[Chargers reveal alternate uniforms which will be all gold]

oh boy... no. pee color. bleh

[Bills/Ravens/Eagles Super Bowl Favorites]

5 hours ago, Success said:

I really don't know what it takes for us to get over the hump.  We probably have 2 SB appearances already if we just squib kick in one game, and if Kincaid holds onto the 1st down pass last year.

 

The outcomes are so razor thin the deeper you get in the playoffs.  Feels like we can be the best team & play our best - and we still need a break or 2.  

 

nah, we just need a defense that can make a stop when it matters. F- Mcdermotts defense. 

[Bills Score 3 TDs in 77 seconds. Sept. 30, 1990]

was there as a kid. probably the loudest that place has ever been

[Ranking the 15 greatest Bills ever]

22 hours ago, EasternOHBillsFan said:

I'm sorry, but I cannot in good conscience leave off Mike Stratton, the heart of the Bills defense in the 1960s.

 

Dion Dawkins is in my mind the best LT this team has ever had and could be the greatest OL we have ever had. Many may disagree with that, but he locks it down covering his QBs blind spot, something I have not seen since Will Wolford was a Bill.

 

Bruce Smith

Josh Allen

O.J. Simpson

Thurman Thomas

Andre Reed

Jim Kelly

Butch Byrd

Eric Moulds

Billy Shaw

James Lofton

Dion Dawkins

Cornelius Bennett

Ted Washington

Mike Stratton

Darryl Talley

 

this is the list. 

[Who was invited to Josh and Hailee's wedding?]

7 hours ago, corta765 said:

That really awesome. As a big hockey fan I am quite jealous

It’s pretty cool just chatting. Insane career he had. It won’t let me upload the pic from the night they won… 🙄

[Who was invited to Josh and Hailee's wedding?]

On 6/5/2025 at 3:04 PM, corta765 said:

 

Ok you have my attention. How the f8ck did you get Jovo-Cop at yours

he's BFF's with my sister in-laws husband, I see him regularly. nice guy. fairly quiet, super cool talking to him about the Cup win last year. My brother in-law was drinking from the cup the night they won it in the locker room. wild pics

[Who was invited to Josh and Hailee's wedding?]

6 hours ago, Mango said:

 

This is a relatively A-List wedding. Those things are generally huge.

 

I would be shocked if there weren't at least 30 Bills currently on the roster in attendance. Then you have the ones that left that he's close with. It would be kind of crazy for a $300M QB not to invite most of his OL and WR room that's still on the roster from last year. 

 

Who gets invited to wedding for the mega wealthy is a totally different world.

I had Ed Jovanovski at mine lol! 

[Bills finalize coaching staff…some notes…]

looks like special teams wont be so special.... again... 

[Joey Bosa with a pulled calf]

and, it begins

 

[Rivalries Uniforms Coming]

9 minutes ago, Goin Breakdown said:

Is it true they aren't showing them until right before the game that they wear them?

I don't think so, Pretty sure the miami one leaked, their sports talk radio was talking about them. 

[Reminiscing about the last 5 years, is this franchise just cursed? It's mind boggling]

2 hours ago, zow2 said:

 

 

Oh man,  i sensed that he was getting close with a couple more playoff wins.  But to already have the most?!?  That's another indictment on McDermott's lousy playoff defensive performances in the biggest games. and of course special teams miscues.

Dudes a bum. 

[New McD comments about Coleman]

james hardy 2.0

 

[The Bills Have a Playoff Problem…But It’s Not Josh Allen (detailed breakdown)]

Sean. Mcdermott. Brandon. Beane. it's enraging and a crime. 

[Goodbye, old friend. Paying tribute to Rich Stadium-Highmark Stadium. Post your memories.]

3 hours ago, Wacka said:

That was 9/30/90. Was there. Have told this before. My dad was in the oncology ward at Mercy Hospital.The next day I went to pick up my mom who was visiting him all day at about 5 PM.  Told him about the game and we were ready to leave, Dad said he couldn't sleep and wanted to go to sleep. Suddenly, he starts coughing up blood(had lung cancer) and died a minute later.

my pet rabbit died that morning. Pales in comparison to that. Jesus. 

[Goodbye, old friend. Paying tribute to Rich Stadium-Highmark Stadium. Post your memories.]

was there in 1990, or 1989 when the bills scored 3 times in 70 (or so) seconds to beat the elway broncos. Was probably 9 or 10. hooked for life. 

 

[Shakir, Benford, Cook and Bernard: Who Gets a Contract Extension?]

4 hours ago, NoName said:

According to and article on DC, all four will be free agents at the end of the 2025-26 season.  The article also says that based on Spotrac, the four players are projected to get the following contracts:

 

• Benford 4 years for 91.9 Mil or 22.6 per year
• Shakir 19.3 mil per year (it didn't state years)
• Cook 10.2 mil per year (it didn't state years)
• Bernard 6.7 mil per year (it didn't state years)

Based on these projections:

which order would you prioritize signing the four soon to be free agents and why?

Should the Bills resign all four? If not, who should they keep?

Trade em all. cept cook. 

[Worst Bills Player of all time?]

37 minutes ago, Rigotz said:

Personally, I factor 3 things into "worst Bills player"

 

1) What was the investment made in them?

2) How did they play while on the Bills?

3) Did they have any success for another team?

 

I'm seeing a lot of "Maybin" and "Peterman" answers. Maybin had some success on the Jets and Peterman at least was in the league for a while... and was a 5th round pick.

 

To me, there's only one answer:

Mike Williams of the 2002 draft.

 

#4 overall pick.

Terrible for 3.5 years before the Bills gave up on him.

No other team gave him another chance for 4 full years after that.

Then played half a season (terribly) at a different position for one team. Then done.

 

That's pretty unprecedented. #4 overall pick to nobody willing to give him a shot, he was so bad.

 

 

"for the bills" is the only reason its maybin... the jets got what they could out of him sending him on what were essentially corner blitzes... 
IIRC mike williams didnt hold out like maybin.... but this IS a solid argument... Williams/Maybin 1a/1b ? deal? 

[Worst Bills Player of all time?]

3 hours ago, Heavy Kevi said:

 

 

Aaron Maybin immediately belongs on the list because he was a high draft pick and basically even every fan knew what the right pick was, but Bills still drafted the bust instead for one reason or another🤷🏻‍♂️. Orakpo was such an obviously better player/pick

 

A couple other all time obvious-even-to-casual-fans drafting blunders:

-James Hardy over Desean Jackson

-Cody Ford over DK Metcalf

-Torrell Troupe over Rob Gronkowski

whitner over ngata
Coleman over Dejean

The list is absolutely endless. 

[Worst Bills Player of all time?]

its Aaron Maybin. and it's not close. 

[This is now on Beane, no question he needs to step up.]

On 2/10/2025 at 7:34 PM, DrPJax said:

        You’re right , but demand anything you want , as a fan you will never be listened too or Cary any influence , unless you have the $ to speak to that owners or regime. Thats just nfl facts.  Marv said it best, listi to the fans and you’ll be sitting with them.  The reality is 8 years into a regime with an mvp qb, and for 8 years the defense or coaching has failed.  63 SB’s , Bills still with zero and further away as they can’t even get to 1. Bills would have been crushed worse yesterday. This team will not win one with Beane evaluating talent ( had many chances to improve d, dl, rush ) and we watched the eagles dj dismantle an o line while we  never touched Mahomes 2 weeks earlier .   Nothings changed. Eagles , chiefs have won SB’ s while this staff has a new way to falter yearly ( pretty bad you gave your main nemesis a player who caught 2 tds and stretches the field while taking a guy whose college skills aren’t translating to the nfl as one example ).   We are not transforming that dl in a year as we haven’t done it in 8 prior years. 
 

       This d has to change and it has been nothing but an abject failure.  Can’t bring in an outside guy like Fangio as it ruffles our HC authority and he is reluctant to change othert than forced to against the ravens.  Babich is just really a yes man , there has been little outside talent other than Brady brought in as he didn’t challenge mcds role.   He will leave after next year as Beane refuses to value the wr position.   It’s 8years;it is what it is now. They will get to the playoffs most years , but this staff is not visionary enough to shoot for the title.  Beanes said it all , he won’t take a shot as he fears rebuilding should he ever win a title, he is content to just be in the race , he doesn’t have the big balls to really go get the trophy.  
 

       Pretty sad that a great fan base has been reduced to being thrilled , happy , buying merch just because a unicorn qb won mvp by a narrow margin. I’m happy for Allen , but this franchise is 63 years with ZERO TITLES. Watching yesterdays eagles dominence under a less tenured coach, good but not great qb,  over a team that’s ended our season 4 x , proves how far this gm , and coach , and owner  just are outclassed by great gms who actually can recognize talent. Without the Allen pick , this staff would , should have been gone after losing at home to KC or after the 13 sec debacle. No one will take this team as a serious threat until they grasp , you win in the end with dominant line and a d scheme not based on turnovers as your only path. 
 

      Allen is being wasted here , never fully supported with more than a single wr with pro bowl talent. Beane said we needed WRs who catch the ball. Well, Coleman really proved how bills evaluate talent, by hope and not actual production. When it counted , Kincaid dropped yet another crucial pass.  .  The o had success because cook unexpectedly developed along with Davis and Johnson.   No wr came close to that type of production. We needed WRs similar to Andre Reed types, not occasional producers like beebe or aging guys like lofton.   Beane has failed at wr , dl , and oh, wasn’t that a rookie safety with a pick six yesterday , while our bishop had an int stolen from him by a smaller worthy  even having been burned for several explosive plays earlier in the year. Talent e v a l matters in this league. 8 years in , we have ONE all pro, mvp , and what other premiere talent , maybe Dawkins ? 
 

just saying , give me , prove to me , why year 9 will be the outlier that brings home a trophy?  60  plus years of facts would say differently. Other franchise keep improving and we don’t exist in a vacuum as they continue to improve. Bills are always a likeable , nice story , the perpetual underdog in a great humanitarian community.
 

     I Followed them, the Pirates, the Penguins (whenever they started) and the Celtics for 63 years , and only the Bills have consistently never won a title. Hard to fathom. All I’m saying is after all that time , I’ve learned never to believe in any huge miracles concerning the Bills.   Mcd and Beane are not the answer. The Bills still are my favorite sports franchise above every other in any sport, but they are what they are, a team to feel proud to follow from a great community similar to where I grew up , not far from Pittsburgh.
 

    But once again , yesterday’s SB. Proves why there are so many national skeptics ;just like the 4 SB LOSSES proved, until they actually field a legit , physical , defense with talent ( not just statistically top ten or 5 ) ,  even a great qb like Allen or mahomes can be shut down, and this staff has no clue how to do that. There are too many holes to fix in a year. Luckily we have a weak division. They will make the playoffs , but they can’t fix that d in a year. Answer this truthfully, do you really think the 2024 Bills belonged on that field against the Eagles? They never blitzed once , yet had essentially won by halftime shutting down Mahomes to 14 yards passing , yet the Bills gave up close to 10 yards a play while playing the same qb?    
       
       Even as a Bills lifelong fan , I could see we are not close to the same level.   The only way this gets fixed is by bringing in a d coordinator who is an assistant head coach and Mcd has to accept a hands off role , just be a head coach , and I would give Beane one last draft.  From there , if he again can’t “ give up picks” , I would bring in someone to run the draft and Beane can manage contracts , cap issues , etc. Keep the same structure, waste Allen’s career as it will be another drought when he leaves , and PEGULA  will leave unfulfilled especially as it was a dream to get the Lombardi alongside his wonderful wife   At this point , is never winning a SB , being bridesmaids , really any better that dwelling in the basement ; neither one will change your legacy.   You have nothing left to lose.  If teams like the eagles , rams , bucs , etc can find winning staffs , why settle?  

 

     Keep hoping for the 9 th year to be that outlier while changing nothing.  Let’s enjoy the best qb play in Bills history , but it takes more. Tom Brady won 7 , Mahomes already 4/7 I think, at this rate I expect Hurts and Washington’s qb to win one  again prior to Josh.   It’s the ultimate team sport like Siriani said, including coaching and getting talent.   8 years gone , that’s an eternity in today’s NFL W free agency. Yeah, let’s keep running it back!  Faithful , not so hopeful , go Bills. 

 

I agree 1000% on all points. Awesome post 

[It's the defensive line, stupid!]

10 minutes ago, JohnNord said:

Yeah the reason he fell was because there were concerns about whether he could play as a traditional boundary corner.   I’m just pretty down on the Coleman pick after what I saw toward the end of the season.  Really hope he surprises us.  

To say that the coaching and roster sucks is patently wrong.  As you pointed out they’ve been very successful.  
 

Where I think you can criticize is finding high end talent at a few key positions - specially DL and WR.   
 

I did think this roster lacked talent overall but to win 13 games was quite the accomplishment 

the bills win despite the talent desparity and mcdermotts horrific in game decisions. 17 is the MVP for that reason alone. 2 pro bowlers. 1 not named allen. does mcdermott get the most out of bums? yes. does he poopie his wittle pants on the biggest of stages? yes. Only way to win a lombardi is to make the roster mcdermott proof. JA17 will do the rest. 

[It's the defensive line, stupid!]

8 minutes ago, JohnNord said:

Cooper plays NCB.  Are you going to take Taron Johnson off the field?  
 

If you want to lament the Coleman pick after year 1…. T’Vondre Sweat or Ladd McConkey seem to have been the missed opportunities 

oh wow. I didn't realize dejean was a corner. I always thought he was a saftey... oops. I stand corrected. Sweat, McConkey were the picks. 

 

[It's the defensive line, stupid!]

1 hour ago, wppete said:

Very true. Roseman has done an incredible job. Again, cant say the same for Beane. Beane and McDermott hit the jackpot getting Josh Allen. If it wasn’t for Josh McBeane would be long gone. 

hundred percent. if you read these boards, they're unflappable in the eyes of MANY here... when reality is, they've done more to hurt a once in a lifetime qb's chances at more than 1 ring. 

3 hours ago, Big Turk said:

 

IT's not like the Eagles haven't swung and missed, they just aren't afraid to keep doing it...like when they drafted WR Jalen Reagor the pick before Justin Jefferson.

also not afraid to switch coaches. yes, even superbowl winning ones. 

[This is now on Beane, no question he needs to step up.]

3 hours ago, Jerome007 said:

I admit yesterday it was almost a shock to see both defenses. KC's defense played well for 3 quarters, and all year, really. The Cheaps' O was barely average all year expect... against the Bills.  The Eagles created huge QB pressure with just the 4 DLinemen, that was the surprise of the game IMO. And we can't expect that in one year. But wow, the Bills D, especially the DLine, looks weak compared to the two we saw yesterday. Or the Ravens for that matter.

 

Our offense is great though. The OLine, running backs...and the MVP. Yes, yes, one good WR could change things. But that's quite impressive. Just one would open up everything more, and yet the O is already the strength. It's the D that is weak. I know here the complaining was that all the picks went mostly to the D. Well, it needs to happen... again.

 

Oh, it's a good thing we will change special teams coach too!

we can absolutely expect the DL to be lights out in 1 year. PHI did it. and they rode it all the way to the superbowl trophy. Demand more from these guys. they all must do better. 

[The next Chief milestone, the 90-93 Bills]

as if i couldn't hate that team any more than I already do.