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4 minutes ago, Jaraxxus said:
And this matters to.me why? Have never been to Tulsa, have no relatives from Tulsa. Hell, my grandfather was in the old country when this happened.
Have you checked the news? You seem very confused about why people are upset. You seem confused about the calls of "racism."
Did you think this was a personal accusation that you time traveled to 1921 and did this?
Are you able to conceive of the idea that other people exist besides people you've met in person?
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Just now, Foxx said:
obsess much?
Check it out — Reality Check is following my every post with the same exact message, copy/pasted. I'm simply responding to him in kind.
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1 minute ago, Foxx said:
idiot, look to the bottom of the graphic and see who issued it.
are you really this stoopid?
Moron. I see it. Did you go to that link and verify the numbers yourself, is what I am asking. Or did you just assume because it looks official it must be right?
In other words, you're taking the meme's word for it? There's a graph and the URL looks like it is right. Is it? Do you know?
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2 minutes ago, Foxx said:
it's called, 'black on black crime' because of the staggering numbers, idiot.
Curious, where did you find the graphic?
Did you check the source yourself?
Or did you just rely on this meme to make the point for you?
Did you read the article, or just go to your favorite Facebook group?
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Just now, Reality Check said:
You are good with violence from anybody but a white person. You are the racist apparently.
Are you okay with violence as long as a white person is not the victim?
Are you okay with violence as long as someone you know isn't the victim?
To what degree are you okay with violence? Would you mind saying so on camera and also promote your business?
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2 minutes ago, Reality Check said:
Violence isn't relevant to me. It is to you though. Your position is that black on black violence is good as long as a white person doesn't do it. You and many others are complete hypocrites on the subject. You also support black people killing their babies. Do you also support black people calling each other the N-word? You seem to support everything that is destroying the black community. You also fail to mention all the drugs pumped into the inner cities destroying black families. What is your % on being a racist yourself?
What is your solution to white on white violence?
What is your solution to police violence?
Do you support white people using the N-word "since black people do it"? Since you're not afraid of violence, why not make a point of putting your money where your mouth is? Use that word in a video to help promote your business. It'd get people to see it.
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1 minute ago, Foxx said:
you're delusional on the news front too? mmmkay.
You just tried repeating this as fact. It literally states in his bio that he's a MAGA troll. You fell for it.... because.... you are too stupid.... to know.... that you are stupid.
If you weren't stupid.... you wouldn't try so hard... to insist on various fictions.... but.... that is what you are doing.... to maintain your delusion.... that you aren't stupid. Tried to speak slowly.
This is the account that popularized it, a MAGA influencer. The video comes from FromKalen, who is recipient of mysterious conservative funding (just like Daily Wire and all these other right-wing mouthpiece jokers -- literally a mind control conspiracy that only dumb people fall for, but, I've also seen dumb people for Scientology; dumb people gonna be dumb and believe the ***** they wanna believe) for Scriberr, which declares itself non-partisan but only perpetuates right-wing talking points.
OK? So when you go "HA! Media manipulation? You think I'd ever fall for that?" You... just.... DID.
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1 minute ago, Foxx said:
also, i see where they have instituted reparations in CHAZ already. every white person there had to give one black person $10 before they left.
The $10 bit was a fiction from a right-wing troll account that spread among dumbasses looking for things to confirm their own beliefs. Well done.
You're much too clever to fall for manipulation........................................................
Quotewow. i knew you were out there but i didn't know just how delusional you were. i think you should seriously consider seeking help for the disconnect you have with the realities on the ground.
yes, the media is actively manipulating opinion. is that a news flash of some sort?
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Just now, Foxx said:
wow. i knew you were out there but i didn't know just how delusional you were. i think you should seriously consider seeking help for the disconnect you have with the realities on the ground.
yes, the media is actively manipulating opinion. is that a news flash of some sort?
Your first line answers your last question
Just now, Reality Check said:Harassment on the PPP message board is about as real of a crime as Russian collusion. Are you saying that black on black violence is good as long as a white person doesn't do it? Do you support the abortion of black babies too?
What a series of stupid questions. Are you saying white on white violence is OK? What is your solution to white on white violence?
Abortion is best when you're involved. Any future sexual assault victims of yours would be well advised.
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Just now, Reality Check said:
Are you saying that black on black violence is good as long as a white person doesn't do it?
What a stupid question. Are you saying that white on white violence is OK as long as there are no black people involved?
What is your solution to white on black violence?
What is your solution to white on white violence?
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1 minute ago, Reality Check said:
David Duke is an FBI informant. Why are you promoting him? What is your solution to black on black violence? Is black people being killed OK as long as a white person doesn't do it?
"Black on black violence" is a KKK fiction repeated through generations. Are you in the KKK?
What is your solution to white on black violence? Is it OK as long as a white person does it?
What is your solution to white on white violence? Is it OK as long as no black people are involved?
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Just now, Reality Check said:
Race is irrelevant to the subject of violence. You are right, there is no racism.
That's not the point, at all. Do you have assisted living help?
What is your solution to white on black violence?
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Cute story. Some logic gaps and questionable decisions with the prose. But I'd say you have a real shot at the title for best short story from a fifth grader in the region.
Did you become so engrossed in writing this story that you began to feel it was real?
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Just now, Reality Check said:
How is Chaz these days? Is it what you had hoped for? Also, what is your solution to black on black violence?
You'd know if you read the post you quoted. Also, here you go,
Also, what is your solution to white on black violence? Also, what is your definition of harassment?
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1 minute ago, Reality Check said:
Your envy is showing. By the way. What is your solution to black on black violence?
Here you go.
What is your solution to white on black violence?
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9 minutes ago, Reality Check said:
What is your solution to black on black violence?
Here you go.
What is your solution to white on black violence?
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10 minutes ago, Reality Check said:
What is your solution to black on black violence?
Here you go.
What is your solution to white on black violence?
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Just now, Reality Check said:
What is your solution to black on black violence?
Read the thread for answers. I made it just for you.
Since you have said you're white, and only interested in things that concern you, a white man. What is your solution to white on black violence? What is your solution to white on white violence? Do you need examples for either of these?
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1 minute ago, Reality Check said:
Well said comrade. By the way. What is your solution to black on black violence?
I made a whole thread just for you on why every time you say that, David Duke gets a *****. Check it out.
What is your solution to white on white violence? Do you need examples of white on white violence?
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14 minutes ago, Reality Check said:
Then we agree. Race is not relevant to any of this so called discussion. Now shove your racism nonsense up your ass.
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What do we agree on? You didn't read any of that, did you?
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This has come up repeatedly on this board. @Reality Check in particular has been fascinated by the subject but I've seen it from more than a dozen of you in, what, a week?
I won't copy and paste this full article, but this is a comprehensive explanation for understanding that "Black on Black crime" is a white supremacist talking point. When you bring up "Black on Black crime", you think you're bringing up a good point maybe, but what you are saying is "I am a mouthpiece for the KKK."
71 sources cited.
Maybe ask yourself, why is "White on White crime" not a phrase? Ted Bundy, Charles Manson -- almost every serial killer, really -- why isn't that "White on White crime"? School shooters, even if it's an all-white school like Columbine, also not "White on White crime." It's instead... "mental health." That's because America is used to treating White people as fully human and we culturally celebrate our White criminals as outlaws and rebel heroes... some even fly flags of White criminals today and claim it as heritage!
. White people are allowed to be complicated and multi-faceted in Western culture, but only White people. Every other race is a "type" of some kind. We don't see a White serial killer and think "well, that's just how all White people are, they all are thieves and murderers at heart." Although based on the history of White civilization, maybe that would be the right conclusion?
White people really will be like "I don't see race. But these blacks are out of control!"
What is "crime" if you want to really test your little noggin? Where does "crime" come from? What motivates it? What prevents it? Why don't upper middle class people tend to rob liquor stores?
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3 hours ago, RocCityRoller said:
Not sure how this supports or denounces what I said. Seems like BLM and CHAZ not 100% in alignment.
Either way not really the point.
Borders, armed guards and ID required is the point, by people who said this was backwards, wrong and 'racist' just a few months ago.
I support these measures 100%, for a legally recognized state.
When I want them I am labelled a racist, backwards, deplorable.
When the left does it, it's common sense.
Double standard.
Not really supporting/denouncing your position but to clarify about the Fox News photoshop, it's just worth considering that the media is actively manipulating opinions about this. It's not subtle.
As to your position, no leftist I know opposes "Borders, armed guards and ID" — however where you will find disagreement is on the usage of those tools. But when you state it like that, it does make it seem like the left is more unreasonable, so I get why you'd be less specific.
The simple reality is that there just aren't that many "double standards" on the left. It's a pretty consistent standard! Peace, freedom, liberty and equality for all.
The right likes to disagree with all of those standards but likes to claim the words as their own, because they do sound like good principles. And it's easy to say you're for "peace, freedom, liberty and equality for all" without actually living up to it, which, there's no examples of Republicans living up to those principles. You don't see a lot of Republicans crusading for peace or freedom or anything that is "for all."
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3 hours ago, Chef Jim said:
I assume many of them hate Trump. So why resort to an obviously photoshopped picture? Well other than you’re a toolSpeaking of photoshop, did this manipulative little FOX News scheme also draw your ire?
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Most White Americans don't know anything about this event in 1921, or found out about it from an HBO show last year.
Learning more about your country's history will help you to better understand the events of today. @Chef Jim this may be of interest to you in particular.
Please note the "News Blackout" portion especially.
https://www.history.com/topics/roaring-twenties/tulsa-race-massacre
QuoteDuring the Tulsa Race Massacre (also known as the Tulsa Race Riot), which occurred over 18 hours on May 31-June 1, 1921, a white mob attacked residents, homes and businesses in the predominantly black Greenwood neighborhood of Tulsa, Oklahoma. The event remains one of the worst incidents of racial violence in U.S. history, and one of the least-known: News reports were largely squelched, despite the fact that hundreds of people were killed and thousands left homeless.
Black Wall Street
In much of the country, the years following World War I saw a spike in racial tensions, including the resurgence of the white supremacist group the Ku Klux Klan, numerous lynchings and other acts of racially motivated violence, as well as efforts by African Americans to prevent such attacks on their communities.
By 1921, fueled by oil money, Tulsa was a growing, prosperous city with a population of more than 100,000 people. But crime rates were high, and vigilante justice of all kinds wasn’t uncommon.
Tulsa was also a highly segregated city: Most of the city’s 10,000 black residents lived in a neighborhood called Greenwood, which included a thriving business district sometimes referred to as the Black Wall Street.
READ MORE: Tulsa's 'Black Wall Street' Flourished as a Self-Contained Hub in the Early 1900s
What Caused the Tulsa Race Massacre?
On May 30, 1921, a young black teenager named Dick Rowland entered an elevator at the Drexel Building, an office building on South Main Street. At some point after that, the young white elevator operator, Sarah Page, screamed; Rowland fled the scene. The police were called, and the next morning they arrested Rowland.
By that time, rumors of what supposedly happened on that elevator had circulated through the city’s white community. A front-page story in the Tulsa Tribune that afternoon reported that police had arrested Rowland for sexually assaulting Page.
As evening fell, an angry white mob was gathering outside the courthouse, demanding the sheriff hand over Rowland. Sheriff Willard McCullough refused, and his men barricaded the top floor to protect the black teenager.
Around 9 p.m., a group of about 25 armed black men—including many World War I veterans—went to the courthouse to offer help guarding Rowland. After the sheriff turned them away, some of the white mob tried unsuccessfully to break into the National Guard armory nearby.
With rumors still flying of a possible lynching, a group of around 75 armed black men returned to the courthouse shortly after 10 pm, where they were met by some 1,500 white men, some of whom also carried weapons.
Greenwood Burns
After shots were fired and chaos broke out, the outnumbered group of black men retreated to Greenwood.
Over the next several hours, groups of white Tulsans—some of whom were deputized and given weapons by city officials—committed numerous acts of violence against black people, including shooting an unarmed man in a movie theater.
The false belief that a large-scale insurrection among black Tulsans was underway, including reinforcements from nearby towns and cities with large African-American populations, fueled the growing hysteria.
As dawn broke on June 1, thousands of white citizens poured into the Greenwood District, looting and burning homes and businesses over an area of 35 city blocks. Firefighters who arrived to help put out fires later testified that rioters had threatened them with guns and forced them to leave.
According to a later Red Cross estimate, some 1,256 houses were burned; 215 others were looted but not torched. Two newspapers, a school, a library, a hospital, churches, hotels, stores and many other black-owned businesses were among the buildings destroyed or damaged by fire.
By the time the National Guard arrived and declared martial law shortly before noon, the riot had effectively ended. Though guardsmen helped put out fires, they also imprisoned many black Tulsans, and by June 2 some 6,000 people were under armed guard at the local fairgrounds.
Aftermath of the Tulsa Race Massacre
In the hours after the Tulsa Race Massacre, all charges against Dick Rowland were dropped. The police concluded that Rowland had most likely stumbled into Page, or stepped on her foot. Kept safely under guard in the jail during the riot, he left Tulsa the next morning and reportedly never returned.
The “official” tally of deaths in the massacre was 36 people killed, including 10 white people. Even by that estimate—which historians now consider much too low—the Tulsa Race Massacre stood as one of the deadliest riots in U.S. history, behind only the New York Draft Riots of 1863, which killed at least 119 people.
In the years to come, as black Tulsans worked to rebuild their ruined homes and businesses, segregation in the city only increased, and Oklahoma’s newly established branch of the KKK grew in strength.
News Blackout
For decades, there were no public ceremonies, memorials for the dead or any efforts to commemorate the events of May 31-June 1, 1921. Instead, there was a deliberate effort to cover them up.
The Tulsa Tribune removed the front-page story of May 31 that sparked the chaos from its bound volumes, and scholars later discovered that police and state militia archives about the riot were missing as well. As a result, until recently the Tulsa Race Massacre was rarely mentioned in history books, taught in schools or even talked about.
Scholars began to delve deeper into the story of the riot in the 1970s, after its 50th anniversary had passed. In 1996, on the riot’s 75th anniversary, a service was held at the Mount Zion Baptist Church, which rioters had burned to the ground, and a memorial was placed in front of Greenwood Cultural Center.
Tulsa Race Riot Commission Established, Renamed
The following year, after an official state government commission was created to investigate the Tulsa Race Riot, scientists and historians began looking into long-ago stories, including numerous victims buried in unmarked graves.
In 2001, the report of the Race Riot Commission concluded that between 100 and 300 people were killed and more than 8,000 people made homeless over those 18 hours in 1921.
A bill in the Oklahoma State Senate requiring that all Oklahoma high schools teach the Tulsa Race Riot failed to pass in 2012, with its opponents claiming schools were already teaching their students about the riot.
According to the State Department of Education, it has required the topic in Oklahoma history classes since 2000 and U.S. history classes since 2004, and the incident has been included in Oklahoma history books since 2009.
In November 2018, the 1921 Race Riot Commission was officially renamed the 1921 Race Massacre Commission.
“Although the dialogue about the reasons and effects of the terms riot vs. massacre are very important and encouraged," said Oklahoma State Senator Kevin Matthews, "the feelings and interpretation of those who experienced this devastation as well as current area residents and historical scholars have led us to more appropriately change the name to the 1921 Race Massacre Commission.”
The news article:
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Are you fine with white people killing each other?
When does violence matter to you? Does it matter if it affects someone you know? Or only you, personally? Is violence an issue if your mom is raped? What if she's raped by a white man? What are you doing about white on white rape?
Should you be able to say the N word since black people do it? I'm sure you feel like you do. So why not go ahead and do so on camera, and help us promote your business. Guarantee that'll make people interested. You'll probably get new customers who like you a lot, even.
Well that is maybe not surprising that you'd harass me in the stupidest way possible. Show me any post where I say I support that. Do you have a lot of imaginary friends? You seem pretty good at making up imaginary people.