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27 minutes ago, nucci said:
in 2020
All hail General Beane!
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2 minutes ago, NewEra said:
7th rd pick. Beane is a savant. If josh allen pans out, we’re going to be dam good in the future
It's really a 7th rounder? Is that a conditional pick? I hadn't seen what round the pick was. Woah!
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First of all.. it's just training camp. He's probably testing the limits of what he can and can not get away with. Better to do that in practice than an actual game. If the picks continue into the regular season, that's when they need to worry
Second of all:
QuoteMahomes -- who only played in one game last season as a rookie -- is also making his share of big plays at practice. On Wednesday he threw over the top to Tyreek Hill for a long touchdown pass.
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8 minutes ago, blacklabel said:
Heading into 2018 training camp, I decided to take a look at the Bills roster to see how the current group came together.
Total Overall Players as of 7/26: 89
Total Overall Draft Picks: 44
Total Bills Draft Picks: 19
Players Acquired Via Trade: 2
-L. McCoy, J. HughesTotal Overall Undrafted Players: 45
(This includes players added via waivers or signed from practice squads)
Total Undrafted Players Originally Signed by Bills: 19
Total Players Who Began Career w/Bills (i.e. "Homegrown Talent"): 38
Total Players Who Began Career w/Different Team: 51
Total 1st Round Picks: 8 (* = drafted by Bills)
-K. Benjamin, J. Allen*, V. Davis, T. White*, T. Edmunds*, J. Hughes, S. Lawson*, S. LotuleleiTotal 2nd Round Picks: 5
-Z. Jones*, L. McCoy, V. Ducasse, D. Dawkins*, T. MurphyTotal 3rd Round Picks: 5
-P. Gaines, O. Odighizuwa, J. Miller*, A. Washington*, H. Phillips*Total 4th Round Picks: 5
-T. Johnson*, T. Jones, R. Bodine, L. Thomas, K. RobinsonTotal 5th Round Picks: 10
-N. Peterman*, A. McCarron, J. Kerley, M. Hyde, S. Neal*, M. Milano*, M. Newhouse, W. Teller*, J. Mills, K. Williams*Total 6th Round Picks: 6
-R. McCloud*, K. Clay, T. Vallejo*, C. McDermott, N. O'Leary*, C. ClayTotal 7th Round Picks: 4
-M. Dupre, J. Poyer, M. Murphy, A. Proehl*Total Undrafted Players: 45
-S. Hauschka, C. Phillips*, C. Schmidt, C. Carter, R. Foster*, T. Davis*, A. Holmes, Q. Bray, R. Bush, L. Pitts, D. Marlowe, C. Ivory, K. Ford*, K. McCray, L. McCray, T. Cadet, B. Borders*, P. DiMarco, M. Boesen*, D. Lacey, R. Carter*, Z. Olstead*, R. Humber, J. Stanford, C. Thompson*, X. Woodson-Luster, E. Yarbrough, M. Love*, L. Alexander, A. Redmond, J. James, I. Boettger*, G. de Beer*, R. Ferguson*, R. Groy, D. Wesley, M. Porter*, J. Croom*, R. Streater, K. Towbridge*, K. Lee, B. Reilly*, R. Hatley, T. Fede, M. Lewis*
Wasn't Kelvin Benjamin acquired via trade? I'm assuming you're not counting draft picks that we traded for.
Fun list, thanks for it. Would be interesting to see where the Bills stack up vs other teams in terms of "homegrown talent". It feels like they have let go a lot of their former draft picks recently.
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2 hours ago, Shaw66 said:
Everyone's entitled to his opinion, but you'd like the opinion to make sense.
He says "there's zero empirical evidence" to support him becoming a reasonable starting quarterback. What? He has one of the best arms in the history of the league, so that's some empirical evidence. He can run, so that's some empirical evidence. He had a 37 on the Wonderlic. That's some empirical evidence. His trajectory as a developing QB is trending upward. That's some empirical evidence.
There is a very simple truth about college quarterbacks: If you aren't Andrew Luck, there is no reliable predictor of success in the NFL. These guys haven't even been to training camp. At this point there is no meaningful difference in the probabilities that Rosen, Allen, Mayfield and Darnold will be effective NFL starters at some point. None of them is a sure-fire starter; none of them is a sure-fire bust.
Declaring any of these guys as certifiable busts now is pure guess work. Sure, it can be your opinion, but that just means you're opinion isn't supported by sufficient evidence to make it credible. Each of these guys has too many positive measureables, each of these guys has been vetted and found to be a quality prospect by multiple pro teams, to make a certifiable-bust opinion make anything but guessing.
3 hours ago, GunnerBill said:Think the 4th of those is opinion. His 2016 tape is better (not a lot, but better) than his 2017 tape.
He played pretty well at the Senior Bowl. He ended 9-13 for 150 yards, 19 yards rushing, with 2 TD passes. Not too shabby. Baker Mayfield, on the same team, (the North) looked abysmal. Mayfield went 3-7 for 9 yards with -4 yards rushing. My memory is that Mayifled left the game after only a few series, because of some family issue. So Mayfield definitely had an excuse for not being able to perform. Tanner Lee (6th round QB to Jax) also was on the North and didn't perform too well
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The order for the division aside from the Pats at number 1 is likely irrelevant. At this point, I would be surprised if the Bills, Jets, or Dolphins make the playoffs. I would actually be surprised if the Pats didn't have a better record, seeing as they play the Bills, Jets, and Dolphins 6 times a year.
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4 minutes ago, The_Dude said:
Would you argue the cause. Justified. Wouldn’t trust him to take another swing.
Believe it or not, the draft isn't a science. The best you can do is make an educated guess as to whether someone is going to pan out. To stake his career on ONE draft pick is absolutely ridiculous. Additionally, he wheeled and dealed until we had a high enough pick to take a shot without completely mortgaging the future.
And as for the "wouldn't trust him to take another swing" comment: Based on their success last year through the draft, I would argue that (thus far) he has a great track record of success in the draft. Yes, it's just one year. And yes, they were working with the information provided to them from Whaley's scouts. But his personnel moves, his one draft, and his ability to wheel and deal should tell you that he knows what he is doing. Why wouldn't you want him to take another shot?
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JA seems like a really nice guy. He makes it easy to root for him. Let's just hope he is as good on the field as off of it
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34 minutes ago, reddogblitz said:
Thanks Mom. I'm rooting for the best QB whoever that is. I really don't care which one it is. Just win.
1 hour ago, reddogblitz said:I'm willing to write him off for this AND in the playoff game in 4 plays he got a first down, fumbled, had a penalty called on him,and then threw a pick.
Sure it was a tough situation, but if he's really our 2nd string QB, he needs to produce when called on. If he can't, we can't afford to wait for him to grow up when we got games to win.
I kindof put most of the blame for this on Coach McDermott. You GOTTA have a backup QB that can actually play. Nick Foles ... If the Eagles had Nasty Nate as their backup they probably would not have even made the playoffs.
"The most important position is QB. The second most important position is back up QB." -- HOF Joe Gibbs
As I recall, he looked really good in shorts last year too.
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14 minutes ago, reddogblitz said:I'm willing to write him off for this AND in the playoff game in 4 plays he got a first down, fumbled, had a penalty called on him,and then threw a pick.
Sure it was a tough situation, but if he's really our 2nd string QB, he needs to produce when called on. If he can't, we can't afford to wait for him to grow up when we got games to win.
I kindof put most of the blame for this on Coach McDermott. You GOTTA have a backup QB that can actually play. Nick Foles ... If the Eagles had Nasty Nate as their backup they probably would not have even made the playoffs.
"The most important position is QB. The second most important position is back up QB." -- HOF Joe Gibbs
As I recall, he looked really good in shorts last year too.
I do think it's a bit early to write off Peterman or even McCarron, as so many people already have. Either of them is capable of becoming a quality starter, and could potentially serve as trade bait going forward if they play decently this year (assuming Allen isn't ready to start). With that being said, a large majority of super bowl winning teams do not have a starting QB who is just a "quality starter". They have a QB that is good to excellent, i.e. the type of player that can consistently make the pro bowl
Allen is clearly the guy Bills fans should be rooting to win the job. His ceiling is much higher than either of the other two. He has the talent that could potentially result in us being a Super Bowl contender, if the kid can put it all together.
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Jim Schwartz was (and still is) a great coordinator. That doesn't necessarily translate into success as a head coach. Supposedly, when he was HC for the Lions, he had issues with player discipline.
Schwartz would have likely been a better and more successful HC then Rex (with Buffalo). With that being said, I'm happy with McD thus far and so the "what ifs?" don't really matter too much because at the moment it would appear as though we have a quality HC
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20 minutes ago, Drunken Pygmy Goat said:
JMO, but some of those years, the run D wasn't quite as bad as the rankings show, from an efficiency standpoint. Still not very good, but in some of those years, the Bills offenses were terrible, and they were often playing from behind. Opponents were spending much of 3rd quarters and most of 4th quarters running the ball and killing clock, adding to the Bills total rushing YPG on defense. Granted, it was up to the players to stop those runs, and they often didn't, but it had some effect on the overall rankings.
On the flip side, in a couple of those years, it appeared as if the Bills pass defense was very good, when looking at total passing YPG against (2008, 2009, 2010, 2012). But it was more of a reflection of opponents running the ball a lot, because the offense sucked, and opponents were killing clock, and because the run D wasn't very good.
Not trying to argue your point at all. Just saying that there is some correlation between offensive production (or lack there of) and defensive statistics/rankings, and that those rankings may be at least a little bit deceiving. But yeah, the run defense has been pretty bad overall. In 2014, they were pretty good, and especially good through the first 8 games. For a while, Opponents were averaging less than 3 YPC, tops in the league. Brandon Spikes was a big part of that, but of course he wasn't a 3 down Mike. That average worsened over the last half of the season, starting with Jamal Charles and the Chiefs.
Honestly, I think they have been that bad at stopping the run. Basically since Dick Jauron took over in the early 2000s, we have been pretty darn bad at stopping the run. Every season, it feels like there are one or two games where the other team literally doesn't pass the ball and literally just runs it down our throats (think Saints game or second patriots game from last year, the games vs. the dolphins in years past with Jay Ajayi, etc.)
IMO, the Bill's pass defense was good because we have a had a good secondary for a long time. We've been blessed with really good defensive backs, think about all the good ones that we've had over the past 10 or so years.
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2 hours ago, Soda Popinski said:
He'll be a star in Buffalo if our run defense improves. We know what it takes to do the dirty work and this fanbase loves guys who are underrated.
This. Our run defense has been horrendous for so long. Anyone that helps to improve it is going to get viewed favorably by the fanbase as a whole.
Yearly run defense ranks for the last 10 years (by rush yards/game):
2017: 29
2016: 29
2015: 16
2014: 11
2013: 27
2012: 31
2011: 28
2010: 32
2009: 31
2008: 22
I'm pretty sure that even before 2008, it was still really bad, so this trend goes back even further I think.
How can we be so bad at stopping the run year in and year out? Blows my mind. The one year that stands out is 2014, the one year we had Schwartz as the D coordinator. What an awful mistake it was to get rid of him
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36 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:
Why do people believe in Peterman? It’s an honest question? He was historically bad and was a 5th round pick for a reason. People hated Fitz, Orton, and Tyrod who were all decent and swear by Peterman. It is so strange. We are the only fan base in the world that prefers scrubs to decent. That is unique to Bills fans.
This is what happens after 3 years of Tyrod. Anyone that actually gets rid of the ball in a timely fashion is promoted to savior status
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Based on talent alone, you would have to pick the Browns. But the Browns are the Browns, which means the BIlls will probably end up winning more than them regardless of who plays for Cleveland
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the offensive line being worse is going to make a lot of those other position groups look worse on offense.
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1 minute ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:
The other expectations may differ eg. expectation to craft an obituary instantly in his off time
Oh for sure. Week in and week out though, I would expect his work load to be approximately the same
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32 minutes ago, BadLandsMeanie said:
I didn't even know NBC had a sports magazine or whatever.
My money says Pete is getting more money. A little less pressure for more money.
This was my take on it too. He said some stuff about giving other writers a chance (wherever he goes, he's going to prevent people from getting a shot) and some stuff about people dying earlier (he then went on to say that he is basically going to do the same thing for NBC, so I doubt it's really about lightening his work load ).
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First off, a majority of the time Peter King writes an interesting column. I enjoy reading it.
Secondly, his reason for leaving is "i have to make room for the next set of writes here at SI, i'm a 225 something pound gorilla that doesn't leave room for other writers!" (paraphrased)
a) there are young writers at NBC too, believe it or not. It's not some grand altruistic move on his behalf for the rest of the staff if he is screwing another set of set of young writers over at NBC once he moves. So don't try to sell it at this selfless act. Whatever his exact reason reason is for moving, it is not this.
b) calling yourself a 225 pound gorilla is weird. it's also pretty egotistical. even if it is true with regards to his column
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Whether or not I think he was the right choice is irrelevant. I am a fan now because he was drafted by the Bills. I root for all Bills players to succeed
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12 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:
I know, right?
" Highsmith did lots of traveling to prepare for the draft. “I was at an airport,” he said. “UCLA’s volleyball team was in front of me. You heard so much about Rosen. He’s this or that. We all know how people talk. “So I asked one of the volleyball coaches, ‘What’s Rosen like?’ He said, ‘Aaaaa, you should probably ask his girlfriend. She’s one of the players. She’s over there.’ “I’m like, ‘All right coach. That’s good enough.’ “I don’t know what all this means, but there was something about him that bothered me.”
Literally "something about him that bothered me". If this is the best effort of a high-level NFL FO scouting executive, the "right hand man" to the GM, I gotta say I'm kind of under-impressed here. Maybe it's a good thing for Green Bay that Dorsey "lured him away"
Nothing wrong with trusting your instincts on a player, IMO. He's only getting flak because he publicly admitted to it. If you're deciding who to draft with the number one pick, wouldn't you trust your instincts about possible draft picks? It's not always about just about the numbers
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4 hours ago, Mat68 said:
My favorite Qb of the batch was Allen. I did not know if Buffalo would see it that way but Im happy they did.
Karon johnson. Simply from the gauntlet drill video. Ive never seen a guy get domed in that drill from the first pass.
Allen, Edmunds, and Teller
Teller
Ray Ray, and Prohle will both have stiff competition for a roster spot. I think Ray Ray makes it as a returner so Prohle
Yes I do. i think he starts opening day
Overall, I am very pleased with the Bills draft. In my opinion they have a franchise Qb in Allen. My priority and hope was for Buffalo to leave the draft with a Qb and 3 down Linebaker. Imo the two positions that are not available in FA are Franchise QB and stud three down bakers. That is what they did. Edmubnds is a complete unicorn. 6-5 250 4.5 speed at the Mike is crazy. After the first Rd I was good. Still thought wr was a need, oline and interior D line was next on the docket. After Thursday night the ultimate cherry on top Friday night was Harrison Phillips. As much as they are trying to avoid it he is a Kyle Williams clone. 100 tackles at DT is crazy. He is the instantly the 3rd Dt. He can rotate with Williams and Star. I dont know enough about the remaining picks to make an overall intelligent case for any them, but from little info I gathered I like the secondary depth at corner and saftey. Teller looks like he could develop into a starting guard and maybe sooner rather than later. Ray Ray from clemson seems to be an immediate option at return. Last year watching Trubisky Prohle and Switzer seemed to always get open. He will be in one of the toughest battles. Going to the NE system I assume slot Wr will see an increase in priority with more underneath option routes. Seems Prohle, Reily, and Kerley will be in competition for 2 sports.
This has been the most pleased with a draft i have been in as long as I could remember. Hopefully, this is one of those draft from the 80 we look back on and are able to see how it shape the franchise for a decade. The roster is not without faults but seems to improved at key areas.
I really wish I had your confidence in Allen! He has it all-brains & the physical attributes. But it's not always about measurables.. here's hoping he can put it all together.
As for Philips, I did a double take when I read he had the most tackles on the team. A nose tackle leading the team in tackles? What?! Incredible. He even had like 8 sacks I believe. If he has half the success that he did at Stanford, he's going to be an excellent pick. The one knock i have against him though is that these penetrating interior D linemen seem to present issues for the run defense at times. Maybe pairing him up with someone like Star will allow Star to maintain the gaps/occupy blockers and Philips to be more aggressive in making plays in the backfield. Might be interesting to look back at how exactly Stanford got him to be so successful
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9 minutes ago, PearlHowardman said:
I don''t like the QB Josh Allen pick in the first round.
And my dislike for the QB Josh Allen pick in the first round is validated by the knee-jerk, insensitive, paranoid, pro Josh Allen posters on this board. You're all unhinged and for good reason.
Haha, I think you have a bone to pick my man. Take a deep breath and relax!
Which pick did you like the most? Tremaine Edmunds
Which pick did you like the least? Josh Allen, because I feel like it's too risky for a pick that high (really hoping he works out though! so much potential)
Which draft picks will start this year? Edmunds, Phillips
Which late pick (post third round) has the best chance to start this year? Wyatt Teller
Which pick won't make the team? Austin Proehl (rooting for him though!)
Will Josh Allen start at any point this upcoming season? Yes, I believe at some point they will give him a chance
Were you satisfied with the Bill's draft? Tentative yes, we gave up a lot of picks to move up for 7 and 16 (in what is considered to be a deep draft)
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Which pick did you like the most?
Which pick did you like the least?
Which draft picks will start this year?
Which late pick (post third round) has the best chance to start this year?
Which pick won't make the team?
Will Josh Allen start at any point this upcoming season?
Were you satisfied with the Bill's draft?
Bills' Preseason Week 1 Game Day vs. Carolina - 7 PM ET at New Era Field
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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I saw most of the fourth quarter and some of the third. A few takeaways on Allen:
Overall, it's hard not to be excited about his potential and the team's future with him at QB. It genuinely feels like he could be an AMAZING quarterback. We've all watched EJ, Trent, Fitz, Losman, etc. etc. This just feels different. I'm not 100% sold on him yet (it's just one game), but you can clearly see why they drafted him as high as they did
Finally one last thought on Foster: This will probably be an unpopular opinion. The guy had a bad game and there is clearly stuff to work on. I know a lot of people are down on him and calling for him to be cut. However, keep in mind that he was getting open and was in position to make some plays. That's half the battle right there: creating separation. If he can put his athletic ability together with some of the other stuff, I could see him being a real good receiver. He seems like an ideal practice squad candidate to me