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Derek Carr's Oakland Raiders have beaten 2 playoff teams in his 3 years at the helm. The Brock O led Broncos in 2015, and the Brock O led Texans in 2016. 1-3 in 2016 and 1-7 in 2015.
I'm gonna go with yes.... they do.
Are you trying to make a comparison to this two QBs???
I will have the last laugh....
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Glad you agree. It's not good at all. That will get the number Super 1 defense tired.
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He has not shown anything.But athletism. He can't throw with pressure. The Miami game we should have won regardless. He was running and not hitting open receivers. Wood was mad most of the time last year. Our TE position regressed because of him. He holds on too long and when he throw it it's a 1-10 chance at best. I don't think any good team is afraid of him.
Cardale will play this year. He will light it up in camp. He will get his chance. I personally don't think Yates it the rook can actually beat him out. He is more athletic than they are. OTAs are just the beginning when pads go on he is a gamer. I just have that feeling.
They were 25th in the league in 3 and out percentage. That no es bueno.
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In crucial situations TT is straight sorry. When we had Orton he brought us back against Minn. The defense played horrible. They gave up over 500 yards on offense we still won. Why? Because when the game is on the line you gotta make plays. If you can't do that you ain't worth it to me. I love Jimmy Johnson. No excuses none.if you can't do it when the goin gets tough you are out.
I meant defense.
I guess what we keep coming back to you say things like they will lose, yet he has won more games than he has lost. Saying things doesn't make it true. The facts say that the Bills were a top 12 scoring offense and top 10 DVOA each of the last two years. There are 32 teams. They are in the top 1/3. None of that is subjective or debatable. It's not some fake optimism or anything, that's just what it is.
It is not good enough if you can't win. Bottom line. We won against sorry teams. He is one game above 500. 6 years in the league. Stats can be deceiving. If you play a garbage team then yeah. I wanna compare him to John Kidna. When they asked him to start with a bunch of weapons he ripped it up. Palmer did not beat him out they had to give him the job. That is a classic example of how it should be.
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I love it when people put a lot off optimism. We will be playing good teams the whole schedule. TT is gonna have 200yards passing with all the weapons,200+ rushing we will loose. Then exxxxxcuses. It's the play calling, it was the refs, it was the o-line, it wasn't his fault on the interception... Last year they did have Woods who signed for Millions. He had TE, he had enough to do better. But it's not him. That's why the didn't pay him all that money. Oh he didn't have Sammy. Lets blame Sammy. We should have won the first Jets game. But the offense was... We should har rallied back the Pitts game.
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The Bills don't get very many three and outs with Taylor at the helm and an offense of coordinator focus on moving the chains rather than all or nothing plays the way Roman was. They were 14th in the league and three and out percentage in the 13 games Taylor was running Lynn's offense.
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Twilight Zone
Solid article, BTW.
Do the other two fazes of the team play any role, or just Taylor and the offense?
He should not worry about the other side he needs to keep the other side off the field more regularly defenses get tired of 3 and outs. That makes the defense look like dirt.
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Kirby he is not good period. He will fail in any NFL system. Unless he is playing against bad teams he does not succeed. As soon as they make him beat you with the throws we lost the game. This year we have a very tough schedule. Let's see. I'm banking on failure. Until he proves different we are 1-3 at best with him in the first quarter of the season...
Success means dominate and win against good teams. Denver, Steelers, Pat's Seattle,Atl etc.
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He could never throw specially in clutch.
If the argument is "we need to throw the ball up the seam to Clay more" - I agree. Otherwise I don't even follow why it's important?
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It might be a demographic issue why I got banned.
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For one, TT did put his team in a position to win a national championship. A third stringer won a national championship off the bench. For two, Taylor has been in this (West coast system) for 4 years in the NFL. With all of your excuses, with everything at his disposal he better do good. The no receivers excuses go out the door. Now going back to the Ohio State thing. They benched him back in college with an excuse right? Now did the win without him National Champs? Urban Myers is a good coach but he has won 3 National titles and only barely won one off them with his players.That was Tebows Jr year. The rest have been with other coaches' players. Cardale was Trussles recruiter and his first year at Florida it was 22 Zook starters. So he has not shown he can recruiter great caliber players yet. At Ohio State they were mostly Truss guys. Therefore I discredit his Championship ability. Back to TT he has failed to throw a three hundred yard game except for one barely. In my book he already failed.Two years is enough. Dak??? TT has been in the NFL 6 years. That is why he was drafted in round six. I can't wait to say I told you.
Except for his game winning drives against Tennessee and Houston last year and Jacksonville this year. So 3 games is "never?"
And "like always thanks to TT"? Seriously?
Did you watch the last Game he played in or the game against Seattle?
Wow I forgot that you were the guy that was banned in record time on this board for pushing a guy who might be on another teams practice squad this year.
Bravo!
Sounds like a previously band troll under many different names on multiple boards.
I got banned because someone feelings got hurt when everyone he says a lot worse things. But once again people are bias. Like the are for TT.
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Except for his game winning drives against Tennessee and Houston last year and Jacksonville this year. So 3 games is "never?"
And "like always thanks to TT"? Seriously?
Did you watch the last Game he played in or the game against Seattle?
Wow I forgot that you were the guy that was banned in record time on this board for pushing a guy who might be on another teams practice squad this year.
Bravo!
Sounds like a previously band troll under many different names on multiple boards.
Yes, I saw the Seattle game. What was the outcome??? Loss.
There are a very small handful of QBs in the NFL that can consistently put their a team on their shoulders and win games, and even the few who can were not necessarily able to do it in their first couple seasons starting, and almost definitely not on a consistent basis.
If the Bills are getting rid of every QB that's unable to do that consistently, we won't have a QB to play the games.
Tyrod is by no means elite. He has plenty of flaws to work on to be considered a franchise type QB, and he may never get to that level. But like him or not, he's the best QB the Bills have had in easily over a decade, probably more like 2. You don't just throw him away for the dream of an upgrade (and no, Cardale is by no means an upgrade as of now).
All we can hope is that our new GM and coach will continue to draft and develop QBs until one of them cements themselves as that true franchise caliber guy.
But there's nothing wrong with starting Tyrod until someone legitimately EARNS the starting job away from him. If Cardale is able to do that, great! But he hasn't even come close to doing it yet. By almost all accounts he has really been struggling so far, and is 4th (last) on the depth chart right now for a reason...
I also disagree about Cardale being able to put a team on his back. IMO I've seen him do it once, maybe a couple times if I'm being generous. His very first start was fantastic, but he tailed off in his next 2, then struggled big time the next season. Ezekiel Elliott and Ohio State's run game carried that team way more than Cardale ever did. That team was fantastic, and one of the best coached teams in college football. That 2014 offense was the 2nd highest scoring offense in team history (only behind the 2013 offense) and it had nothing to do with Cardale (he didn't even play till the last 3 games to end the season). That offense was built to put up points.
Ezekiel Elliott and QB JT Barrett carried that team in 2014 and Elliott again in 2015, and even though Barrett didn't start the first 7 games he still blew Cardale out of the water in TDs.
In 2014 Barrett threw for 34 TDs, Elliott had 18. In 2015 Elliott ran for 23 TDs, JT Barrett accounted for 22 TDs (11 rushing, 11 passing, and that was with Cardale starting the first 7 games), and Cardale accounted for a total of 10...
I would also argue that Tyrod carried his college team to more wins than Cardale ever did at Ohio St. But college is college, and the NFL is the NFL. All that matters is what he's able to do in the NFL, and so far he hasn't been able to do squat. He struggled even running the practice squad! I have really seen nothing from Cardale that makes me think he has the ability to put a team on his back and carry it so far. I'd be thrilled if he does, but as of now it looks like there's a better chance he will be cut, and if he's lucky will end up on some team's practice squad. He has a ways to go before he's even close to ready to be an NFL starter, and that's just the reality of the situation right now (not to sound like a jerk or anything).
And last - it's terrible that you are rooting for TT to fail. That means you are rooting against the Buffalo Bills. Hard to call yourself a Bills fan when you say you "can't wait for TT to fail"...
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We will see in training camp.
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Cool man I love when so so stats defend him. Jags are good??? How about the Raiders. He failed to get first downs. How about the Steelers. Yes, we gave up points but we also stopped them a few times. And created two key turn overs where we could have rallied back. Once again the clutch. The Baltimore game???
GWD against a playoff team in Houston, 4QC against Jax this year. Can only play the teams on your schedule, and we've won more than we've lost with him in. Also, if you looked at the data in that post you'd notice that we've scored 24+ 18 times in the last 2 years, and lost 9 of them which speaks volumes about the D/ST.
Cool man I love when so so stats defend him. Jags are good??? How about the Raiders. He failed to get first downs. How about the Steelers. Yes, we gave up points but we also stopped them a few times. And created two key turn overs where we could have rallied back. Once again the clutch. The Baltimore game???
Some off those points were off turn overs.
Cool man I love when so so stats defend him. Jags are good??? How about the Raiders. He failed to get first downs. How about the Steelers. Yes, we gave up points but we also stopped them a few times. And created two key turn overs where we could have rallied back. Once again the clutch. The Baltimore game???
GWD against a playoff team in Houston, 4QC against Jax this year. Can only play the teams on your schedule, and we've won more than we've lost with him in. Also, if you looked at the data in that post you'd notice that we've scored 24+ 18 times in the last 2 years, and lost 9 of them which speaks volumes about the D/ST.
If he can't put the team on his shoulders he ain't worth it. What did Cardale do at Ohio State as a third string. Put the team on his back with no excuses. Some times the other team scores on us they are pros too. As a QB you have to overcome and keep their offense of the field. Defense get tired if you score early then punt the rest of the way.
Can't wait till TT fails. I'mma be like, "I Told you". He can't hang.
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Cardale Jones... Cardale Jones... Cardale Jones...
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Good point. I admit. He also opens the door for someone like Cardale to be right on his toes. Yes, everyone is hating on Cardale Wich has a way better upside. Cardale till this day has one about every game he started. He is proven when given the opportunity. And about TT's winning record is two losses away from horrible. Which y'all will see.
I really don't feel like deep diving again. If you want to know what I think about offensive and defensive production the past 2 years you can check out this post. If not, that's fine, but your take is pretty misguided imo.
Once again, against Tenn. 2 years ago. When else. And against a good team???
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He didn't win did he?
Maybe your right about comparing them but we could compare the situation. It seems like TT has an upside. He does not. He is who he is. An athlete playing QB. Who did we beat that was actually considered a good team.
So he did good in 15 games in two years. That is not good and once again who did we beat that is good.
Yeah he does not throw a lot. When he actually has to throw to win... Failing is the way.
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I think Dawkins can beat out Mills at RT and will help a bunch in pass protection. I'm trying not to be overly positive but I'm very excited about this draft class, especially the top 3.
I still think that passing offense hinges on Sammy's availability.
I don't think Taylor would improve no matter what you do. Once again he is to inconsistent. It is still the NFL defenses are going to adjust an will make you beat them with the passing game.
http://billswire.usatoday.com/2017/07/07/west-coast-offense-tyrod-taylor-buffalo-bills/
Looks into reasons the Bills passing game and Taylor could be significantly improved in 2017.
Talks a little about the changes in personnel, but the interesting stuff is when it dissects the passing concepts we're supposedly going to be executing this year: play-action passes, simple route concepts, the shallow cross, etc.
Closes with:
Yes, but he still has to deliver in the clutch. End of game clutch. Not just a half.
Every time we need to come back and win or get a key first down we fail and loose. Like always thanks to TT.
That's what happened with JP Losman. We failed.
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Cardale has not been given the chance. In his debut he showed a lot of poise and accuracy on that 4th quarter drive. Something TT has never done given all the chances. Plus Cardale sees the field a lot better. Looks more like a natural passer. He can sling it. And last but not least he knows how to win with adversity. OSU.
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In everyone's opinion he gives us the best chance to win. Then why haven't we won? Excuses... With a decent QB we win against Pittsburgh. TT could not put the team on his back. I agree with the buffalo news writer we should have moved on from Tyrod. Just gives him more to write if TT fails again giving him everything to his disposal. I just wonder how stupid you TT supporters are gonna look, running out of excuses.
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Jones would not cost us the game for not getting clutch first down. He wouldn't miss wide open targets. Again Parcels won a Superbowl without his starting QB.
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This is why I said there is only one Jimmy Johnson and one Bill Parcels. They don't hesitate to pull a person that is not performing they don't care who the player was. Parcels replaced Bledsoe with Romo a free agent, the rest is history. Jimmy replaced Burline with Aikman the rest is history. Whatever you all say TT brings he does not have the fire to become great they have gave him the team for 2 seasons after sitting for 4. I rather chance it with Jones.
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Why is it open comp? There is a reason that after two years the job is not really solidified. There are a lot if questions because he has not deliver in clutch time yet. 2 years as a starter. Once again we will let CJ walk like the rest of them. I don't even know why even draft the man.
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I will be saying "facial" to people that think like you. I told you... We will see the pressure is on TT. I love it when there is no excuses. When you're good you're good. 4 years as a backup 2 as starters. But now he'll be good this year.
We could have won a few more games if he was clutch in the 4th. All he has is a deep ball. He can't hit a 5 yard out. Pittsburgh game. Ring a bell.
His stats were against sorry teams. If you rush for 0 one game then 200 in another yeah you averaged 100 yards a game. He finally threw his 300 yard game. He is not a Russel Wilson.
Article on why 2017 passing game can make giant leap forward
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