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3 minutes ago, matter2003 said:
I'm not a fan of Bradford either...he checks the ball down far too often. Ball placement isn't going to help on 3rd and 10 when you throw a 3 yard pass very often. Bradford is also injured every other play it seems like. No thanks.
Yeah, he has great deep throw potential. Then we go and trade his only real deep threat. Deonte Thompson SHOULD be a deep threat as he is faster than Watkins in straight line speed but he almost never has any separation on deep throws which is baffling, even against middling CB's.
Tyrod will get us to 9, maybe 10 wins with enough pieces around him and a first round playoff exit. If the goal is to simply make the playoffs than we should keep him and build around him. That isn't and shouldn't be the goal. Keeping him would just hamstring our ability to be better than that and actually compete longterm for championships.
Take a look at Dak Prescott. Elliot’s not playing and all of a sudden he’s a mere mortal. They’re Oline is still the same Oline and he has a pretty good receivers. Up to the Cowboys recent struggles, i bet a ton of posters on this board would’ve given their left arm for a guy like Prescott. This week he was something like 20-29 for 170+ and two picks. If a QB doesn’t have a solid supporting cast, it can change the whole dynamic.
The Bills can get rid of Taylor but they still have to have the receivers and an Oline. They don’t magically improve with a change at QB.
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1 hour ago, baskingridgebillsfan said:
nothing they said is incorrect. The offense was terrible. The Bill step up in class this week and will get crushed . Luckily three winnable games remain.
Taylor has to go .
So why is there no talk about the garbage game Shady had yesterday? 49 yards on 22 carries?! Wow!! Barely 2.3 YPC. Does he shoulder some blame? Was that on Tyrod too? Or was that the fault of the Oline? We know they suck yet Taylor's the ultimate reason the Bills don't put up big numbers apparently. Does Rico get a pass as well? He's the guy that calls the plays? People are so obsessed with blaming Taylor, they can't objectively look at a game and point out the issues.
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9 minutes ago, Buffalo30 said:
Almost got picked off on that duck of a throw to Charles Clay.
I see how this works. If Peterman or any other QB in the league had thrown that pass, you would've lauded the QB's timing and guts to throw into a very tight window. But with Taylor, it was almost picked off and a duck to boot. Hahaha......some of you people are amazing!!!
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5 minutes ago, Buffalo30 said:
He doesn't make the big plays to put teams away. Instead, he lets teams stick around. Could have put the nail in the coffin on that throw to O'leary. He doesn't lose us the game but he also doesn't win us the game. Hence he's an average QB
Who else do you blame for making a lousy pass over the middle that could've put us in position to go up two scores? How about stop making excuses for Tyrod...he most certainly did not make most out of Dennison's playcalling. Almost got picked off on that duck of a throw to Charles Clay.
So now it's Taylor's fault for not putting teams away. If you truly feel Dennison called a solid game today, I don't know what else to tell you. That garbage series before the Chiefs' final drive epitomized Dennison IMO. He was calling plays like there was 30 seconds left in the game instead of 2-1/2 minutes. How about you go play action ONE time to catch those guys sleeping? And please don't talk about trust....that's a BS response. Like they really trusted Peterman so much that they let him throw five picks in one half?!?!
Dennison better get his stuff together for next week. If he's not on point, the Bills don't stand a chance.
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1 hour ago, SaviorPeterman said:
If the Chiefs slide continues we'll end up landing another good 1st round pick, probably around the middle of the 1st round if not much higher.
Wouldn't have thought that after they started 5-0 but just goes to show how things play out in this league over the course of a 16 game season.
I still believe in NP, but at least I admitted I was wrong last week (about him helping the team this year).
Sad thing is though is TT supporters are thumping their chests again as if he had anything to do with the Bills winning today.
Nobody's "thumping their chest".....the problem is, even in the face of a poorly called game by the OC and the SAME bad Oline, somehow Taylor didn't do enough and that he sucks....blah blah blah. All "people" are saying is that even with those obstacles to overcome, he played a solid game with no TO's. Like I said earlier, Taylor masks the Oline issues....the same issues that contributed to Peterman's horrible outing last week. So now they're good? No...it just means Taylor's able to slide in the pocket and avoid sacks which makes the Oline look better. Jeez, look at Shady's numbers today....49 yards on 22 carries....is he bad or is it most likely an Oline problem and predictable play calling? I choose the latter. See the point?
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11 minutes ago, Fadingpain said:
Taylor leaves points/big plays/opportunities to win on the field all the time, in every game he plays.
It's because he is wildly inconsistent and his accuracy isn't that good. He rarely puts it all together and sees the field well, throws to the correct guy, and throws an accurate ball.
When he puts it all together it's nice to see, and he does put it all together.Just not nearly often or consistently enough.
So I guess, with Taylor back, the Oline miraculously became good and Dennison's a great OC.
This fan base is so funny. Take for granted what they have and always yearning for THE guy that's gonna bring the team to the promised land....without overhauling the Oline and getting an OC who has a pair between his legs. Keep searching fellas.....that combo of Brady's savvy and Mike Vick's speed and quickness shouldn't be hard to find........
It's also funny how Shady get's a pass for his game today. 2.3 YPC? Cadet and McCoy combined for 78 yards on 28 carries. Less than pedestrian IMO.
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6 minutes ago, yungmack said:
One mediocre pass from TT is all you can focus on? Not the play calling? Not the right side of the line? Not the dropped passes? Just that one play? Sheesh.
That’s apparently the focus now that Taylor is playing again. Last week, when Peterman threw the five picks, people focused on how bad the Oline played, not on Peterman’s record tying outing. Now that we know the Oline sucks, and, that Dennison isn’t very good, the focus goes back to Taylor as being the weakest link in the offense. Leave it up to a whiny bunch of Buffalo fans to draw these types of conclusions.
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2 minutes ago, OldTimer1960 said:
Calls are dictated by the players - coaches didn't have confidence that Taylor would complete a pass, so chose to run 3x to force KC to burn TOs. High backfire probability, but I understand why they did what they did.
That’s straight up bull and everyone knows it.
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Dennison is so predictable it hurts. He’s calling plays as if there’s 30 seconds in the game. Oline is weak and Dennison is terrible yet Taylor is the number one problem?
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4 hours ago, xRUSHx said:
The little trade value Tyrod has should be at a complete zero by seasons end IMO. I will surprised if he finishes the season healthy.
Him sitting on the bench was pumping up his trade value now if he plays like he did the Saints game they won't even get a bag of donuts for him IMO.
Without question, you're in the minority.
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11 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said:
What I'd like to see from Tyrod and the coaching staff: this is an absolute must-win if you want to keep those dwindling playoff hopes alive. And for Tyrod personally, that means this is probably his last chance to show us that "Tyrod unleashed" we were promised.
Throw caution to the wind. A running Tyrod is good Tyrod. You'd have to be nuts to think that even with a sputtering offense the Chiefs will put up less than 28 points on us. That means you've got to score. Go for it. You're playing for free agency too.
Oh I agree on the running part. Stop with the five step drops....get Taylor out of the pocket....let him run the ball more which should open up the pass. I've never understood why Dennison insists on making him a pocket passer.
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9 minutes ago, PeterGriffin said:
Not sticking up for Petermans terrible performance but the coaching staff did absolutely nothing to help out a rookie QB in his first start against a superior pass rush and quality defense. As much as Peterman stunk I blame the coaches more. Peterman was put into a no win situation.
I would think the vast majority, if not all of the posters on this board agree. NP was not a world beater coming out of college so I, personally, wan't shocked he struggled so much.
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40 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said:
I agree with you there - TT wouldn't have fared any better given that the line can't block. But he might not have lost the lockerroom and again, I'm concerned about their overall player evaluation skills. How does Ducasse look against the live bullets?
Really? He's had to deal with the Oline all year long. It simply took a pocket passer with limited mobility to show how much Taylor had been covering up due to his ability to scramble. Kinda sad that it took Peterman getting killed to appreciate Taylor's ability to 1) escape pressure and 2) not turn the ball over very much.
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9 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:
Lost the team? Why don't they show some pride and actually do their jobs?
When you play team sports, you preach certain things. McD is famous for talking about playing the players that will give the team the best chance to win. When that mantra is drilled into the players' heads and then you pull what he just pulled, you lose the confidence of the team. Losing your players' confidence is a hard thing to overcome as a coach. It's not as if Peterman is close to being able to lead this team and Taylor isn't. When a player turns the ball over five times in a half, it's frustrating to the offense and the defense can't be happy defending short fields. I could go on and on but I won't. Suffice it to say, Taylor is a leader on the team and has the respect of his teammates. When said leader is being treated unfairly it makes sense that the other players will support their teammate.
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1 minute ago, Air it out Fitzy said:
Alright boys the chosen one is back under center and we can still reach 7 wins because Bills
bet time
over 130 yards passing and Bills win
under 130 yards and Bills lose.
Just remember, if you pick wrong you can't say anything bad about the qb if you pick wrong
As far as "saying anything bad", I won't condemn either QB other than to point out their mistakes. Despite the 5 INT game, I don't think anyone can be defined by one half of football. That situation is squarely on the coaches IMO. As a 5th round pick starting his first game, there's no shame for not being ready. He obviously needs to brought along at a more reasonable pace (ie. get in on mop up duty or when games are out of hand....maybe insert him into a game for a series or two in a competitive game).
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1 hour ago, Paulus said:
Idk, man. The way Tyrod was running around with his helmet on, it seems like he might have known what was up.
I mean, Peterman was not even finished dropping back when some of these guys were let in. Sure it happened to Tyrod, but not on every play.
I feel quite certain that the LAC Dline knew Peterman wasn’t gonna run so they just pinned their ears back. With Taylor, they can’t rush up the field as far.
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2 hours ago, ShadyBillsFan said:
I can only speak for myself
i always want the new guys to succeed and I will not throw them away after 1 game.
TT looked to be the answer in 15 (14 games) and then in 16 (14 or 15 games) we started to see a pattern
said pattern continued into 17
make him be a QB
Maybe we should’ve made the Oline be an Oline as well. Like it or not, the Oline is the most important unit on the offense. If your Oline stinks, chances are the offense will struggle.
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1 minute ago, JM2009 said:
Joel Jackson Retweeted Cover 1
Tyrod’s mobility was doing a lot to disguise deficiencies on the offensive line. Yet, he’s being ripped about for running too often
Exactly on point
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30 minutes ago, TheFunPolice said:
It's easy to say McDermott benched Tyrod because of the defense, but that makes no sense, which tells you it is not the reason.
Tyrod threw for around 50 yards for an entire game, at home, including a long section of "garbage time" where a QB can usually pad his stats. That's part of a pattern of barely having an NFL passing game under his tenure here.
Tyrod does some good things: his mobility and taking care of the football. Mobility is easily neutralized if a defense stays disciplined, as the Jets showed. Then it becomes a question of whether you can make the throws. He can't on a consistent basis. That is why he was benched.
As I said, I would have stayed with him, knowing the Chargers would tear him apart. Then, make the switch and hope for the best.
I don’t think Taylor is perfect nor do i think he’s the long term answer. But it’s very apparent that the offense is handicapped by the Oline. And it’s funny....it was obvious prior to the LAC game but it’s only become a real talking point since Peterman got crushed due to their inability to pass protect. Such a double standard for so many to say Peterman didn’t stand a chance because of the Oline yet Taylor’s tough outings (sans the NO game) were primarily because of Taylor.
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Like i said in another thread, in basketball terms, McD benched his point guard because his team can’t rebound.
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5 hours ago, bobm said:
Except playing tight is what TT appears to have been doing since he got here. At least to me anyway. I like Peterman and he looked good while completing his first three passes especially the laser to Kelvin, a pass Tyrod rarely if ever throws. The first int went off the hands of the fullback and returned for six. Another int was miscommunication when peterman threw long and the receiver cut out short. At least one and possibly two were caused when he was hit when throwing.
I'd put Peterman in again with a carefully scripted set of initial plays to help his confidence and see if he can be salvaged.
He didn't complete his first three passes.....he was 2-3 on the first two drives (to Buffalo receivers) and 2-2 and a TD to LAC DB's. And the "laser" to Benjamin wasn't anything overly tricky and I'd argue Taylor has thrown into tighter windows. And playing the woulda-coulda-shoulda on INT's is lame. Look at Taylor's 10 TD's and 3 INT's this year. Two of his INT's were catchable balls that got tipped and intercepted. Should we change his stats to 11 TD's (since Clay's shouldve been a TD) and 1 INT? Oh, and we're gonna leave Peterman blameless on the two INT's when he was being hit? Okay, I get it......the ol' double standard.
I'll give you Peterman's script for the next game......run out of the tunnel to the sideline.....go put your helmet on the bench somewhere where you know it will be.......go and get a spot near the sidelines, but not too close so you don't somehow throw another interception.
Having said all of the above, I don't blame Peterman one bit for this colossal failure. It's all McDoof. Heaven knows what he was thinking when he made the decision to give Peterman the start in the first place. It was painfully obvious the kid just isn't ready and won't be this year.....especially with this offensive line.
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16 minutes ago, Lfod said:
Coach should go to the Church of Tyrod and repent for his sins.
No need. Just taking his head out of his butt will be a great start.
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39 minutes ago, theRalph said:
Drought psychosis is reigning supreme. Everywhere. Except at One Bills Drive.
Yes, it was a disaster. But shut down your emotions for a moment and consider the facts:
1. Peterman went 3-3 before the first INT. Who among us, after the throw to Benjamin, did not shout “that’s the throw we’ve been looking for!!!”
2. Pat DiMarco should have his beard plucked out whisker by whisker for playing beach volleyball with a throw right on his hands. That 1st INT wrecked the day.
3. We didn’t expect it, but Peterman’s start revealed stark weaknesses on the offensive line. On 2 of the interceptions, he had pass rushers in his grill. And it certainly wasn’t because he was holding out of the ball too long.
4. So 3 of the 5 INTs weren’t exactly Peterman’s fault. The other two were his fault. Dak Prescott also had two very similar INTs 2 hours later, at home, vs. the Eagles.
For as much as fans go on and on about the drought, they really don’t give credence to the fact that the drought has tremendous negative energy. This may sound crazy but I believe Peterman’s start actually put a dent in that energy and that energy bit back.
When you arrive understanding, you won’t understand that it will be much more difficult for the bills to break the drought that it will for them to go on a run in the playoffs.
Peterman starts in Kansas City, Mark my words.
1. Peterman wasn't 3-3 on his first three passes. In the first two drives, he was 2-3 to Bills receivers and 2-2 to LAC DB's (with 1 TD I might add). As for the throw to Benjamin, I'd say the touch TD pass from Taylor to McCoy was far more difficult.
2. If you look closely, the sun was right in the receiver's face, and, the pass was definitely thrown harder than what it should've been. But yes, he should've caught it.
3. Ya think?! So it took Peterman getting killed to figure out the Oline stunk?! I guess, when Taylor was getting blasted in the Jets game, it was somehow Taylor's fault for taking the sacks. The double standard is alive and well in Buffalo. And if you're gonna play woulda-shoulda-coulda, two of Taylor's 3 INT's this year should've been caught which would give him a total of one for the year. In fact, the one to Clay should've given him one more TD for the year.
4. Are you really gonna go there? They weren't his fault? He threw them, bottom line. Again, the double standard is ridiculous. What's even more ridiculous is the fact McDoof is at the head of the club.
If Peterman starts in KC, McD is shortening his own leash. And if Peterman has another terrible game, he will get laughed out of a job. I can only wonder how much ridicule the Pegulas will be able to take. At this point, McD looks like a stubborn coach trying to justify what most consider a ridiculous decision by compounding it to make a point. Boy was I fooled by this guy.
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Just now, grb said:
Remember : Taylor's stats in the 15 games with both Watkins and Woods playing?
63.6% comp. 8.25 YPA. 27 TD passes. 6 INTsThat was with good, not elite talent. The offensive line played better than now, but still had problems with pass protection. Obviously there was an excellent running attack, as opposed to this year's off and on thing. But just think how many Taylor Memes don't stand up looking at those numbers :
- Needs an elite supporting cast? Nope
- Checkdown Charlie? Nope.
- Won't throw to receivers? He did when he had NFL quality targets.
- Afraid to throw downfield? Are peoples memories really that short?
- Not accurate / can't process at game speed / not a starting QB? The numbers suggest otherwise.
With only a little luck, Taylor will find himself on a team a little more talented and a lot less dysfunctional.
Don't be surprised if he then performs as per the numbers above.
BINGO!
But the problem is that too many Buffalo fans want to "just" draft a franchise QB who will solve everything. To heck with building a solid O-line. Let's not worry about having a decent WR corps......why? Because the "franchise" QB will raise this team on his shoulders and carry it to the Super Bowl. It's mind boggling how short-sighted some fans are with regards to how you build an offense.
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How do we pull the impossible and beat the Pats?
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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The only way this is gonna happen is if the Bills Mafia kidnaps Brady and get's Peterman to suit up in Brady's uniform.