Troll Toll
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13 minutes ago, Motor26 said:
Right or wrong, looks like they’re betting on continuity on the line breeds improvement this year.It is a little scary. Last night on NFL Network I caught the end of last year’s second game against the Patriots. Allen made a great throw to Beasley that got us down to ~10 yard line inside 2 minutes. From there...
1st Down: DaBoll calls a QB sweep that doesn’t go anywhere. I put that on both DaBoll and the line.
2nd Down: Allen misses a TD to Knox in the corner of the end zone by a foot. I remember after the game many put this on Allen, but I still feel like a better TE makes that play.
3rd Down: Sack from immediate pressure on the right AND up the middle where Pats only rushed 4?
4th Down: Allen struggles to heave one to John Brown in the end zone facing instant pressure from all angles.
Between DaBoll wasting a down with a bad running play, our late round TE essentially dropping a pass, and our offensive line not blocking we lose that game. I think that was a microcosm of the season on offense and those 3 areas haven’t been addressed so far...
Don’t get me wrong, I’m happy we have Diggs, but receiver was not the only place on offense we needed significant improvement. There is a reason we were in the bottom third of the NFL on offense beyond one receiver.
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55 minutes ago, The Dean said:
You do realize it is only MARCH of 2020? FA nowhere near done. Draft hasn't happened yet. Etc. How are you claiming the Offensive Line went unaddressed in 2020, when the addressing is just starting?
FA is basically picked over by this point and we’ve traded away our first round draft pick. I would be shocked to see us add anyone of true quality to the line from here on out.
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If Allen fails due to a lacking Offensive Line (that went unaddressed in 2020) and a critical injury or two to Diggs/Brown/Beasley where McBeane failed to address receiver depth, then McBeane may be on the chopping block. Up to this point they haven’t done Allen many favors in terms of his development. I credit Allen with his own development. Although we went to the playoffs, I’ve seen a lot of head scratchers in terms of roster, trades and game management.
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3 hours ago, 3rdnlng said:
From a FB post:
I talked to a man today
I talked with a man today, an 80+ year old man. I asked him if there was anything I can get him while this Coronavirus scare was gripping America.
He simply smiled, looked away and said:
"Let me tell you what I need! I need to believe, at some point, this country my generation fought for... I need to believe this nation we handed safely to our children and their children...
I need to know this generation will quit being a bunch of sissies...that they respect what they've been given...that they've earned what others sacrificed for."
I wasn't sure where the conversation was going or if it was going anywhere at all. So, I sat there, quietly observing.
"You know, I was a little boy during WWII. Those were scary days. We didn't know if we were going to be speaking English, German or Japanese at the end of the war. There was no certainty, no guarantees like Americans enjoy today.
And no home went without sacrifice or loss. Every house, up and down every street, had someone in harm's way. Maybe their Daddy was a soldier, maybe their son was a sailor, maybe it was an uncle. Sometimes it was the whole damn family...fathers, sons, uncles...
Having someone, you love, sent off to war...it wasn't less frightening than it is today. It was scary as Hell. If anything, it was more frightening. We didn't have battle front news. We didn't have email or cellphones. You sent them away and you hoped...you prayed. You may not hear from them for months, if ever. Sometimes a mother was getting her son's letters the same day Dad was comforting her over their child's death.
And we sacrificed. You couldn't buy things. Everything was rationed. You were only allowed so much milk per month, only so much bread, toilet paper. EVERYTHING was restricted for the war effort. And what you weren't using, what you didn't need, things you threw away, they were saved and sorted for the war effort. My generation was the original recycling movement in America.
And we had viruses back then...serious viruses. Things like polio, measles, and such. It was nothing to walk to school and pass a house or two that was quarantined. We didn't shut down our schools. We didn't shut down our cities. We carried on, without masks, without hand sanitizer. And do you know what? We persevered. We overcame. We didn't attack our President, we came together. We rallied around the flag for the war. Thick or thin, we were in it to win. And we would lose more boys in an hour of combat than we lose in entire wars today."
He slowly looked away again. Maybe I saw a small tear in the corner of his eye. Then he continued:
"Today's kids don't know sacrifice. They think a sacrifice is not having coverage on their phone while they freely drive across the country. Today's kids are selfish and spoiled. In my generation, we looked out for our elders. We helped out with single moms who's husbands were either at war or dead from war. Today's kids rush the store, buying everything they can...no concern for anyone but themselves. It's shameful the way Americans behave these days. None of them deserve the sacrifices their granddads made.
So, no I don't need anything. I appreciate your offer but, I know I've been through worse things than this virus. But maybe I should be asking you, what can I do to help you? Do you have enough pop to get through this, enough steak? Will you be able to survive with 113 channels on your tv?"
I smiled, fighting back a tear of my own...now humbled by a man in his 80's. All I could do was thank him for the history lesson, leave my number for emergency and leave with my ego firmly tucked in my rear.
I talked to a man today. A real man. An American man from an era long gone and forgotten. We will never understand the sacrifices. We will never fully earn their sacrifices. But we should work harder to learn about them..learn from them...to respect them.
While he is right about people being a bunch of sissies, it is high time people start recognizing their own role in all of this. His generation raised a bunch of idiots and elected a bunch of idiots and that cycle has continued to today. It seems illogical to blame the kids of today for not being taught the ideals and sacrifice that America was founded upon. There is a generation of young people that doesn’t own anything because the prices of college, real estate, health care, and vehicles is astronomical in comparison to their wages. They are told they need a college education, only to find out when they graduate that the morons their elders elected in Washington are giving their jobs away to foreigners on discount wages to massive corporations. They are told Social Security won’t be there for them, but they still have to pay into it. They are being handed a totally broken health care system. No wonder they act in selfish ways.
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Too predictable when he was in. Teams knew what to expect and rendered him useless.
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Do we even have the best group in our division? New England does have Edelman and Sanu.
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7 minutes ago, Limeaid said:
Pretty sure the virus COULD be sexually transferred.
So Drew Brees may have it too?
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27 minutes ago, arcane said:
They made two Super Bowls and won one after the trade. It wasn't exactly a story of the 1996 Bills when the trade was made.
And while I'm sure he prefers JG to his 2020 QB, JG is merely good, nothing special, and you claiming a "lack of a plan" because of something 3 years and 2 Super Bowls away isn't exactly compelling when there really isn't tangible evidence that it played out in the detailed way claimed by those who spend way too much time trying to paint their own stories over the Pats of the last 20 years
There are plenty of fans there who are realists about the fact that Bill broke the rules 13 years ago, even though they are often drowned by goofballs, which happens here too, and anywhere else on the Internet.
the fact remains that bills fans asserting things about Kraft with no tangible evidence is not justified by the Patriots cheating over a decade ago
The logical train followed by bills fans in these discussions is often incomprehensible
I think it is laughable that you imply that the cheating stopped. It has been ongoing for 20 years. That is the real story of the Patriot Way and the reason we won’t see the Patriots fade until the cheating is stopped. Brady leaving will have little to no impact on New England’s success.
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4 hours ago, arcane said:
On the pats board it's a consensus that the kraft/bill Brady/garoppolo thing is completely fabricated, and they routinely get a kick out of people that build colossal narratives out of it like the above
Those are the same fans that are in total denial over Spygate...
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3 hours ago, The Dean said:
Some would argue siting stats alone, without a deeper context of their roles, offenses, circumstances, etc, is a rather shallow way to compare two different players from two different teams.
Some might, for example, point out that Diggs was either Co-#1 (some argue he was #2) with Thielen while Brown was a clear #1 in the Bills offense in 2019.
Some might point out that Diggs was targeted on 94 plays, getting similar results as Brown, who was targeted on 115 plays.
Some would definately point out that Diggs has been the more consistent producer of the two, over the years. While Brown had a near career year with the Bills, Diggs (in a year where he had some issues and was deemed unhappy with the Vikes offense) had his second straight 1,000 yard plus season.
My original point that Diggs was a marginally better version of Brown was based on watching both of them. They are both somewhat smaller and faster, but not Tyreek Hill blazers. They are strong route runners with reliable mitts. Diggs has better after the catch ability. They are well rounded, but not physically dominating. They are respected, but don’t strike fear in opposing DBs for that reason. The stats merely back up the visual. Diggs is still a far cry from top guys of the past few years like Julio and Michael Thomas.
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2 hours ago, John from Riverside said:
What if lamb never becomes as good as diggs
He has a higher ceiling than Diggs and would be on a rookie contract. Maybe he ultimately won’t be as good as Diggs, but on the surface, if Lamb is somehow there at 22 then it makes the trade for a receiver with attitude problems look highly questionable.
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2 hours ago, Dr. Who said:
I don't think most folks judge Diggs only marginally better than Brown. If you are correct, it's an overpay. I think he's considerably better and effectively makes everyone better by slotting them into correct roles. Brown is a very good #2, a marginal #1.
Last year they both played 15 games:
Brown had 65 catches, 1003 yards and 7 TDs
Diggs had 63 catches, 1130 yards and 6 TDs
Some would argue Diggs played with the better QB. Watching Diggs’ highlights, Kirk made some deep throws that Josh couldn’t hit last year. That said, this should be the Bills best receiver group since Moulds/Price.-
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I gave it a B for a couple reasons:
1. An A is reserved for when you clearly got the better end of a deal. Like when we unloaded Dareus.
2. While a good player, he screams 2nd round to me. He doesn’t physically stand out amongst the top NFL receivers. He is a borderline #1 receiver and I think only marginally better than John Brown.
3. That said, I do think he helps this team and is instantly our best receiver.
One thing to watch... seems like most people are making big assumptions regarding how high receivers will get drafted. If Lamb is still sitting there when Buffalo would have picked, then this was a bad trade.
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Trying to draft a receiver in the first would have been frustrating. This year the other teams basically KNEW we would be going receiver in Round 1. We would have seen other teams trading to get in front of us. This was a solid move, though I was hoping for a more physically dominating player.
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Just now, Real McNasty said:
Wow, unreal.
Watson has to be pissed.
Now he has a receiver group more like Josh.
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I never really cared for him, glad we didn’t sink any more money into him.
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3 hours ago, Hardhatharry said:
Just bring the cereal ?
Who is bringing the milk?
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8 hours ago, SoTier said:
When my father retired in 1982, his pension from his employer of more than 20 years was all of $95 a month My stepmother's pension from the same employer was $105 a month. When my dad died, my stepmother's SS dropped and she lost that $95 a month, so her income dropped quite substantially. Luckily, the house was paid for and they had had savings. If both were alive today (dad would be 103 and stepmom would be 95) their combined pensions would still be $200 a month, no "inflation protection".
Many, many older retirees with these kinds of outdated small pensions could not survive without Social Security and Medicare. Younger people who are always whining about social security should make it their business to demand that their Congressmen and Senators protect Social Security and Medicare by seeing that both programs are adequately funded to insure secure income and decent medical care for current retirees and future ones -- which will be themselves at some point in the future, especially as medical/health advances continue to increase the average life span. Contrary to popular myth and political ideology, these are two government programs that work and shouldn't be sacrificed for short-sighted immediate gains.
I’m 32 and fall on the conservative side of the spectrum, but I agree that Social Security is an absolutely essential program. If we had that money in our paychecks, businesses would just inflate their prices and we essentially wouldn’t get anything (only the illusion of having more money). It is money nobody can touch which is the ultimate counterweight to unchecked capitalism.
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Is Mr. Ags Augie?
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9 minutes ago, PIZ said:
Is Ruggs a better fit than Jeudy or Lamb in a trade-up? I doubt they could trade-up high enough for Jeudy or Lamb, but what if all 3 were available at their trade-up spot? What are your thoughts on a backup QB? Do you think they add one, or go with Barkley?
IMO Lamb is the best possible scenario
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Gronk will likely flop as a wrestler. His personality is overblown, as is his talking ability. Not to mention his on-field freakout on Tre would go over super poorly if he acted out that way in that business.
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I’d say the fact that we are heading into year 4 and have had no clear cut #1 receiver over that span is definite cause for concern. They seem to have picked QB correctly, hopefully they can pick the guy to end our wide receiver woes. Having a true #1 talent would make Brown and Beasley far more dangerous.
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3 hours ago, KD in CA said:
At the risk of veering this into PPP-land, there was an op-ed with an interesting series of graphs in the NY Times this week about the rising rates of death from alcohol, drugs and suicide among those without a college degree, with the thesis that the root cause was economic decline.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/03/06/opinion/working-class-death-rate.html
I’ll venture a guess that this has to do with the loss of manufacturing jobs and wage growth that hasn’t kept up with inflation.
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How strange!? I don’t recall seeing the Jags in the playoffs last year.
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Would you keep the HC\GM combo if Allen doesn't work out.
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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My point was they need significant improvement on the line, not lateral moves and depth players. Allen’s mobility hid a lot of deficiencies in the pass blocking. Our 2018 line was horrendous and 2019 was still less than mediocre.