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Then I must really matter if you're getting so upset.

And I get to hear in many threads all the hopefuls' position on Allen, what's the issue?

It's absolutely a component of accuracy.

You should not go through life expecting everyone to agree with you.

I certainly concede the arm talent part of it. I don't really even remember the ball leaving Favre or Elway's hand like it does Allen's. I'd have to go back and watch old games. How many inaccurate QB's have been cured with changes to footwork, and is it a high percentage? Are the odds in favor of it?

This is probably Shady's last year, and I think Allen only plays if there are some injuries. However, McClappity started Perteman when it was painfully obvious he was not ready to start, so, there is hope for you Allen fans

Correct, but picking Allen is playing some of the worst odds available at the time... The Allen pick was a "gut" pick by a couple of guys who won't even acknowledge analytics. They used their eyeballs only, those days are gone, just as gone as running the ball to setup the pass...

At least he claps a lot, from what I am hearing, that is a sign of a great coach.

Oh boy, here come the excuses already! After only one pre-season game

Ok, so you got me beat on the longevity of fandom, early 1980's for me. And the team has sucked for a long time, pretty much it's entire existence. Ralph got lucky with one GM, then fired him, was a terrible owner in terms of putting product on the field. In the end keeping the team in Buffalo was about the only thing he did right. Allen is a longshot at best. Not sure how anyone can disagree with that, if they do, it's simply their fandom getting in the way of the reality of the situation.

Have you ever done that? I was born and raised a Bills fan, I have never had an inkling to root for another team. Not sure if that was meant as an insult or not... How he performed at a small school, seems to be very good reasons for a whole host of talent evaluators and analytics houses to take the stance Allen will not pan out. Is the stance that you're taking based soley on the fact that the Bills selected him? btw, I have this argument with family and co-workers just the same as online, guess they don't need safe spaces like most Americans do these days.

They hitched their wagon to Allen, so odds are yes.

What does someone like you actually do when you come across someone in real life who thought the Allen pick was a bad one, run away? Sheesh...

I hate the Jets, why the hell would I do that? The objective is for the Bills to actually be good one day...

We'll see, but that detailed analysis may have just been what they used to convince themselves to go with the physical tools kid... I mean, it's their career's, but I am getting tired of the Bills sucking. The new FO + Coach every 3 years is getting annoying.

Remember this equation: Confirmation bias + safe space = Ignore option

"The Bills can do no wrong, I trust the process, look at that arm!" Did I capture yours? I want the Bills to be good, not hope they will be...

That's a bit of a drama queen take isn't it? Allen won't even start this season.

What makes you believe the odds are that he becomes a franchise QB? I don't think you can use a term like odds for such a statement. It's more that you HOPE he becomes a franchise QB, it's not about odds and numbers, because the numbers say otherwise.

LOL, who allows themselves to get angry on the internet? What happens when you come across someone IRL who thinks the Allen pick was a mistake? Try to report that person to a MOD? It's just Football, chill.

Well, I guess you hope he will be properly taught, that is no guarantee. Plus, you can't really teach accuracy, that's been proven many times over, with very few exceptions. The odds are, the Bills will be looking for another franchise QB while a guy like Darnold is going to the playoff's every year.

I'm not a fan of the self absorbed Newton, so I like what KB has done. Good job IMO. Plus, he played pretty well last night.

Ah yes, if you're not an eternal optimist, you're a troll. Love the way Bills fans think.

That's true, but I was mainly talking about the FO getting all weak in the knees over Allen's physical tools, and ignoring all the accuracy issues.

If they drafted a QB that makes them a perennial playoff team and always in the hunt for a championship, all those draft picks are def worth it. When Brady retires, who is likely to be the best QB in the AFCE? He seems like a cool kid, but, all the data suggests he's not going to be what a lot of you are hoping for...