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1 hour ago, Ethan in Cleveland said:
When does the Bills brass get tired of McDermott's defense choking in games???
McDermott throwing Diggs under the boss was the lowest of the low for this loser coach.
I would take ten Diggs over one McDermott
I am trying not to get emotional but the people that what to run Diggs out of town really piss me off. Diggs is the best WR in franchise history and people want to run him out of town. I've said this before but he is the only one to stand up to McDermott and his joke of an OC. I love him for that!
Andre Reed says hello.
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3 hours ago, Beast said:
And, again, what I said is true. The post was stupid and done for no other reason than to stir up *****.You are not wrong. And then you have the self righteous piling on to proclaim how “foolish” you are to even question it. Give me a break.
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1 hour ago, Maynard said:
Do it. And let the english see you do it.
They think we run ?
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17 hours ago, Warriorspikes51 said:
That’s not enough value to warrant trading Dawkins IMO. I’d rather just move other picks to do thatI don’t know. That would place Dawkins value as the 46th pick. A mid second doesn’t sound too bad to me for a plus 30 year old 12-15 best LT. especially if he wants top 8 money.
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1 minute ago, SCBills said:
Agree, especially in a draft as loaded as this one at the position.Assuming the extend Dawkins & Brown, the Offense is set for the short & long term. Adding two quality rookie WR’s to go with Kincaid in his second year could lock in this Offense around Josh Allen for a long time.
People can worry about the Defense if we double dip at WR, but the Safety and DT FA market could not be set up any better for what we need this off-season. EDGE is a worry, but it’s not like anyone ever gets pressure during the Playoffs anyway. Just get some big bodies to push the pocket back and let what might be a Top 2 LB tandem in the NFL get to work.
My thoughts exactly on all counts.
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42 minutes ago, SCBills said:
I said he’s part of the problem.Those three big contracts.. none of them being what we paid them to be, which is elite at their position.
That’s why I think the bills should pull a gb and draft 2 wr in the first 3 rounds if they are there, and move on from diggs next season if they r quality players.
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6 minutes ago, BarleyNY said:
I could not disagree more. The teams that actually develop the minority coaches and GMs and help them become quality performers are the ones that should be rewarded.
Actually no one should be awarded a damn thing.
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For those pounding the table that he should be on the wall of fame, Henry Jones was every bit as good if not better.
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5 minutes ago, Sweats said:
Like, come on, man.......Poyer was good, but he was no legend.
Watching Bruce Smith, Andre Reed and Thurman Thomas go to other teams was watching legends leave.
You are 100 percent correct
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41 minutes ago, Blackbeard said:
Mess? You do recognize we’ve consistently finished the last bunch of years winning the AFCE and making sb runs, correct?
such a mess we’re in. Lmao. Are we supposed to do all of the above and still have loads of cap space?
Clearly you and I have a very different interpretation of what that looks like.
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7 hours ago, JohnBonhamRocks said:
You don’t give up that draft capital for a rental.
You do if you think he is the missing piece needed to make the Super Bowl. Especially considering you already have another 3rd round draft pick.
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1 minute ago, Dr. K said:
We'll have to agree to disagree.
I just suggest that there is no guarantee your new head coach is going to have the qualities that I bolded in your post and leave the floor to you. I just wish I didn't have to hear the same complaints every day in every thread.
Fair enough. I respect your opinions. And I apologize that people’s “complaints” take your enjoyment from the message board. I do appreciate your intelligent banter back and forth without personal attacks. You write very well by the way.
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7 hours ago, Dr. K said:
I find this funny. I'm 73 years old. In my experience, the younger you are the more impatient you are and the less willing you are to admit that life is not simple.
I'm not on "the good ship lollipop." If you'll go back a few years you'll see that I was one of the most skeptical of McDermott's "Trust the process" mantra in his first years. I think it's possible firing him might work out for the best, but it seems to me that those who are most eager to do this underestimate how hard it is to do what McDermott has done, how many times in life dumb chance prevents a desired outcome, and have a fantasy in their heads that "if they just hire X, then we will win a Super Bowl."
For this particular old dude, the repetitive raging that fills this board (and this particular thread) seems characteristic of men (mostly) who cannot face complexity.in order of bolded:
-I never implied that you were-and what exactly has he done? Win some afc east titles? Okay I guess
-I would argue that most decent coaches would have similar outcomes with josh allen as their qb.
-people pointing out flaws or criticism is not always necessarily ranting or raging in my humble opinion.
i am also not saying you are wrong with your assessments. However I also subscribe to the mantra “insanity is doing the same thing over and over again expecting a different outcome. I have zero problems with McDermott as a leader, culture builder, teacher and scheme builder. My problem is his in game coaching decisions at critical points during the game especially in the playoffs. At times he exhibits very poor judgment and mental lapses. If you are telling me you have a franchise qb and other talented players, not to mention the qualities I gave him props for, and it still isn’t enough? That tells me a change needs to be made.
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3 hours ago, Dr. K said:
The endless ranking on McDermott, in which the same people say the same things over and over again, and nobody raging that he should be fired has said anything new since the 13 seconds game--or at least in the last year--makes me never want to come back here again.
The few who want to talk about other things relevant to the Bills and not ride their hobby horses to death keep me coming back here to check in now and then.
And the repetitive anti-McDermott whining drives me away again. You can't begin reading any thread without eventually running into the necessary quota of bitter complaint that McDermott will never win a title/is a fool/is arrogant/is lazy/is too conservative/has lost the locker room/is surrounded by his yes-men, yada yada yada.
Maybe he should be fired. I don't know. My instinct and life experience tell me that the world is not fair, that time and chance happen to us all, that the best laid plans of mice and men often go awry, that even brilliant people make mistakes, that leadership takes many forms, and that finding success is not as simple as these people insist. But apparently there are a lot of Bills fans who have never been wrong in their entire lives.
“It’s business, it’s not personal”. A lot of McDermott detractors would say he is not a horrible coach. However like you so eloquently laid out with your “of mice and men” analogy, things go awry. We are now going into year 7 with 1 afc championship appearance. I’m sorry but that’s a problem. I understand many are infuriated with the ungrateful negative Nancy’s. But on the flip side many are infuriated with the good ship lolly pop “beane is a wizard” “McDermott is doing a great job crowd.”I think most can agree that the bills are not achieving at the level they should be. One group wants to be divorced from the negativity and the other wants to be divorced from complicit apologists. The truth is somewhere in the middle. I’m older so I don’t have time for excuses. I have more of a sense of urgency. When you are younger, there is a lot more time to wait.
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7 hours ago, Dr. K said:
You are psychic.
Of course, two out of three threads on the board turn into McDermott bash threads. It could not possibly get more tiresome.
Yes it could. Losing in the divisional year after year comes to mind.
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15 hours ago, Shaw66 said:
This is either the last Rockpile Review for the 2023 season, or the first for 2024. I’m not sure, and that’s as good a place to start as any.
I’ve mentioned before that my attitude about the games and the seasons seems to have changed over the past year. I love watching, I love the winning, and the losing doesn’t bother me all that much. It’s an odd feeling, because I used to fret about the losses for days and remember details for weeks or more. Not any more. Now, when the Bills lose, I just move on to what’s next, both in my personal life and in my Bills fan life.
For the 2023 season, I didn’t feel compelled to write about every game, or to write about the end of the season. The game was the game, everyone saw it, a lot of people had interesting comments, and it didn’t seem necessary to add anything. We all saw the drop or the interception or the mismanaged clock or whatever, and we all saw Josh Allen. I often felt that I had nothing to add. (Except, of course, it always feels like there's one more thing to say about Josh.)
And then the Bills lost to the Chiefs. I was there, I drove home the next day, and by then, I didn’t have much to say. Sitting in the stands, it’s often easy to lose details in the flow of the game, details that somehow stand out better when I watch on TV. Plus, I hadn’t seen why Allen’s throw to Shakir was short, so I had nothing to say about the most important play of the game. And so, no Rockpile Review.
Then, the Conference Championship games and the Super Bowl, but all of that was just of casual importance to me. The season was over, and I was ready to move on. The only interest I had in the Super Bowl was that the Chiefs blow out the Niners, preserving for Bills fans the cheap thrill of claiming that the Bills were the second best team in the league. Overtime or not, I still make the claim.
Then, two weeks went by, and it seems to me like it’s been a month or two. A month or two since Mahomes did what he seemingly always does, unless someone like Bass does something like Bass did, in which case Mahomes doesn’t have to be Mahomes, he just takes a knee.
From here, how and why the Bills didn’t do what we wanted, needed, them to do doesn’t matter to me all that much. It’s time to move on. New season, new roster, same hill to climb.
I won’t speculate on free agents coming and going, and I certainly won’t speculate on the draft. That’s for Beane and McDermott’ I’ll be curious to see the products of their work, and what it tells us about their approach to 2024. I expect I’ll like the roster, and I expect the Bills to compete for the Lombardi. The 2024 Bills will be better than the 2023 version.
In the meantime, there’s nothing for me to do in the dead silence that is the world of football at this time of year. When does training camp open?
GO BILLS!!!
The Rockpile Review is written to share the passion we have for the Buffalo Bills. That passion was born in the Rockpile; its parents were everyday people of western New York who translated their dedication to a full day’s hard work and simple pleasures into love for a pro football team.
You have way more faith than I do. A lot can change between now and opening day. But one common denominator remains and that’s McDermott. His playoff game day coaching is enough to get us eliminated each and every year. Divisional playoff loss here we come. 0-6 vs teams who have won their division in playoffs. Not good.
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2 hours ago, Returntoglory said:
Yeah. We should just be happy with mediocrity and being perpetual losers.
How people think this way is beyond infuriating. Especially when we can all agree Josh is a generational talent. A potential all time great and yet afc championship appearances are far and few in between let alone the Super Bowl. But hey let’s enjoy the ride as half of his career is potentially wasted. Participation trophies for everyone because after all it’s better than the drought years. Ridiculous. Maybe we can have another 6 years like this and we can all feel good because we are relevant again. Disgusting. News flash for everyone, Josh would make any mediocre coach and gm look good. This team does not have a championship team feel at all, like the bills teams of the 90’s. And yet we have a potential better qb better than Jim Kelly. Let that sink in.
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My Selections
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Demeioun Robinson
EDGE | Penn State
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Malachi Corley
WR | Western Kentucky
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Cole Bishop
S | Utah
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Blake Fisher
OT | Notre Dame
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Justin Eboigbe
DL | Alabama
TRADE
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Beau Brade
S | Maryland
TRADE
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Layden Robinson
IOL | Texas A&M
TRADE
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Marist Liufau
LB | Notre Dame
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Luke McCaffrey
WR | Rice
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Joe Milton
QB | Tennessee
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Jase McClellan
RB | Alabama
TRADE
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Jarrian Jones
CB | Florida State
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7 minutes ago, The Jokeman said:
If he's there and we lose Floyd and AJE I'd support this and look for a guy like Ja'Lynn Polk in Round 2.
And then back it up with Malachi Corley in the 3rd. I think he is going to be a steal for someone.
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1 hour ago, OldTimer1960 said:
I love this discussion, but I think we have to brace for the possibility of not taking a WR in round 1. I don’t know what Beane might be able to pull off to address DT, DE in FA, but I know that the cap situation is bad and, despite what some want to believe, the cap is not completely elastic (meaning you can’t just keep kicking money down the road forever). At present, the team doesn’t even have enough DL to start, much less have backups. That is real and, while it is fun to think that the Bills could just score every drive if only they could add Thomas Jr, that isn’t true. LSU had BOTH Malik Nabors AND Thomas Jr AND Jayden Daniels at QB and they didn’t score every drive against college defenses. Whether in 1st or 2nd and 3rd, DL needs attention.
Not saying I like or agree with it, but I could see bills selecting Chop Robinson de penn st.
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2 hours ago, GunnerBill said:
I set out a possible structure the other week. At the moment cutting him NOW is $10m in dead cap for saving $6m in cap space.
Letting him play this year on his current deal (a non-starter but stay with me for a second) and then cutting him next year is $4m dead cap hit in 2025.
There is a pretty easy extension that you can do with Tre that gets you the same cap saving in 2024 as cutting him ($6m) but it would involve adding somewhere in the region of $3-4m to the dead cap hit in 2025 (taking the total dead cap after next year to $7-8m) if you cut him after this year.
Of course if he returned to form in 2024 and we got the Tre from last year's Washington and Miami games back you'd have your best corner locked in two more years for modest cap hits of about $10m per season.
The reason a deal is easily doable with Tre is because he isn't guaranteed a single extra penny from the Bills at this point. They are on the cap hook for $10.4m but that is money that in cash terms was paid a long time ago. He isn't guaranteed a bean. So the offer from Buffalo would be "here is a small amount of new money" (say about $8m) in the form of a signing bonus that we could account for over multiple years with 2 years left plus a dummy year or two "but in exchange we are slashing your base salary to basically the vet minimum to buy us cap relief."
The question then becomes does Tre take that $8m in hand and figure his best chance to return to form is in the defense where he was an all pro and with an organisation that had supported him through one tricky rehab already or does he say "no, cut me and I'll take my chances of getting more than $8m in guaranteed new money on the market"?
I take your other point - why bring him back if he won't start? That is fair. I just don't see a world where if we get the real Tre White back as we did for 2 games this year he isn't the best corner on the Bills. Rasul Douglas did a nice job when he came in. But he isn't close to what prime Tre is. Some maybe feel the way about the chances of seeing prime Tre again that I do about the chances of seeing a rebound from Von. Again - if you are in that boat you just cut him. But the Bills don't HAVE to cut him. There IS a re-negotiation that makes sense for both parties. But it only makes sense if you still believe Tre White can be this team's best corner. I am in that camp that does.
With all due respect after having an acl tear last year and an Achilles tendon tear this year, how it’s even a thought process that he could be our best cb at any time moving forward. That’s just crazy talk to me and wishful thinking. I don’t know many cbs who come back from Achilles tendon tears. Do you? Great teams like kc and the patriots of old knew when to move on from players. I love tre white, however from a business perspective he needs to be released.
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23 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:
But likely incorrect. Might as well resign yourselves to the hell of making the playoffs each year.
And another divisional round loss. Yay
1 hour ago, PromoTheRobot said:That's hilarious. What exactly do you want? The owner cleaning house every year we don't win it all? Fans with torches and pitchforks marching on OBD?
Damn let’s start with just getting to AFC championship games consistently. I guess that’s an unreasonable expectation with having arguably the 2nd best qb in all of football.
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4 hours ago, LabattBlue said:
If their careers as Bills ended this offseason, are either Poyer or Hyde Bills WoF worthy?
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18 hours ago, Mister Defense said:
They love his dark language and bashing, and I am pretty sure what their politics is as well!
Pretty scary stuff especially if this is not just how they view football, sports, but the real world too.
Imagine what an unscrupulous politician would be able to do with (and to) these people...like sheep to the slaughter. If facts don't matter, then everything is up for grabs...
Lines like the ones you quote above clearly indicate why he could not find work again in an actual newspaper or magazine--any editor would rip his writing to shreds--it would never see the light of day.
By what politics do you mean? Because I’m pretty sure there are is enough “dark language and bashing” to go around regardless of political affiliation. But censuring someone because you don’t agree with what they say? That sounds communistic to me. Especially over the word “simpleton”.
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Diggs cryptic comments - 2024 edition
in The Stadium Wall
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Let’s be honest here, Diggs has a history of this since his days in Minnesota. His tweets ultimately led to him being traded. I’m not saying he will be traded, or that there is some 5 alarm fire at one bills drive. But let’s not act like Diggs is the victim of salacious rumors and people having “crazy bias” against him. Diggs knows exactly what he is doing. Diggs creates the problem with his ambiguity. He does this every off season around this time to generate attention.
People conveniently forget these antics in Minnesota as well. History proves past.