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  1. 48 minutes ago, thebandit27 said:


    Yup.

     

    Guys that are athletic, can rush the passer as a non-blitzer, and can acquit themselves in coverage aren’t common enough to fall far.


    He is a beast. Probably too many needs at WR and OL for the Bills to take him, right? Would he replace Lorenzo Alexander?

     

    1 hour ago, Kirby Jackson said:

    When we did the mock on here I took him to the Raiders at 20. Just feels like he’s a guy that brings a high ceiling and is a great fit in today’s NFL. He can do a lot and is still raw. 


    Mayock wouldn’t be afraid to take him. 
     

     

     

  2. 5 minutes ago, BillsFan17 said:

    I never denied Beane doesnt make moves. That's not the point, the point was, I said Beane pointed out that there was great depth at the WR position, so much so that he felt its entirely possible a day three guy could come in any take a starters job.

     

    That was a quote about this years class, about this years WRs, and his sentiment about the depth of the class.

     

    Showing me his feelings about approaching the draft in 2018, in no way indicates to me hell likely trade up for one of the top three guys in the 2020 class.

     

    Is it possible, I'm sure it is, Beane moves around. McDermott twice traded up when be ran the draft for Zay/Dion. Again, I'm saying its impossible. I simply point out I think it's bad asset management.

     

    However, again, I'm talking about potentially waiting because

    1) history has been on the side of guys producing all throughout the draft at WR. Especially in recent years.

    2) Our own GM having referenced the depth RECENTLY AND ABOUT THIS DRAFT.

    3) I sincerely doubt they value WR in the same light they value QB/MLB. Which, again, when you look at the context of making bold trades in the first round. Premium positions...


    I personally feel that Beane is looking to trade up for K’Lavon Chaisson. However, if one of the top 3 WRs drop, and Beane thinks they have a chance at being ELITE, I believe he’ll pull the trigger. How many elite players do the scouts consider there to be in this draft? 10, 15, 20? I’m guessing that Beane wants a shot at one of those elite players, and it doesn’t matter if that elite player is an Edge, CB, OT, Safety, or WR. 
     

    Everyone’s entitled to their opinion. That’s just mine. 
     


     

  3. 4 minutes ago, BillsFan17 said:

    Lmao yes, cause context matters, the situations matter, the state the team is in from then to now matters.

     

    How the GM approaches one draft, and the positions absolutely bears context year to year.

     

    Unless of course you expect Beane to trade up for a QB/LB again this year...

     

    Again, you have also yet to prove where I was wrong in WRs beyond the first round being as productive if not more than those taken ahead of them. You're child who doesnt like facts.


    Beane is Beane and he is always looking to make the roster better. Doesn’t matter when he said it.  I think he’s looking for ELITE players, not bunch of middle of the road players. Allen (trade up), Edmunds (trade up), Ford (trade up), Knox (trade up), and they tried to trade for an elite WR Antonio Brown.  
     

     

     

     

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  4. 2 minutes ago, BillsFan17 said:

    Thats from 2018, not this year, and not in regard to any of the players being discussed. Are we really going to apply logic from a different draft class, at a different state of the franchise, with vastly different circumstances, one in which the targets were not WR?


    Hmm. Didn’t realize it was from 2018, but it’s still Beanes thoughts. I think there was another thread on here where Beane was quoted as saying he’d trade up if the board called for it. Beane said he would trade up for a guy, like Edmunds, if a talented player was dropping; a player that stood out from the rest. 
     

     

  5. 34 minutes ago, BillsFan17 said:

    Care to link where Beane said that about this class?

     

    https://www.buffalobills.com/news/why-wide-receiver-draft-prospects-like-what-they-see-from-the-buffalo-bills

     

    Cause he is even more, with even those in the media thinking the depth of the class could allow us to wait.


    Reed83HOF had a thread about this a few weeks ago. Lots of interesting info in it. 
     


     

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  6. Used to be a diehard Raiders fan. Read “Ken Stabler and the Oakland Raiders” book over a hundred times. I took it out so many times at the school library, that the librarian gave it to me. Kenny King, Fred Biletnikoff, Ken Stabler, Todd Christensen, Lester Hayes, Jim Plunkett, Marcus Allen, Cliff Branch, etc. were my favorites, but Dave Casper was my all time favorite. My Dad was a Bills fan. He took me to a Raiders-Bills game at Orchard Park when I was a youngster. I was in such absolute awe of the tailgate experience, stadium, and fans, that by the end of the game, I was a Bills fan. I’ve been a Bills fan ever since. 
     

     

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  7. 2 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

    EDIT: I should clarify that I do like him. I have a borderline 1st on him. The above is what has to this point held me back from going with a true 1st round grade. 


    I’m just looking at YouTube vids and don’t claim to be a draft prospect expert, but this guy looks elite. I’m getting excited about the possibility of him on the Bills D. I was thinking they’d trade up for him, but if you think he’s a borderline 1st round talent, then I’d be extremely happy to get him at 22. 

     

    I would go all LSU for the first 3 picks. 3 of these guys: Chaisson, Jefferson, Fulton, Edwards-Helaire. 
     

     

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