just needed to try and put as many facts together as we could in a limited amount of time.”
Added Beane: “All we were trying to do was use our resources in the time we had to put the pieces together and find out what happened, and Matt was very aware if anything was not on the up and up during our process that we would remove him. Once this became a civil case two days ago, it was very serious in nature, and we felt it was in Matt’s best interest.”
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The Bills released veteran punter Matt Haack on Monday, effectively declaring Araiza the winner of the punter competition.
“It wasn’t a civil case,” Beane said. “There was no criminal case. What we had was accusations that could come forward and we were still piecing it together. Obviously, 48 hours ago or sometime around then, a civil case was filed. We read through that and circled back again with Matt. Again, it’s a lot of things that right now we can’t close the loop on.”
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1 minute ago, BillsFan692 said:
Beane told us in the press conference that the bills never contacted back to the victim or her attorney because "there was nothing else to gain as they had already been given all the boulders of the civil suit".
So, you are just lying or willfully ignorant either way I am done with this argument.
That not all Beane said when replying that question though.
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Asked why the team did not have follow-up conversations with Galliard or try to talk to Jane Doe after July 31, Beane said:
“I would say we had the boulders of what was going to be accused or alleged. But at that point, it wasn't an actual case. And there was, one of the things you look at is, where is this criminally? That’s what you're trying to find out. And so, we were just, again, trying to look at everything. (Any) one of those things on there, if true, would be a no go for us. You know what I mean? So we didn't need all that. We just needed to try and put as many facts together as we could in a limited amount of time.”
Added Beane: “All we were trying to do was use our resources in the time we had to put the pieces together and find out what happened, and Matt was very aware if anything was not on the up and up during our process that we would remove him. Once this became a civil case two days ago, it was very serious in nature, and we felt it was in Matt’s best interest.”
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1 hour ago, Beck Water said:
It's quite plausible to me what someone suggested, that perhaps the Bills weren't expecting to draft Araiza in the round where they had him slotted, so they didn't put much of their horsepower into vetting him.
But it's not "psychic needed" levels of implausible to believe that some info was out there and able to be uncovered, because reportedly at least two teams DID uncover it (AP report, two primary sources needed)
There was an active police investigation. Teams employ former LEOs to research whether there are any police actions against a prospect - maybe not the details, but the fact that there is an open investigation. If the LA times is correct (and they are a paper that confirms primary sources), this was not a cursory investigation. It involved 20 personnel. That's enough people that it seems fairly likely an insider police source would be able to find out an investigation was ongoing and it involved members of the SDSU football team.
There were student reports last fall of a gang rape in an off campus house, involving 5 football players including "Matt", stating that the football team all knew and rumors were spreading throughout the athletic department.
That is the sort of thing that area scouts, student-ish age assistants, and deep background investigators are employed to find out, and in fact per AP, at least two teams (who weren't interested in a punter) did uncover something.
Just to be sure, is the part you feel doesn't make sense the following statement Beane made yesterday? Your take is that Buffalo Bills as a football organization, not a legal authority, should be able to get sufficient information to release Azaria before the suit and whatever Beane said about "trying to put facts around a legal situation, sometimes with limited information" is implausible?
Or do you feel the part doesn't make sense is "obviously Matt's version was different. And you want to give everyone as much due process as you can" because of LA times article, knowing of ongoing investigation, contact by Daniel Gilleon, etc that they should ignore Azaria's version and shouldn't give everyone as much due process as they can?
or it's the combination of both that you feel doesn't make sense?
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“We were trying not to rush to judgment,” Beane said. “And obviously Matt's version was different. And you want to give everyone as much due process as you can. Again, we're not a judge and a jury. ... “I would say it’s not easy, you’re trying to put facts around a legal situation, sometimes with limited information, and so ultimately that’s where we’re at today with a decision."
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14 minutes ago, ganesh said:
Agreed. This is a first PR misstep by Beane. Are they really afraid that the players will revolt against the management for this action?
Beane made a fair comment that the information was sealed and not available to them during the draft - Fair enough.
However, they came to know about it on July 31st. They have ignored such a serious thing and waiting 25 days for the bomb of the civil suit to come out before they took action. This puts them in poor light on such a decision making, especially with a woman owner to whom they were reporting.
And now, finally, if they had come out saying that the "Bills Image" was more important for the Owners, Coaches, Players and Staff then the Bills would have come out as an organization that cares.
Beane was asked these kind of questions during the new conference.
Beane said the team did not find out about the allegations until late July. The attorney for the alleged victim in the case, Daniel Gilleon, spoke with Kathryn D’Angelo, the Bills’ assistant general counsel, on July 31. Araiza's attorney, Kerry Armstrong, said Friday that he believed Araiza had told the Bills about the situation shortly after a June 3 story appeared in the Los Angeles Times. The story did not include the names of any San Diego State players.
“We were trying not to rush to judgment,” Beane said. “And obviously Matt's version was different. And you want to give everyone as much due process as you can. Again, we're not a judge and a jury. ... “I would say it’s not easy, you’re trying to put facts around a legal situation, sometimes with limited information, and so ultimately that’s where we’re at today with a decision."
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Asked if the release of the 11-page civil suit brought to light details he wasn’t aware of, Beane said:
“Well, they were accusations,” Beane said. “It just clarified exactly what they were. And at that point, it's a real civil case. It's not a, this may happen. It's something that you have to respond to, and at this point we're not the judge and jury.”
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Asked why the team did not have follow-up conversations with Galliard or try to talk to Jane Doe after July 31, Beane said:
“I would say we had the boulders of what was going to be accused or alleged. But at that point, it wasn't an actual case. And there was, one of the things you look at is, where is this criminally? That’s what you're trying to find out. And so, we were just, again, trying to look at everything. (Any) one of those things on there, if true, would be a no go for us. You know what I mean? So we didn't need all that. We just needed to try and put as many facts together as we could in a limited amount of time.”
Added Beane: “All we were trying to do was use our resources in the time we had to put the pieces together and find out what happened, and Matt was very aware if anything was not on the up and up during our process that we would remove him. Once this became a civil case two days ago, it was very serious in nature, and we felt it was in Matt’s best interest.”
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The Bills released veteran punter Matt Haack on Monday, effectively declaring Araiza the winner of the punter competition.
“It wasn’t a civil case,” Beane said. “There was no criminal case. What we had was accusations that could come forward and we were still piecing it together. Obviously, 48 hours ago or sometime around then, a civil case was filed. We read through that and circled back again with Matt. Again, it’s a lot of things that right now we can’t close the loop on.”
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Beane said Araiza’s agent was unaware of the accusations until late July.
“His agent did not know,” Beane said. “Our understanding without getting into it is that Matt learned sometime this summer that he was being investigated, and that’s when he hired, I don’t know the date, but I believe he hired his attorney sometime around the time we found out.”
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NFLPA initiating investigation into Tua’s concussion protocol
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