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Anybody who can honestly treat Henry like he was a subpar back is sniffing glue! WHile he did have a fumbling problem 2 years ago, Henry was a hard nose running who gave everything he had on the field as at times he refused to be tackled by one defender. How can anybody try and take his past 3 years in vain, especially last year when we had no passing game to speak of whatsoever? This guy had 10+ TD's the past 3 years! And just because teams play to stop the pass doesn't mean that a running game will develop; if so where was Marino's 1300 yard back or Elway in his early Super Bowl runs? And for those who give KillDrive the credit, maybe he was on to something that the Bills should take note of: if you don't have a dominant blocking FB, you can sometimes have more running success by running with a 3 WR set as it spreads the D out and puts an extra guy in coverage. If it wasn't for McGahee fans would be giving him more props and blaming the O-line. Now just because we have McGahee who hasn't faired much better everyone seems to forget what Henry has done and now take shots at him. I'll bet you will remember him when he is playing for another team giving his all and being productive while McGahee is playing for another team as he and his agent will want an astronomical contract to stay a Bill. WM doesn't show the willingness to give his all for the TEAM like TH for TH seems to be Bills first, TH second. I think WM is the other way around, only time will tell!

Maybe he is finally planning on using both in the backfield at the same time like he had suggested all preaseason...

and then set up the line this way: LT Jennings/Price LG Mike Williams C Teague/Tucker RG Villareal RT Price/Peters/Free Agent Look the guys we have aren't that bad. When Drew is replaced with JPL next year (or this year if we are lucky) then you will notice a big improvement in pass blocking. While I still think M. Williams gets too much blame just because he was a high pick, since his strength is drive blocking he'd be a stud at guard, probably the next Larry Allen. At center I think both Teague or Tucker could get the job done equally. Now at RT, Price has proven he can play either side effectively; if Jonas comes cheap we could move Price to RT. Then if Price is set at RT, this lineup would look pretty good. Now if Jonas cost too much, simply replace him with Price at LT. This wouldn't be much of a drop off and then either groom Peters to take over at RT or sign a free-agent RT. I think that by 2005 with a year and another off season to get adjusted Peters will be a force to consider at tackle for he definitely fits the bill (or Bill) athletically. Overall, the key change would need to be at QB for once Drew is replaced there will no longer be a sitting duck back there. Unless a team blitz you rarely see immediate pressure upon Bledsoe. Now while all the sacks aren't Drew's fault, half of his sacks are either coverage sacks or instances where he doesn't sense the rush and step up in the pocket. If we had a QB who could beat the blitz then guess what; teams won't be as tempted. Besides this year this group of guys have proven they can run block as TH hasn't gotten all those yards by himself the past 3 years; with M.Williams at guard we will pave the way to victory in 2005. All we need now is a coach or GM with the you know what to make bold changes and put these players in the best position regardless of salary or preference. I guess Murlakey is on the right track for by placing starters on special teams for our special teams has played better than they have in years. If he takes that same attitude to the O-line and QB then we'd be an elite team again instead of a heartbreak hotel losing close games and what ifs'!

I thought about this yesterday: maybe the football gods have put a curse on Tom Donahoe for coming in and sticking it to Bruce,Thurman, and Andre. Maybe we can't win until someone sticks it to TD; just a thought!

Amen to that statement!

While Eric has dropped a few passes this year he has more than made up for them as he is the only weapon we have. Dropping all key TD's, he has made all of them besides 2! BTW TO has made his share of drops this year and in his career but he like Moulds has more than made up for it. I can't believe anyone who has watched any Bills game would be stupid enough to say Moulds is over rated or should be traded, especially when he has made all these plays, continued his catch streak, etc without ever having a quality top QB getting him the ball or a legitimate offensive scheme that has an orchestraed gameplan. Imagine Moulds playing in a West Coast offense or catching balls from Peyton. Or worse case cut him and watch Tom Brady or even Jay Fielder dropping bombs on him burning our db's...

No the sad thing will be starting the what if's IF we turn things around and end up winning WINNABLE agmes and end up one game back from missing the playoffs in 2004 or us fixing the offense in 2005 with JPL but then having the D fall off...it seems that us Bills fan just can't win. I know that once we become competitive again I'll have to listen to my friend rag (he is an annoying Cowgirl friend BTW) about how we can't win the big one. Until we win it all we will never win to some. But what the he!!; a 3 game winning streak or a convincing win against a team like the Pats would seem great right now...

Regadless though the D has played pretty gold all year; as good the Pats or Jets. As a matter of fact better for they have been exposed because of an inept offense that they have to bail out. Imagine the Colts with our defense playing the way they have in 2004 or us having evn half the offense Indy or the Vikings have; we'd be at least 4-2 or hell 6-0!

...Drew and company throw it away! This is very frustrating how the Bills can not put it together; in 2002 we were all offense no defense. In the first few games last year before Moulds got hurt we looked like a team; after he goes down until now we are a one dimensional team that can't win on that dimension: damn good but not great on D. I just knew for sure in 2004 that by us keeping the same defensive personell, swapping Vincent for Winfield that this team would kick some @$$ this year for with a healthy Moulds and the drafting of Lee Evans this offense would step it up enough to make us contenders; boy was I wrong! Hell maybe we should kept KillDrive I meant Gilbride as offensive coordinator for at least this year he has better personell to run his style of offense this year. I don't get it; it seems as if the only consistent offensive threat we have is Moulds. There seems to be truth to those posts were Drew haters claim he locks on to one reciever. And all these stupid posts I have read the past few weeks regarding dumping Moulds are ludacris; if he had say went to Philly ala TO he'd be the one lighting the NFL up! I mean can't we find a way to get the other guys involved? I mean Reed strength is suppose to be crossing routes and RAC, where is it? Where is the utilization of Lee Evans instead of just using him as a decoy? Where is the passes to Campbell? At least they have finally got Shelton involved. For the past few years the Bills have never established a passing game with a two-back set, their main running personell or ran consistently with a 3 WR set. They are so predictable it is painful. They have no scheme whatsoever, it is pathetic. Do you know what my worse fear is? That the Bills will finally get it all together, go on a winning streak and miss the playoffs by one game and leave the fans sitting here saying what if at the beginning that had won this winnable game or that and then get our hopes up for 2005. Then based on the sucess of 2004 start out 2005 with Drew and START OUT LOSING THE SAME ALL OVER AGAIN MAKING THE SAME EXCUSES, WHAT IF!!!!

Now I have nothing against most of the moves TD made for they were the most part well calculated moves that just haven't panned out yet; I'm not most on this board who give up on players after a few games. But the WM move on draft day I feel was bad for we were more than one player away and that player was not a RB. Now I am not dissing WM, I'm just responding to the statement that he should play for he was a first round pick. My whole problem with WM is the overhyping of his performance against a suspect run D and the taking for granted the play Henry has showed us the past 3 seasons. Now hear me out, while WM ran hard and gain all these yards after contact, he wouldn't have had to encounter as much contact at the line if he had ran into the hole where the play were designed instead of tippy toeing at the LOS. That is why he averaged about 3.2 yards; if he can correct this and hit the hole hard when it is there then maybe he can be special WHEN HE IS BACK TO RUNNING FULL SPEED! Everyone seems to have gotten brainwashed into thinking he is so much faster and more explosive than TH and at this point and this is clearly not true as WM is yet to show the speed he had at Miami. I'll admit he is much more physical back than I expected and a better blocker and probably a better reciever than TH but right now he is too hesitant when he hits the LOS to be considered a better runner and better D will expose his flaw and then you guys will be crying to put TH back in after a few sub-performances, WRITE IT DOWN, YOU HEARD IT HERE FIRST!

This year I'll admit Henry has struggled but also he has faced some good run defenses in the Jags & Raiders and he ran pretty good against NE (I was alittle disappointed about the Jets game however) and I would have expected the same if he had played against Miami for their run defense was suspect which is why I think WM game has been a little overated, especially being that he only average about 3.2 YPC outside the 31 yard run. To make Henry a scapegoat is ludacrous, especially with WM having similar averages in the same games running behind the same line. When the blocking picks up and the competition level drops Henry will once again excel but I mean running aginst the teams mentioned above and now the Ravens is no picnic. Some act like WM is Bo Jackson and TH is Marcus Allen, with one RB running for 5 YPC and the other at 3.8 YPC!

So what if he was a number 1 draft pick? Most would agree that was a wasted pick, even if WM turns out to be the next OJ. All that will mean is that TD got lucky with his gamble. If he had drafted for other needs the Bills have we probably wouldn't be 1-4. Did you see the burst Joe Burns showed when he spelled WM in the Miami game or the game Sammy Morris had, does that make them special? If we had drafted for a need that year and just had one of these backs come of the bench we wouldn't have a need of 2 quality starting backs. With that being said, I wish WM all the best as I am a Bills fan. And how can you be stupid enough to make acomment that TH can't get the job done? BS; you'd have to be a fool to think he is hands down better than Henry; especially after posting identical numbersthroughout the year. As a matter of fact, up until the play where he slipped, TH game against NE was more impressive than WM game against the Dolphins as he consistently gained yardage against them keeping the chains moving..

I can't believe some of you fans on this board; how you guys can jump on and off the ship so fast. I mean for the Bills sake I hope WM does well. But for god sakes he had one good game. I mean I kept note for at one point he had 23 for 75 yards, nothing special. But then he finished with 111 on 26 as he had a 31-yard run. While he ran hard, kept his feet moving and gain all those yards after contact, if you take away that run he only averaged 3.2 YPC. If Henry hadn't slipped on 3rd and 2, had a 20+ run and we had won that game against the Pats everybody be on his you know what; he finished with 98 yards as he ran hard from beginning to the end. My biggest irk is that some seem to think WM is so much faster or a break away threat than TH. He hasn't showed me any explosiveness whatsoever this year. The 31 yard run he had was more impressive with the stiff arm he showed than his display of speed. He NEVER explodes into a hole or out off a cut making defenses respect his speed. TH hits the hole way faster and harder than WM. Now WM can get by with his patient running style read and react defenses but aggressive, penetrating defenses will stop him cold if he continues to hesitate at the LOS. With that being said WM is strong runner, hard to bring down, moves the pile much better than I expected; I thought he'd be more of a slasher type. He also is a much better blocker than TH. Next year he might be all that is advertised. But for anybody to think that at this point and moment that WM is head and shoulders, hands down better runner than TH after one game is ludicrous for they must have amnesia to the way TH has played the past 3 seasons. It is a shame that the fans on this board can turn on Bills players so quick after one bad game or stretch. Think about, especially this year: Nate Clemens, Eric Moulds, Travis Henry London Fletcher, and Sam Adams has played consistently above average here for the past few years but once they have one bad play or game the fans here act like they are expendable and over rated. Some fans need to wake up a realized that one good play or game doesn't make a player a superstar or worthy of replacing a starter just as a bad play or game should send a major contributor to the bench. CONSISTENCY is the key...

I will be moving to the area in November; more than likely in Northern Suffolk or Chesapeake. I'm coming to town this weekend for a visit and I want to know a place I can watch the Jets game.I remember a post a few weeks back about a few spots in VA Beach; can somebody tell me what those places were and/or if there are any spots closer in Chesapeake or Portsmouth to watch the game; or even Hampton for that matter?

The Panthers playbook is great for the Bills. But the best feature on Madden is the create a playbook. You could simply go thru each team playbook and choose up to 78 plays you like; do that for starters. You can then either edit these plays or create them from scratch. You can also do the same on defense. Some don't like this as they claim it is unfair. But I hate to see those run the same 5-10 plays over and over again. If your partner is the competitve type he would come back with his own playbook, especially if he feels that it gives you an advantage. To me this brings more strategy in the game for if you are a true gamer you would step your game up a notch rather than try to limit your opponenet. If Madden 2003-2005 didn't do such a lousy job of the Classic teams ratings then this feature would really be awesome because I would have a K-Gun playbook with 3 WR setup to play with the 1990-1993 Bills or a Run-n-Shoot with 4 WR setup for my boy when he plays with the Oilers. But since they gave too many guys high ratings on the classic teams strategy doesn't mean as much. Take for instance in Super Tecmo Bowl you had to find the correct plays to match your personell or you would either limit your production or get killed by putting players in the wrong position. Once they do a better job in rating players in Madden in more fields you see more of a similar effect for gameplanning according to your personell would mean a lot more... There is no better feeling in the world than to make a game winning play that you designed to take advantage of your boy's stupid play. Best example one of my boys in Madden 2003 loved to use his MLB to take away passes across the middle, no matter what defense he called and his MLB coverage assignment. SO I designed a play where the WR ran 5 yard outs and the TE an angle slant route to the left. I sent the FB on a deep route, which is usually the MLB coverage responsibilty when you blitz. In the 4th quarter I called this play and it worked just as I hoped, with Centers running free down the middle and I won the game. So play around with creating a playbook. Warn your buddy beforehand and tell him to step his game up; if he object's to it then at least create one for play against the PC and see the differnece; you'd be glad you did for over half the plays form most teams playbooks you don't even use!

No, I've kept up with this board for the past four years; the biggest complaint I have had is the constant negativity and this season is the best example of those who claim to be Bills fan bashing our team and it's best players and writing them off after only two close losses. It really irks me the most when our superstars are chopped up after one or two bad games by our own fans!

This board is sad! After 2 close loses to teams that have played great on D, we are quick to write this season and it’s best players off, HOW PATHETIC!! Most TRUE fans stick up for their teams and players and try to over hype them instead of bring them down. For instance, how can anybody lay too much blame on our defense? I always hear if we had a better left DE, better FS, etc. I mean what do you EXPECT them to do, shut out teams every week? Now everybody seems to want to bash our team’s best players after only TWO games? If we turn the ship around and go 14-2 will all these guys who abandon ship try to jump back on and act like they knew we had the talent and that we were headed in the right direction all along? I mean honestly, how can any TRUE Bills fan bash Eric Moulds after TWO games and claim that he is a shell of his former self; he has gotten a TD pass in both games! If he were utilized more in the 1st game he would have had a 100+ as he was toying with the DB on the Jaguars. What if Charles Woodson didn’t grab Eric as he ran by him on the play action on Moulds ONLY deep attempt in two games; I’ll bet the Raiders fans would be dissing Woodson for being over rated for getting torched by Moulds. As a matter of fact, let the Bills be stupid and trade Moulds and send him to a team with a real offensive scheme and QB and see what numbers he puts up for aside from Drew he has never had a quality QB or offensive scheme and he has still produced big time! Swap Moulds with TO in Philly and I guarantee you Moulds would put up the same numbers when utilized correctly! Or how about Henry; while he is not a top back, how can a TRUE Bills fan turn on him after he played against the two of the best run defenses in the NFL without a threat of a passing attack down field? Now while I’ll admit he is a liability against the blitz, how can anybody forget how much heart this kid has run with the past two seasons? Nate Clemens has done nothing but be a solid DB for the Bills but yet he continues to get bashed; not on a week-by-week basis because WEEK BY WEEK he comes to play! Some try to dwell on this play here or this play there but you must be a fool if you don’t acknowledge that he is an above average talent. Now if he were one of the highest paid then maybe you might expect him to walk on water but a TRUE fan would acknowledge that Clemens has played extremely well for us; it is a reason teams don’t throw for 200+ on the Bills and he is one of them. Now Drew is a different case; I can see the criticism for he hasn’t played well in over a year. But even he deserves a benefit of the doubt playing with a new scheme that has him rushing throws and not utilizing his real strength, which is the deep ball. You see, last year Gilbride was our whipping boy and RIGHTFULLY so as he failed to realize that our strength was running the ball and that with Moulds not at a %100 we had no deep threats but he kept forcing the issue, trying to fit a square peg in a round hole. But in 2004 with a healthy Moulds and Lee Evans the deep ball should be utilized more instead of dump offs. Face it: We have the talent to score but until a scheme and the proper chemistry is installed we are never going to be a threat. But please give the guys more than TWO GAMES against tough defenses before you write them off as pathetic! Some times blame is warranted. But for guys such as Moulds, Henry, and Nate to be bashed, treated as UNRECYCABLES after ONLY TWO games is ridiculous; how can a TRUE Bills fan not see what these guys have brought to the table the past 3 seasons and write them off after TWO games is embarrassing! This board show cases nothing but negativity; if you were an outsider and didn’t know any better you’d think that we are getting blowed out by 20 every week with no hope insight or that M Williams was the worst lineman in the league. Some on this board are just like that loud mouth Jerry Sullivan who just writes negativity for an effect, acting like they have all the answers. For these types I feel like pulling a Warren Sapp: PUT A JERSEY ON!!

As I've said before, I don't think the line is as much at fault as Drew is and the backs are as far as sacks go. %75 of the sacks Drew has taken since he has been here are either from blitzes and coverage sacks, with a lot last year being coverage sacks. Bottom line the Bills must find a way to beat the blitz and make teams pay for it. There must be more slants and crossing routes and screens run to take advantage of less coverage and we must get somebody other than Moulds involved. Moulds and Reed strength is suppose to be run after the catch, why aren't they given that opportunity more. It seems that Moulds only runs streaks and hitches; god knows what Reed is doing. Overall, I think our personell is fine. Even the line is not as bad as some here believes. Hell if you stay on this site long enough you'd think the Bills were a bunch of bums like the 1990's Bengals/Clippers with no hope in site, ENOUGH SAID!

We have the talent on offense to get it done bottom line. We have the same skill guys with a healthy Moulds who lit teams up in 2002. If the Bills employ a better scheme to keep teams off balance, less predictable and make them pay for blitzing then we will turn things around if the D keeps up its play. Where are the screen plays,crossing routes,etc.; plays designed to beat the blitz? Instead our only option seems to be dump off plays, mainly to FB and TE's. We are not putting the ball in our explosive players hands or allowing them to make plays. And as far as the running game goes, why run at the strength of teams and not stick with runs that are successfull during the game and force the D to adjust? If we can get a flow and an identity to this offense we can succeed.

How do you expect to be consistent on offense without a scheme? We need to come up with a scheme that has personnel with which we can have balance success running and passing and only change this group in extreme situations such as goaline or 3rd and 10 plus. Either we need to run from a spread formation with 3 WR or be able to pass with either 2 WR and 2 backs or 2 WR and 2 TE sets. Like I’ve said times before you can pretty much predict the call based on our personnel in the game whether it is a run or pass as there is no uncertainty for the D. The offense never seems to try to establish a flow in any aspect. And since Drew is probably the worst play action QB in the league why bother with his half@$$ fake attempts. I think this team would be better suited to go back to 2002 style, utilizing 3 WR formations and spreading the defense out, especially if the utilize Evans speed over Shaw. Then teams would play more cover 2 against us. This would all work fine if the Bills run the ball consistently with this group on the field. With 2 backs or 2 TE’s in most of the times the D cheats their safeties up and play the run or blitz, either getting a sack or making Drew panic and dump the ball off. In this style our WR’s aren’t even given an attempt to be a part of the game as the whole offense sees to be dink and dunk with a few runs thrown in here and there. With 3 WR in the game there would have to be an extra DB in to cover them, taking away some run support. In the 3rd quarter with this group in we had our best drive that started at the 5-yard line. On that drive we missed the 4th and goal. Everybody keeps crying about our O-line; we ran the ball pretty well against 2 good run defenses. As a matter of fact if they had continued to run off tackle and if Henry had changed cleats earlier we could have had much better run production. Now here comes the hard part: most of the sacks come from blitzing and 1) Drew is not recognizing it quickly enough and 2) the backs and O-line aren’t adjusting. It is not as if our lineman are getting consistently beat one on one but more missed assignments and Drew holding onto the ball too long. As a matter of fact if we switched QB’s in yesterdays game to results would have been opposite as numerous times Gannon was pressured but he made plays under pressure; if he were Drew the Bills would have gotten 5 sacks yesterday. Drew and the backs must handle recognizing and picking up the blitz or we will see it again and again.

Same as last year. You can just look at the personell that we have on the field and call the plays from the stands. I mean when we run we always have a fullback or a second tight end in the game. Then if that doesn't work we bring in 3-4 WR to try and convert a 3rd down over 5 yards. It seems as if the Bills just call plays and hope they work instead of stringing plays together. Why don't we pass at least %75 of the time in formations and with personell that we run with? It would make it a lot harder for the defense to gameplan. With this commitment to the run, where are the play action passes? For instance if we have success running on 1st or 2nd down everything is fine. But if a D stops our run on the first couple of downs when it is obvious we are going to run then we then try to spread them out on 3rd. We need an identity: either we are going to come out with 2 backs or 2 TE's and learn to pass with this running personell on the field or we should go to a singleback 3 WR formation and learn to run with this group and make it our base formation. The Bills aren't dominant enough against better teams to just come in and say we are going to run you in the ground or we are going to air it out so some and stop us. But we have the talent to do both very good so why have a gameplan that is so predictable...wait we don't have a gameplan...we haven't had one since the K-gun. All the Bills do is call plays and hope they work. We don't set teams up and try to confuse them or make them bite we just call plays!

Anybody who thinks Clemens is a bum, a garbage player just because he missed this one play doesn't know football; some dumb@$$ even has the nerve to say that Clemens was toast last year; we had the best pass defense in football last year. Clemens had always shown great coverage skills and is rarely beat or picked on. Now if Clemens had been beaten badly on the play then maybe you could bash him but even then you can't discount the play he has shown the last few years. But face it: the catch was spectacular; the coverage was outstanding. It was more a great catch by Smith then bad coverage or technigue by Nate. Clemens should have tried to knock it down OK. But Smith's catch along with Wilford were unbelievable video game catch; a Madden 2003 special that I would swear that I had been cheated by the video game. Now I know how it feels to be cheated in real life!