Motorin'
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3 minutes ago, SWATeam said:
This guy is obviously trying to make some money on this, which is fine. He is selling t-shirts. Who do you think are the market for these t-shirts? Bills superfans are. Do you think that publicly airing his grievances with the Bills is a smart business decision?
I don't think there's much strategy going on here, just a guy thinking out loud on Twitter.
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1 minute ago, CorkScrewHill said:
If the new breakfast cereal Frothing Flakes used the imagery I get it. I am certain the Bills thought he would not mind because it is in support of the team he loves as I am certain there have been many incidences of the Bills having pictures of their fans on their website .. most people love it. I 100% guarantee they will no longer use it and the only person who will be unhappy is Mr. Miller.
I think the Bills should work something out with him.
I don't understand why people in Buffalo can't allow other people's grievances to be heard without this "your dead to me" attitude.
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7 minutes ago, CorkScrewHill said:
Just curious .. did you pay the Bills for the icon you are using for this site. Did Pinto Ron get paid for the BillsMafia video NBC recently did? Nope .. there are limitations. This was a fans rant caught on video .. he needs to chill.
The Bills allow their logo to be used on fan sites bc it promotes their brand. It's organic advertising for them. They made that decision.
Pinto Ron agreed to be filmed for the NBC spot. Does that mean that Pinto cars can take his face and slap it on their ads?
Mark Miller agreed to be filmed for a sports show, that doesn't necessarily mean it's ok for a corporation to repurpose his face for their advertising purposes without his consent.
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59 minutes ago, Gugny said:
You think people buy tickets because of commercials?
I think the Bills spend hundreds of thousands of dollars a year advertising, maybe a few million.
And they do one big 30 second commercial each year that they use to sell Tix and merch. That commercial used Mark Miller this year.
Unless Mark Miller signed his rights to his likeness away at the time of the original taping, the Bills should license his likeness if they want to use it in advertising.
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2 minutes ago, Steptide said:3 minutes ago, Steptide said:
Only way he'll get any money out of this is if he owns the rights to that original news piece. Otherwise, stop being a douche and enjoy your 15 mins of fame
So, if you got interviewed by a news channel about your favorite beer, and later on your face was on bill boards promoting that beer all across the country, you don't think you own the rights to your own image?
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22 minutes ago, End The Drought said:
The video belongs to the news station that broadcasted it
The video itself does, but unless he signed his rights away, he still owns the rights to his likeness and voice.
I also don't get the animosity here. The Bills are a billion dollar company and used the guy in a commercial to sell a couple million dollars worth of tickets.
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7 minutes ago, aristocrat said:
yea who owns the video at this point? the tv station 25 years later? the bills might have bought it. guy is trying to sell shirts and stuff but might have overthought his actual demand.
It depends, if he signed a release at the time of filming, that release likely granted the company rights to his image and voice in perpetuity. They would also likely have the right to license it.
But a lot of news channels don't use releases for "news" bc their footage is covered under the first amendment ...
If the company that originally filmed didn't use a release that granted them the rights to the footage and the rights to assign it, Mark has a case.
5 minutes ago, Clemfield2622 said:No, he's not.
News footage is public domain, not private property.
No it's not. You can't use news footage without paying the company that filmed it. And it costs a pretty penny.
But there's a difference between news footage and using a person's likeness and personality to sell in advertising.
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He's totally right. You can't use someone's voice and image in advertising without licensing those rights. He's going to get paid, and he should. That's how the world works.
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14 minutes ago, Scott7975 said:
I also believe its mental. At least some of his drops have come from him turning his head to look upfield before he actually caught the ball. That is just a focus thing to me.
If I'm Dawson Knox, I'm spending the off season with one of those ball machines, taking 1000 reps a day. He has the potential to be special.
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2 minutes ago, JR in Pittsburgh said:
it’s strange. He has made several spectacular catches. It’s rare for a guy with bad hands to then make the circus catches he has also made.Which leads me to believe it's a mental ) concentration thing rather than a "bad hands" thing. Guys with bad hands don't make those catches.
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People need to put the Blame Thrower down. Milano and the defense had a bad game bc the Patriots game plan was exceptional.
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11 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said:
Exactly. I've tired so much of these micro-analyzers I've put most of them on mute. Makes the board a whole lot more enjoyable.
Can you share a link with me on how to do that?
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3 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said:
Bill Belicheat Defense vs a 2nd year QB in his 26th career start at home on a national stage.
Can you tell us how that typically goes for the young QB?
Again, Allen missed some critical throws, but he also wasn't suckered into costly mistakes Patriot defenses.
The only thing Buffalo's defense had to do was keep Brady & co out of the End zone with 9 minutes remaining and Buffalo wins. That's how McDermott has built this team... for us to win in those situations.
This game may be an outlier for our Defense, but I bet the players on D would put this game on themselves as well.
Allen, if we're all being objective, did better than anyone would have expected considering the circumstances.
He has work to do obviously, but I think this game probably should be more a shot of confidence for him than one of dejection
Josh had a 102 QB rating against the Pats last night. He's getting better, in fact his QB ranking is 25% better than last year while only throwing 3 INT's in the last 11 games.
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21 hours ago, row_33 said:
sure it willyou think they pranced around the dressing room and said who cares?
Did you play sports? Did you laugh after a hard loss in football?
I'm pretty sure they started fighting about whose fault the loss was and who needs to be fired...
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24 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said:
No. A scat back. Someone who can go in motion, catch the ball on third down. One more chess piece that Daboll can use to keep linebackers and safeties guessing. Would be the perfect compliment to Motor’s efficiency.
Why can't we have both?
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2 minutes ago, Easterner said:
"Because the Bills aren't championship caliber yet".
This is a now league my friend. Just because you make the playoffs this
year doesn't mean much due to free agency and who knows how the
draft pans out. The Rams went from the SB loss last year to missing
the playoffs when many of there fans thought they would win the SB.
Many teams have 1/3 in change of personnel.
We know what McD is, we know what Allen is, what we don't know is
what the front office will do this spring and summer.
Totally, what reason is there to believe that the Front Office can strengthen the roster in an off season through draft and Free Agency?
And you are so right, we know exactly what Josh Allen is, and there's no reason to believe that anyone at the QB position can change and grow... No evidence that can happen... Once a Wyoming QB always a Wyoming QB.
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33 minutes ago, Billsfan1972 said:
SF went 3-13 last year & are 12-3 this year with a much harder schedule.
So tired of people so enamoured with this team..... They are 25-22 under McD & were 24-24 prior three years.....
I'm a fan & always will be but yes expect more.
Next year will be a much harder year, with a tougher schedule (NFC West), so will be interesting to see what happens.
So you don't think it's likely the Bills will improve as much next year as they did this year?
We're in position to add talent through the draft and FA, ton of cap space. Are contributing rookies will have a whole off season of NFL strength and conditioning, Oliver, D Johnson, Songletary, Knox...
And Josh will have an entire off season to build on his improvements this year.
But no chance of being better next year, huh?
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18 minutes ago, MDH said:
All 17 point games are not created equally. If the O picked up first downs and held the ball and punted continually pinning the opposing offense deep in their territory yet only scored 17 points, while not great, you can work with that.
Barely moving the ball, barely holding the ball and scoring only on a short field from a TO and two big plays isn’t going to win you many games.
That said, I know how people on this board like to blame one side of the ball or the other, that’s not what I’m doing. Both the O and D who horrible last night. If not for two fantastic throws (and one great catch) the Bills would have been run out of the building.
Neither side of the ball was horrible. Both sides could have played better, and certain things, like the play calling on the back to back 3&outs drove me crazy, but they were in that game until the very last play.
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22 minutes ago, Cripple Creek said:
What made you decide to ruin an otherwise perfectly decent thread by adding large chunks of snark and also demeaning those around you? Is that your clickbait style or are you an ass?
The game day experience is ruined for me in large part by the pervasive negative attitude I've described in this post. I'm calling out a type of fan behavior, exhibited on this forum, that I despise. It's the behavior that turns me off, in the context of where the Bills are and where there's good reason to think they are going.
I wish there were 2 game day threads. One to talk about what the Bills need to do to win, and one for posters to talk about who needs to be blamed and fired... I'd always post in the solution focused thread. But clicking through page after page of raw hatred just makes me want to leave and stop communicating on the forum with fellow Bills fans.
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1 minute ago, 2020 Our Year For Sure said:
It gets a lot harder once you pay Josh. This year and next is a crucial time
He's on a 5 year contact, no?
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It's clear to me that the process McD preaches has several stages. He has achieved a major step, establishing a culture and roster that is playoff caliber. In 2 of his first 3 years the Bills are in the playoffs.
After last year's 6-10 season, it would be extremely unrealistic for fans to expect or demand a "championship caliber team" this year. And yet, playing the top 2 teams in the AFC late in the season (Ravens and Pats) the Bills were within one score and had the ball in scoring position late in both games.
There are clear improvements the team needs to make to move from playoff caliber to championship caliber, and the fact that those needs are clear is an amazing accomplishment! I am so encouraged that the next 3-5 years of Bills football is going to put the team in position to compete for the Super Bowl.
At the same time, the number of delusional fans that expect the team to be championship caliber this year, and call for the firing of McD, or Daboll or Allen, well. In my opinion, you all deserve another 20 years of musical chairs at head coach and qb, and another 2 decade playoff drought... Maybe you can buy a billboard that calls for Josh Allen to be cut if it makes you feel like you have power?
As for me, I'm looking forward to talking about ways to improve, to talk about what the Bills can do to make that transition from playoff caliber to championship caliber. But I don't have the need to have a public crucifixion after a Bills loss, to call for blood to satisfy my inability to accept disappointment...
I'm looking forward to the playoffs, and I'm excited to see what adjustments the coaching staff makes to get better themselves. But I'm not expecting a championship this year, and that's ok. Because the Bills aren't championship caliber yet. And that's ok.
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I think you should do a poll every week for the next five years.
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Let us know when Pegs taps you to make roster moves!
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Yeldon would be a good compliment at this point.
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Marc Miller (Dallas is Going Down) trying to cash in on the Bills
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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People apparently love excuses to act like *****.