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    Loved Belichick being Belichicked!

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    13 minutes ago, Limeaid said:

     

    Same thing happened with a Bills game.  Player got an interception and took the points.  It would have been better to sit down on 1 yard line and do three or four plays to use up clock but players need to score.  

     

    As he said.

    Yeah, I'm assuming you are talking about Hyde returning the onside kick for a TD

    My Off-Season Primer: Position Group: WR

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    10 hours ago, MAJBobby said:

    ***Disclaimer*** I will not put all Names not on the Bills in this thread as it would get to long, I will keep it to a couple names in each tier (as I see them).  wit this I am wrapping up Offense and Special Teams and I will be on to the Defense starting next week.  Hope you enjoy the read.   ***NOTE*** Please do not turn this into an AJ Green Thread.

     

    Past Writeups

    Quarterback

    Running Backs

    Tight Ends

    Offensive Line

    Specialists

     

    Currently on Roster: (Positional Spending 6 players 19.372M Cap (ranked 15th in league)

     

    John Brown (UFA 2022) – Saves 6.518M against cap if Cut

     

    Cole Beasley (UFA 2023) – Saves 2.568M against cap if Cut

     

    Andre Roberts (UFA 2021) – Saves 1.5M against cap if Cut

     

    Duke Williams (EFRA 2021) – Saves 585K against cap if Cut

     

    Nick Easley (signed futures deal) -

     

    Ray-Ray McCloud (signed futures deal)

     

     

     

    Expiring Contracts:

     

    Isaiah McKenzie (25 yrs old) (RFA) (600K AVV)

     

    Robert Foster (26 yrs old) (EFRA) (525K AVV)

     

     

     

    My Take:

     

     

     

    First, I will address the expiring contracts. They really are not expiring contracts because McKenzie will get the Original Tender and be back, I don’t think Bills need to go anything higher than the original tender to keep him.  Foster will get his EFRA tender and be back. These are both players that need to be replaced but will be back just because of their contract status of both being very cheap to bring back.  I will never really understand what happened with Foster this year, compared to last year, it looked like he was poised to break out and be a NO1 WR, he never did, he has had motivation issues in the past did that catch back up with him?  But the reality is Duke Williams brings more to this offense and the numbers show that out as well.  

     

     

     

    Isaiah McKenzie– 39 TGTs, 254 yards 1 TD, Catch Rate 69% and a DVOA -20.8%,

     

    Robert Foster– 18 TGTs, 64 yards, 0 TDs, Catch Rate 17% 2 DPI Drawn 58 yards and a DVOA -42.0%

     

    Duke Williams – 19 TGTs, 166 yards, 1 TD, Catch Rate 63% and a DVOA +2.8%

     

     

     

    Now to the other WRs (not Roberts he is a Return Man not a WR).  Brown and Beasley.  Both have been great additions as well but looking at the dead money on these guys knowing they were JUST SIGNED I have to tip my hat to Beane.  And thing point I am going to bold here but you can look at all the UFAs Beane as signed in my other position groups they are all essentially on year deals with easy outs.  This is amazing cap management and solidifies to me that they can go get WHOEVER they want and not hurt their cap long term because he has shown a capability to craft cap friendly early outs.  So not back on task.

     

     

     

    John Brown – 115 TGTs, 1060 yards, 6 TDs, Catch Rate 63%, 4 Drops (T19th in NFL) and a DVOA +11.1% (Ranks 22nd in NFL)

     

    Cole Beasley – 105 TGTs, 778 yards, 6 TDs, Catch Rate 64%, 5 Drops (T10th in NFL), drew 1 DPI for 26 yards and a DVOA of +2.5 (Ranks 39th in NFL)

     

     

     

    I probably am going to get fragged for this, but John Brown is an excellent WR2 not a WR1.  But that being said, I do like John Brown at a top end WR1B or WR2.  I think the worst play from him that I saw was the failed toe tap in the WC game, I know he logged 4 drops, but I don’t remember one really hurting a drive IE Big spot like I can with Knox’s and Beasley drops.  But either way another thing I do like that Brown gave is that 73.6% of his catches resulted in a first down. Which ranks him in 8th in the NFL with WRs and TEs with over 50 catches.  What I knew about him coming into Buffalo was he was blazing fast and that was confirmed, what I didn’t know and what he opened my eyes up to is how complete of a WR he is.  His route running is exceptional as well he always seemed to me that he was open, he easily would find holes in Zones, and in Man coverage he was always gaining separation out of his breaks as well.  This was a good signing from Buffalo and see why they also tried to sign him last year. 

     

     

     

    Beasley also had a respectable 1st down conversion of 55.2% of his catches resulting in First down.  What I noticed about him, is he is better against man than he is against a zone.  I think the reason that is the way he runs routes and the crispness off then he gets immediate separation out of breaks.  Against a zone it is more of a feel to find the soft-spot or the seam in the zone.  My Cowboy friends told me that if he gets bracketed it can take him out of games, and I think that was seen as well.  Get another legit threat at WR or TE and it becomes much harder to do that too him.

     

     

     

    The organizational depth in this group is atrocious.  There are really only 2 NFL caliber WRs on this roster and needs infusion of talent. So, I can see another offseason like last with going into the position multiple times, maybe a couple lower tier WRs via UFA and using a 1st or 2nd in the draft, or even a couple of draft picks.  How this position group gets addressed this offseason will be interesting.      

     

     

     

    Possible Trade TGTs (hard to gauge until after SB):

     

    OBJ – really is the only one I have heard so far as possibly being available this offseason.

     

     

     

    UFAs Possible

     

    Tier 1

     

    AJ Green

     

    Amari Cooper

     

    Larry Fitzgerald

     

    Emmanuel Sanders

     

    Robbie Anderson (I wont downgrade him because of his off-field stuff)

     

     

     

    Tier 2

     

    Randall Cobb

     

    Zach Pascal (EFRA) - meaning he 99.99999999999999999% is staying in Indy

    Nelson Agholor

     

    Breshad Perriman

     

    Demarcus Robinson

     

    Philip Dorsett

     

     

     

    Draft (adding size here because I know people want to know that when talking WR)

     

    Tier 1 (1st and 2nd round grades)

     

    Outside:

    Jerry Jeudy (6’1, 192) (Alabama)

     

    CeeDee Lamb (6’2 189) (Oklahoma)

     

    Tee Higgins (6’4 200) (Clemson)

     

    Laviska Shenault Jr. (6’2 220) (Colorado)

     

    Henry Ruggs III (6’0 183) (Alabama)

     

    Tyler Johnson (6’2 200) (Minnesota)

     

    Justin Jefferson (6’2 185) (LSU)

     

    Michael Pittman Jr. (6’4 223) (USC)

     

     

     

    Slot:

     

    Jalen Reagor (5’11 195) (TCU)

     

    KJ Hamler (5’9 174) (Penn ST)

     

    Aaron Fuller (5’11 186) (Washington)

     

     

     

    Tier 2 (3rd-5th round)

     

    Outside:

     

    Collin Johnson (6’6 220) (Texas)

     

    Brandon Aiyuk (6’0 208) (Az ST)

     

    Donovan People-Jones (6’2 208) (Michigan)

     

     

     

    Slot:

     

    None

     

     

     

    Tier 3 (6th – Priority UFA)

     

    Outside:

     

    John Hightower (6’2 184) (Boise State)

     

    KJ Hill (6’0 195) (Ohio St)

     

    Antonio Gandy-Golden (6’4 216) (Liberty)

     

    Chase Claypool (6’4 227) (ND)

     

    Gabriel Davis (6’3 212) (UCF)

     

    Denzel Mims (6’3 197) (Baylor)

     

    Quinten Cephus (6’1 207) (Wisconsin)

     

    Isaiah Hodgins (6’4 209) (Oregon State)

     

    Bryan Edwards (6’3 215) (South Carolina)

     

     

     

    Slot:

     

    Devin Duvernay (5’11 186) (Texas)

     

    James Poche (5’11 190) (SMU)

     

     

     

    Final thinking in this Position group for me would be:

     

     

     

    This position group needs work with right now only two legit NFL receivers on the roster.  Before I start with what I would do let me address what this would turn into.  AJ Green if I can get him to accept a Prove it Deal a 1-year 12M with little GTD I would.  Or I would also offer about what his value will be (with INJ and age) 2-year 19M with 9M GTD, 9.5M AVV.  But I don’t think he would accept that.  Now what I would like Bills to look at.

     

     

     

    Go after a Tier 2 WR in UFA.  My Choice will be Breshard Perriman I don’t think Tampa is in a position to sign him.  And I think a Cole Beasley Contract is acceptable and will get it done 4 years 29M, 12 GTD with a 7.25M AVV and an easy out after the first year.  That will give you the same Deep speed as Foster and allows for the Rookie not to have to come right in and excel.  He really came on late in the year with Tampa.  That give me at last 3 real NFL WRs on the roster before the draft. 

     

     

     

    In the draft I would take 2.  One early and one late.  My Early target right now is Laviska Shenault.  Reason why is he has the skill set right now we are filling with players.  Big and Powerful (Duke Williams). Plenty of Speed (will time in 4.4s or lower, Robert Foster) and can run jet sweeps, out of backfield, QB the WC similar to McKenzie).  He also has a good catch radius and can high point balls.

     

     

     

    In Later round get be the Big TGT for competition with Duke Williams so like a Hodgins, Claypool, Mims.

     

     

     

    This is the position group I would like addressed in the first round.  You Can see in round 3-5 the depth thins out in the outside WR group, so a lot of those Tier 3 guys are going to be over drafted.  Yes it is a deep draft like everyone is saying but that depth I fully anticipate will get gone fast, and if we wait until the second round (where we are picking we are going to miss out)

     

    As long as we land Shenault, I'm going to be extremely pleased with our WRs. Though if we also land Perriman I would be so damn excited for our Offense. Especially if we can some how land Hooper for our TE too. I know that's clearly not likely that Buffalo can land all of them tho. Just imagine all the weapons plus Singletary for Josh. Maybe see if we can fix our RT by snatching up Conklin from TN and watch out ladies and gents cause Buffalo would have a top Offense again finally. One can dream I suppose.

    MR8's Ideal Off-Season

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    4 minutes ago, John from Riverside said:

    Did he even give up a sack all year?

     

    I am not even saying he is going to be back because I think he is gonna want to get paid and Ford would fit in nicely into that spot......but Spain was not bad for us this year.......Ford (and that is my boy) was worse.

     

     

    Nope, he didn't give up one. I chuckled at the thought of him being the worst. Clearly our rookie was the weakest link.

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    2020 Mock Off-Season

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    13 hours ago, golfball323 said:

     

    Looks like he JUST turned 29 on the 31st of December. 

     

    I think we need to try to re-sign him and keep those two (Poyer) together. If we can't give Hyde what he wants then that's another story. 

     

    I don't understand why people think we need to keep Poyer. McDermott has shown he is very good with finding solid DBs. And Poyer can't tackle worth a damn. Hyde is amazing tho.

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    Duke Williams Player Comparison

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    38 minutes ago, Protocal69 said:

    I was thinking recently who Duke Williams reminds me of and the conclusion I came up is Antwan Boldin. Im thinking if he could lose about 10-15 pounds and not lose his strength he would be close in physical stature and style of play.

     

    He is how they compare:

     

     

    Antwan Boldin
    40 yard dash time: 4.71 4.73 seconds
    Height: 6′ 1″
    Weight: 216 pounds
    Vertical: 33.5 inches
    Broad Jump: N/A
    Hand Size: 9.88"
    ARM LENGTH 30.00"

     

     

    DUKE WILLIAMS 
    40-yard dash: 4.66 and 4.69 seconds
    Height: 6′ 2″
    Weight: 229 pounds
    Vertical: 30 1/2 inches
    Broad Jump: 9 feet, 10 inches
    Hand Size: 9.25" 
    ARM LENGTH 32.5 "

     

    Draft Profile:

    Big frame and usually plays to his size. 
    Will post up cornerbacks down the field and uses his body to 
    shield throws from defenders. Natural pass catcher with soft hands. 
    Saw 82 percent of his catches go for first downs in 2014.
    At his best in longer developing, intermediate routes. 
    Does solid job of setting up routes with leverage points and head ­fakes.
    Makes downfield catches with well­-timed hands to consistently pluck throws 
    at the high­ point and will lay out to make the tough catch. 
    Can grind out an extra couple of yards after the catch in order to get the 
    first down. Has the size to help run game as a blocker if his care factor is
    right.

     

    As I stated above if Duke works on his body and craft in the off-season he may have a chance to increase his playing time next year

    I'm very confused right now. Do you mean Anquan Boldin? 

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    Call your shot (2020 NFL Draft)

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    6 hours ago, Canadian Bills Fan said:

    Who do you think we will draft in round 1?

     

    I'm calling my shot now and saying Laviska Shenault WR from Colorado

     

    • Laviska Shenault, 6-2/220
       
    • Wide Receiver
       
    • Colorado


     

    Laviska Shenault Scouting Report
    By Charlie Campbell
     

    Strengths:

    • Rare toughness
    • Strong build
    • Is a fighter
    • Doesn't hesitate to get physical
    • Dangerous run-after-the-catch skills
    • Elusive open-field runner
    • Has a second gear as a runner
    • Picks up yards after contact
    • Quality route runner
    • Willing to go across the middle
    • Good hands
    • Quality height
    • Can generate separation
    • Tracks the ball well
    • Good technique
    • Adept at finding soft spots in zone
    • Plays hurt
    • Makes big plays in the clutch
    • Versatile receiver
    • Could be cross-trained as a X - split end -, Y - flanker -, or Z - slot
    • Phenomenal fit for a west coast offense
    • Able to contribute as a short-yardage running back



       
     


    Weaknesses:

    • Durability
    • Gets banged up
    • Good, but not great, speed
    • Good, but not great, size

    This is exactly who I want. Durability is the only reason imo why he would fall to us. The guy is a beast.

    Is Tre White worth top corner money?

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    1 hour ago, Thurman#1 said:

     

     

    There has never been the slightest bit of confirmation about this. Every time the Bills don't pay someone market value, the sour grapes crowd says he wasn't going to stay here anyways.

    He had zero issues talking badly about Buffalo after he left. Doesn't sound like someone who wanted to be here. As for sour grapes. Lmao I love stupid comments like that. I wasnt sad to see someone go who didn't like to tackle while he was here and got hit left and right for PI/defensive holding. He's a much better player now with the Pats than when he played for Buffalo. Either way Tre is better and that guy is a ball of energy and super exciting to watch.

    Bills officially have pick 22 in the 1st round

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    1 hour ago, Reed83HOF said:

    I can see us moving up for a WR, I just don't see us moving for an Edge. With Shaq leaving in FA and Murphy not playing well - I think that gets solved in FA or at least we take a strong shot at it. Beane just can't leave that spot open until the draft. 

     

    To move up for WR, would you give up this years #22,  our 3rd and next year's 1? KC gave up #27, #91 and the following year's first for #10

     

    I would that would leave us #10, 1-2nd, 1- 4th, 2-5ths and 3-6ths and I bet we can move back into the 3rd and draft in rounds 1 - 5

     

    I honestly think Jeudy is the only one worth trading up for that high. And he won't last to 10. 

    Loved Belichick being Belichicked!

    in The Stadium Wall Archives

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    18 minutes ago, TheFunPolice said:

     

    Yeah but now the 1 score was a TD and there was less time left, around 9 seconds and no timeouts

     

    They would have had less field to drive even from the 1 for a FG than from the 25 for a TD

     

    Assuming FG range is the 35 that's 64 yards from the 1. Needing a TD after the kickoff if there's a touchback means going 75 yards with less time.

     

    It didn't add up but either way it worked out well!

    I'm pretty sure he was talking about the guy scoring. If he just kneeled down after the pick it's over with. The pick6 gave a slight chance still.

    Josh Allen - PLAYOFF GAME report card

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    4 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

     

    This is 100% how I see it. I don't love Daboll but what I see is not mainly on play calling 

    We stopped using our best weapon in Singletary late in the game. They just quit trying to run the damn ball. I'm sorry but that's either on McDermott or Daboll. Completely horrible play calling late in the game. 

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