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2 hours ago, billsfan714 said:
There hasn't been a tank this obvious since the Pens and Mario. AFC East gonna have two guys who have won national championships and Josh......Pats to be determined.
Just not seeing it. I actually give the players and coaches a lot of credit. They are playing hard every week. I’ve been waiting for a give up type performance, but it hasn’t happened.
Also the Jets are mostly healthy. It’s not as if it’s a roster littered with guys not playing.
The Jets are 0-12 because they are simply not good. They are baron at some key positions (CB, LB, TE) and getting mostly terrible QB play. Obviously the play calling also leaves a lot to be desired.
They have also have not caught a break from a scheduling standpoint. Constantly getting teams coming off a loss down the stretch which mitigates the chance for a letdown game.
It’s hard to see a path to victory the next two weeks on the road vs Seattle and the Rams who are neck and neck for the division title. Beyond that you have the Browns at home and finish up on the road vs the Pats.
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It’s absurd to think Williams/Jets purposely tanked on that last series. As one poster mentioned, they had a RZ stand on the previous drive. Why weren’t they tanking then?
Take it for what it was. An awful defensive play from a coach that his known for letting his ego get the best of him.
If any team Is tanking its Jacksonville by electing to play Mike Glennon over Minshew who is clearly the better option.
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Bill O’Brien trading that man for
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Wow that sucks guys
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5 minutes ago, Ya Digg? said:
2nd best coach in the division?!?! Who would he be instantly better than?? I assume you’re saying he’s behind Belichick, so you’re saying he’s better than a potential coach of the year candidate in Buffalo and Flores in Miami who has had his team play well above expectations for 2 years now! I know you’re trying to get a ride out of people, but dude get your head out of your a** first
ResumeLook at what he did in San Francisco with Alex Smith and Kaepernick. Flores and McDermott are good coaches but haven’t reached the pinnacle like Harbaugh had. Also Jim Harbaugh has way more name recognition. He would be the biggest star coach the Jets have brought in since Parcells.
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I think Jim would instantly become the 2nd best coach in the division. I could definitely see him quitting on Michigan. They aren’t worthy of him.
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13 minutes ago, Thurman#1 said:
Maybe. They're 4th next year in available cap space, and next year will be a terrific year for picking up FAs at low prices, because there will be very little cap money available for most teams. I'd take the over on .499, that's for sure. My best guess (far too early, of course) would be 8-8 or 9-7. I do expect real improvement.
You're right that it wasn't only losing Brady that killed them. Their optouts hurt a lot and they really had sold out to win during their window. But they will recover quickly, and the optouts will really help, in that they had very little space left under the cap before the optouts, and now they're 4th highest in the league in present cap space, and can roll over $25M, which will help a ton next year.
Miami and the Jets also have a ton of cap space and a lot more draft capital to work with.
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1 hour ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said:
He's already the GM maybe without the official title and he's pretty bad it it.
Read an article recently and talked about the problems in NE and poor drafting was one of the big things they mentioned. They showed a chart going back to was it 2011 or 2013 , somewhere around that time frame and listed the number of pro bowl players every team has had. NE was down close to around #20, the Bills had more players than they did.
Hes drafted a ton of talent over the yearsEdleman, Gronk, McCourtey, Collins, Chandler Jones, Wilfork, Mayo, Hightower, Jimmy G.
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1 hour ago, RochesterLifer said:
Is this meant as evidence of success or failure?
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37 minutes ago, MJS said:
Belichick has made plenty of good trades over the years. And he takes the "sunk cost" mentality and moves on from players that don't work out quickly. But his drafting has always been below average. Now, part of that may be he is always drafting so low.
He seems to neglect certain positions, though, like WR and RB.
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Do you think his next act is as a GM/football czar?
Do you think he would be successful in that role or is he Phil Jackson 2.0?
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1 hour ago, JoPoy88 said:
Valid questions. I assume that even if Woody decides to retire after playing make-believe diplomat that Gase is gone. If he does come back to actually run his team I do think it’s likely he completely cleans house.
I don’t think anybody really knows to what degree Woody was involved over the past four years. I’m sure he and his brother talked and were aligned on some of these decisions. It’s not like Woody was on Mars and couldn’t be contacted.
Joe Douglas signed a 6 year deal to be a GM. There is no chance the Johnsons are completely cleaning house and firing him after one offseason.
Will they let him take the lead and hire the next coach? That is the question
As it currently stands Douglas does not have the power to hire/fire the HC. Gase reports to ownership which is something the fan base has been heavily critical about.
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3 hours ago, JoPoy88 said:
Will the Jets turn it around under Woody? 😁
Woody has been out of pocket since 2016 when he signed on as the Ambassador to the UK for the Trump administration.He handed the keys to the organization to his brother who has somehow been more incompetent than he was.
With Trump losing re-election he is now nearly certain to return which will add another variable to the Jets offseason.
With a treasure chest of draft picks and ample cap space the Jets can turn this around pretty quickly if the Johnson’s can bring in a real head coach.
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1 hour ago, Big C said:
I think cover 0 is already used infrequently, because it is a very boom-or-bust coverage. Young and inexperienced QBs often have a hard time diagnosing and attacking it which is why Josh was seeing it a lot.
The Patriots ran a ton of cover zero in the 2019 Super Bowl against the Rams and also had a ton of success with it last regular season. It seemed to expose a flaw in a lot of the modern offensive concepts that are predominantly designed to beat zone coverage (you rarely see man coverage in the NFL).This year offenses seem ready for it. Compare the Jets on Monday night against the Pats to their performance last year. Flacco torched them when they tried cover zero.
Cover zero really only works if you have elite CBs. Rex had success with it when he had Revis and Cromartie. When those guys left he got burned over the top.
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How much of an effect has the new ownership
had on the organization?
Do you think Ralph would have hired McDermott and Beane and the results would be similar?
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I think Cover 0 is something that NFL offenses now have the answers to and you will see it less frequently
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A little context into what we saw tonight. They made Flacco to Perriman look like Montana to Rice.-
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7 minutes ago, Nitro said:
He played like a guy paid to take a dive. That was some bad QB play on his part.
That throw to Crowder at the end of the half was the best throw I’ve seen a Jet QB make in twenty years.
Flacco can still move the ball if you give him time. Problem is he can’t move and he throws picks (should have had another with McCourtey dropping one in the chest).
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Folk has always been clutch for the Jets!
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Folk Hero!
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Seriously since when do refs call holding on the Pats?
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Brutal
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Newton needs 7 here!
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Now the refs are calling penalties against pats?
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It’s official. The New York Jets legendarily suck!
in The Stadium Wall Archives
Posted · Edited by Hapless Bills Fan
so post makes sense post merge
[Do you feel bad for Gregg Williams?]
A coaching career that started out with promise ends with him as a National laughing stock.
The ESPN taking heads are making fun of him this morning. I kind of feel bad for the guy.