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    CJ Beathard only has 3 more career starts than Josh Allen

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    13 minutes ago, jrober38 said:

     

    The WGR radio guys (minus John Murphy) are all forward thinking football fans. 

     

    None of them wanted Allen before we picked him, and they all already know this is going to end badly. 

     

    This was the first week they got really critical of him. There were a lot of calls for them to put Allen on the bench for a month and let him learn, because he's obviously not learning anything on the field otherwise he'd show signs of improvement on the field. 

     

    Guys like Allen never work out in the NFL. I don't know what we're hoping for but it's overwhelmingly likely it's not going to happen. 

    Sub 60% completion percentage + Small School = Red Flag

     

    at least Rosen, Darnald, and Mayfield played against high level college competition. It was such a Bills move. And still people will justify it. 

     

    Some of us have been fans enough to remember ill advised picks like JP Losman and EJ Manuel. I hope he works out. But I could see him getting beat out by a veteran next year and him fading away into obscurity like EJ if this keeps up 

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    CJ Beathard only has 3 more career starts than Josh Allen

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    2 minutes ago, batmanfreek said:

    Of course.  Has nothing to do with the team that is surrounding him or coaching.  It's all QB talent.  Just like Mahomes.  They would both flourish here.  ?

    9ers were playoff contenders before Jimmy G went down.  And it wasn't ALL because of him.  It was the combination of couching, QB AND the pieces around him. 

     

    We don't have that here.  So before we get into the "Finger of shame to 1BD for not drafting this kid!", that kid and most others would SUCK here. 

    9ers we’re struggling this year. Last year jimmy put together a string a wins but they were fr from contenders. Their offense is better for sure but Beathard still looks worked bette me than Josh Allen. 

    Tyrod Taylor finally unleashed in a "competent offense with weapons."

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    24 minutes ago, Tyrod's friend said:

    You spend an awful lot of time saying this method and that method can't be relied upon for getting a franchise QB, then you conclude with drafting a QB in the first round - which has ... what? a 20% success rate? Less?

    I've never said it is the only way, or that you are going to find the great franchise QB that way. But there are 10, all-time franchise QBs and to me, outside of Peyton Manning nearly all of them were easily acquired elsewhere than the top 5 picks in the draft. A lot of them weren't even the first QB overall taken. I hardly think the only way is picking one up in the draft.

    QBs are the result of a team, of good coaching, of a system that is built around them. Presumably the Texans had a near MVP QB there in DeShaun. Didn't look that way to me, and he was picked high in the draft. 24 starters. QB is important. It's not everything; it just seems that way when you have the recency bias of having Tom Brady bash your brains in twice a year for most of this century. 

    A lot of the other stuff you wrote was pretty good. 

     

    I stated this perfectly. QBs are greatly a product of their supporting cast and coaching. The Bills have a decent supporting cast (defensively) but we went about t the wrong way. We should have brought an established vet in or keep the established vet in while we groomed a QB like Josh Allen. Who had very little college success to support what he showed during the predraft buildup. 

    Allen not showing progress

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    Just now, HappyDays said:

     

    Accuracy hasn't been his problem. Pocket awareness is his biggest weakness right now.

    Accuracy and pocket awareness are probkems. 

     

    Some guys are decisive. You watch Baker Mayfield and you instant understand he makes quick decisions and csnnread the field. Hell, even Peterman is decisive. Josh Allen reminds me of JP Losman, Tyrod Taylor or EJ Manual. He seems to wait to see someone open rather than anticipate. 

    If Anderson is physically able he should start next week

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    18 minutes ago, mjt328 said:

    As of this moment (after Week 6 of the 2018 season), Josh Allen is the worst starting quarterback in the NFL.  And it's not even close.  The other rookies (Mayfield, Darnold, Rosen) all look light-years ahead of him. 

     

    Allen wasn't ready in Week 2.  And a month later, he's still not even close to ready.  Instead of small improvements being made to his game, I personally think he's taking steps backwards.  His accuracy and mechanics are all over the place.  And they don't appear to be getting better.  It's one thing to be hesitant when progressing through reads.  But he even hesitates on quick slants.  His pocket presence is awful, and he consistently bails on clean protection instead of stepping up.

     

    I'm not worried about the 2-4 record.  I'm not worried about him simply struggling.  I'm worried about whether our staff is doing the right thing by playing him right now.  Maybe he would be better off sitting the bench for awhile.  Maybe not.  I really don't know. 

     

    What worries me the most, is that Sean McDermott doesn't seem to have a solid grasp on what to do either. 

     

    McDermott and the talent evaluators are terrible at identifying talent on offense. We traded for Kelvin Benjamin? We made the move to start Peterman last year. And ma made the same decision to start him and cut McCarron. We drafted Zay Jones. There's very little reason to believe that this staff identified something in Allen that many other scouts didn't. 

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