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    Biden, A Good American President, Pilfers Classified Docs

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    Just now, ChiGoose said:


    So you think Pence should be indicted then?

     

    So Biden took the documents intentionally and then suddenly decided he wanted to hurt himself politically by telling on himself? This is what we are going with as the most logical explanation?

    No. A guy with a lifelong record of lies is now a paragon of virtue. That’s the most logical explanation. He’s…fine. Carry on. 
     

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    Biden, A Good American President, Pilfers Classified Docs

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    Just now, ChiGoose said:


    You still haven’t answered my question:

     

    If Biden did this intentionally and had been getting away with it for years, why would he suddenly turn himself in?

     

    Also, do you believe Pence took the documents intentionally?

    I answered your second question. Attention to detail is important for someone that paints themselves as a purveyor of logic beyond that of the common man. Please read more carefully going forward. 
     

    To the first question I don’t know. I do know that guilty individuals sometimes try to ease their situations by cooperating and pleading rather than obfuscating. You seem to feel covering up is the only way forward for someone in his position   The guy has a lifelong record of telling lies. To me, that makes him untrustworthy. To you, that makes him…fine. 
     

     

    Biden, A Good American President, Pilfers Classified Docs

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    Posted · Edited by JDHillFan

    18 minutes ago, ChiGoose said:


    Only top secret documents require a SCIF. Secret and confidential documents can be viewed outside of a SCIF. So the docs that look really bad for Biden are the ten with top secret classification. Lower classified documents (apparently) can get picked up with non-classified documents unintentional. 
     

    Do you think Pence took the documents intentionally?

    Intentionally, yes. With malicious intent, very unlikely. My opinion. 
     

    You, as the gatekeeper of logic and common sense, want to believe that a 50+ year creature of Washington, one who has told easily disproved tall tales every step of the way, is a victim and is being done wrong by incompetent staff and is now a stand-up guy for immediately reporting himself after several years of not doing so. In drips and drabs, no less. 
     

    To use one of your terms, that’s wish-casting. 

    Biden, A Good American President, Pilfers Classified Docs

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    4 minutes ago, ChiGoose said:


    I’m asking honestly, what’s your theory of the case here? Why go to the feds if this was intentional and they weren’t already aware. 
     

    My theory is simply that whoever packed up his offices grabbed documents they shouldn’t have. Seems like that’s the case with Pence. I think Jimmy Carter walked away with government docs accidentally too. 
     

    If Biden took them intentionally and they can prove that, he should be indicted. Barring a change in facts, I just don’t see that as the likely outcome here. Biden and Pence appear to be in the same bucket with what we know at this stage. 

    Focus for a moment on the documents he has had since his time as a senator. They didn’t accidentally get packed up. He took them. That’s the only way to get them out of a SCIF. IF HE’S WILLING TO DO THAT AS A SENATOR, DO YOU THINK HE WOULD BE MORE RESERVED AS A VICE PRESIDENT OR PRESIDENT? OR DOES LOGIC TELL YOU THAT HE MIGHT THINK HE COULD GET AWAY WITH MORE THAN EVER BEFORE.

     

    apologies for the all caps. Unintentional and I do not wish to correct it. Maybe that’s what happened to Biden Trump and Pence. Unintentional and they just did not wish to correct it until many many years later in Biden’s case and never in trumps case.

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    Biden, A Good American President, Pilfers Classified Docs

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    8 minutes ago, ChiGoose said:


    Then why suddenly decide to tell on yourself? And then conduct a search and turn over more documents. 
     

    If this has been intentional and he’d been getting away with it for years, why would he tell the Feds about it?


    He informed the government immediately. Same day they were discovered, I believe. 

    I guess logic and common sense tells us that this fine public servant, who’s made a career of bullsh*ting that has lasted several decades, decided after many years to just come clean because it was the right thing to do. No external forces at play whatsoever. 
     

    If you are going to paint yourself as the voice of reason please at least shoot for some consistency across ideological lines. You are diminishing your own standing as an expert here. 

    Biden, A Good American President, Pilfers Classified Docs

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    1 minute ago, ChiGoose said:


    I don’t know. That’s what you have an investigation for. 
     

    Pence says that his documents were inadvertently packed with his stuff. Maybe it’s the same with Biden. Maybe it’s not. We’ll see. 

     

    Clearly the controls around classified documents aren’t effective. 

    Occam’s Razor - it takes a willful act to remove classified docs from a SCIF and a SCIF is where a congressperson would be reviewing classified documents.
    You being the foremost practitioner of logic on this board, I figured you would know that. 

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    Biden, A Good American President, Pilfers Classified Docs

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    9 minutes ago, ChiGoose said:


    Ah, the good old “Deep State” theory. Can’t possibly be that Trump wanted to take documents while Biden and Pence (or their staff) were careless. 
     

    Nope, there’s a secret cabal that’s so incredibly powerful that they control everything. Yep, that makes more sense than the simplest explanations that all of the evidence already points to. 

    You wouldn’t answer this previously - did the classified documents from Biden’s time as a senator just accidentally leave the SCIF with him? Stuck to his shoe? Fell in his pocket? Surely you have a logical explanation that absolves this fine public servant. 
     

    Accidental spillage!! 

    Georgia election laws and MLB

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    12 minutes ago, B-Man said:

     

     

     

    OCEANIA HAS NEVER BEEN AT WAR WITH GEORGIA: 

     

    Democrats Do an About-Face on Georgia.

     

    For much of 2021, every major Democrat, including President Biden, denounced the state of Georgia as a racist disgrace when its Republican-controlled state government enacted an election-reform law that they insisted was was a voter-suppression effort and “Jim Crow 2.0.”

     

    But 2022 brought record turnout in both the primaries and midterm elections, and the state’s African Americans reported great satisfaction with and trust in their voting experience.

     

    Now, Joe Biden wants Georgia to vote early in the presidential-primary process, and just about every major southern Democrat wants Atlanta to host the party’s next national convention. Somehow, in a very short period of time, Georgia went from too racist to host the 2021 Major League Baseball All-Star game to deserving to host the 2024 Democratic National Convention.

     

     

    https://www.nationalreview.com/the-morning-jolt/democrats-do-an-about-face-on-georgia/

     

     

     

    Since at least 1941, the left has always been able to do a complete 180 at will, since they know the media won’t point out their hypocrisy du jour.

     

    https://pjmedia.com/eddriscoll/2014/09/25/the-party-of-death-n259166

    The drinking water. WHAT ABOUT THE WATER???

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