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  1. I personally love the move for the reasons already posted in this thread. Stock piling picks for 2018 makes perfect sense. I'm a big Taylor fan but if he doesn't prove himself this year, the Bills are in prime position to make some moves on a better crop of QB's coming out next year....and, they'll still have enough picks to keep building this team.

  2. For some reason, the Bills were desperate to move-on from Sammy Watkins.

    There is no other explanation for getting so little in return. (A 2nd-Round Pick and below average starter...)

     

    I think the Eagles trade was a domino-effect from moving Watkins. The Bills could not enter the season with nothing at receiver.

    It just happens that the Darby/Matthews trade was actually a decent swap. The Bills make out pretty good on that one.

     

    Anyone that thinks this was just about money... Don't forget that Matthews is also a free agent next year.

     

    The risk of holding on to Sammy would have been directly tied to whether he could stay healthy. If he got injured this year and missed 3, 4 or even 8 games like last year, they wouldn't have been able to get anything for him.

  3. I don't hate the moves or love them, but in either case I don't see how there's any argument against it being a tank move. At this point you should just commit to it further.

     

    If Darby was a cap problem and they didn't pick up Watkins' option, how can this be considered a tank move? As I mentioned before, Sammy missed half the season last year and probably wasn't 100% for all 8 games he played in during '16. He was gonna leave after this year anyway so why not get some value. The Bills have two firsts and two seconds next year IIRC.....that's great to have in trying build a team.

  4. To be fair, a new HC tends to make some mistakes in his first season, and it's his second season when he really has his feet on the ground.

     

     

     

    It's all relative.......after all, McD is following a clown of a head coach. IMO, we can't do any worse at the HC position. Whatever mistakes McD makes, I'm sure he won't come close to matching Rex's follies.

  5. This^ Watson is never going to be intimidated. It's likely that this will make him look quite good at times. He also has the ability to make plays outside of the pocket. These are things that will never be questioned. Ultimately Watson's career is going to be determined by how well he throws the ball from the pocket with accuracy.

     

    The step from college to the pros is huge! Guys that come from blue blood college programs also have the benefit of simply having better football players all the way around. The talent gap in the NFL is not nearly as great as it is in college. While there are some bad teams in the NFL, overall, the talent in the NFL is the best of the best in college. My point being, he's going to need to be able to recognize so many defensive looks/coverages.....he won't be able to simply throw the ball in the direction of a Mike Williams (an elite receiver) and know that he'll take the ball away from what was a three star college DB.

     

    I do think Watson has the ability to become a solid starter in the NFL but it's gonna take a lot of game reps and a ton of film work and practice to get there.

  6. No, Ive never been a college athlete. But again, no one is making college athletes continue to stay in college or continue to be an athlete if doing one or both is too hard. I am not denying the fact it may be difficult, but its also not the only difficulty facing college students, and athletes arent the only ones who have full time jobs while attending college. Your statement that kids from good financial homes struggle in school is a little baseless, I dont doubt its true, but also not an outlier.

     

    I also dont feel like its up to College to prepare someone for life. You pay to learn, not for them to make you more mature. That should start with parents, and be coupled with the fact that by 18 or 19 years old you shouldnt be a complete child any longer. I dont disagree that the NCAA is a sham, but I am also not going to feel bad for student athletes who do profit from both being in college and also being an athlete.

     

    Also on your point about being made to go to college...no one, not a single person has ever been "made" to go to college. They could just as easily not go to college, which means they wouldnt be able to pursue the NFL. Kind of like how I couldnt pursue my job without going to college.

     

    Furthermore, can we please do away with the poor kid from the South makes it big stereotype like everyone who guys to Alabama to play football is some podunk idiot with superior physical talents like Shaq's character in Blue Chips? The one which Rosen seems to reference here. I dont have the stats, but athletes are groomed long before they enter college and passing, lineman and other camps arent cheap.

     

    Good post!!

     

    Of course, many of these schools can just follow UNC's lead and let the athletes take fictitious classes!! Seems to have worked for them considering the NCAA hasn't done squat yet.

  7. On that, we most certainly agree. I also felt he was the most ready to play of the bunch out of the gate (though I'd prefer not to if the situation allowed it). I think there were some plays that give you hope last night, and some plays he wishes he had back, but it's preseason and his first live action. Time will tell.

     

    I think Watson has a great chance to become a solid starter in the NFL. He's got great confidence and he's proven (in college) to be a real leader. And while he had some good moments last night, I also saw a guy that locked in on one receiver right from the snap and didn't go through his progressions. Going from college to the pros is a huge step. He's gonna make his share of mistakes along the way but if he can learn from them and progress, I do think he has a really good shot of doing something in the league.

  8. Okay He's really good at passing then ?

     

    Doesn't need to work on anticipation or decisiveness in his 7th year.

     

    Back to Watson please, apologies I'm a 757 guy too, I know you're pulling for him.

     

    Did I SAY he doesn't need to work on certain areas of his game? NO. But you made a direct statement saying that if Taylor could be decisive he could be like Watson....what a ridiculous statement. I merely showed you that even when a guy looks good in a PRE-SEASON game in his first year, the path to becoming a solid starter in the league is a long one.

  9. If TT can be quick and decisive like Watson he might be somebody.

     

    I'm basing my opinion off Watsons entire body of work.

     

    Wouldn't surprise me at all. That defense was giving the pats hell in the playoff game and they could have won if fuller/Brock O didn't disappoint.

     

    It's funny how you make such statements off of one pre-season game. Here's Taylor in his rookie year against the Redskins.....game winning, two minute drive with no timeouts.

     

  10. I think there's one thing the majority of this board will agree on......that this year's team, particularly the offense, is setup in Taylor's favor. If he doesn't take the next step (barring massive injuries to the starters), it's gonna be hard to convince anyone on this board he's the long term answer in Buffalo. I'm a supporter but I am yet to be convinced he's someone the Bills can build their team around.

     

    The coaching staff is exponentially better, Beane > Whaley, the culture of the team is light years better and the skill players are darn good (with Shady being elite). I'm hoping the RT spot will be better as well. I think the defense will be better and overall, I think the team will be more disciplined resulting in less penalties. I'm looking forward to the season.

  11. The defense tightened up when it mattered against Seattle, and the defense broke in Oakland after numerous consecutive three and outs and a INT on our own side of the field.

     

    Both games were there for TT to deliver, and he failed.

     

    Sorry you can't deal with that

    Like I've said before, Aaron Friggin Rodgers was 0-5 when his team's D gave 30 points or more. The only two QB's with a winning record (when their team's D gave up 30 or more) were Matt Ryan and Derek Carr. The other 10 playoff QB's failed miserably.

  12. Yep want to use the scoring offense as an argument. But ignores the scoring Defense which shows it was AVG.

     

    But you know it cant be because an AVG defense with this offense means playoffs. (Isnt that the argument?)

     

    The 12 playoff teams from last year were something like 5-23 when their respective teams gave up 30 or more points. Brady was 0-1 and Aaron Rodgers was 0-5....two of the best in the game and they couldn't overcome their defenses' inability to hold the opponent under 30 points.

  13. He is bad at doing some of the basic things but good at doing the extraordinary. Fun to watch sometimes, hair pulling frustrating other times, hard for a guy like him to consistently make plays and keep the team in the game against elite offenses. I don't see that changing unless the Bills morph into a top 5 D.

     

    How about if the D could simply improve on their scoring allowed stat (22nd last year) and their takeaways (23rd last year)? They gave up 30 points or more in six games. The Bills' O was 3rd in the league in giveaways and 10th in scoring. The Bills' D in 2014 was 4th in scoring defense and 6th in takeaways. Somewhere in the middle for the defense would benefit this team greatly.

     

    Let's face it, when Rex was hired he was gonna make the D into a "bully". You couple a real bully (the Bills' 2014 defense) with the 2015 and '16 offenses and the playoffs would likely have been the result.

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    Agreed that he's unlikely to become a franchise QB.

     

    If that's what happens, he will be yet another QB who never proved himself a franchise QB by the end of his sixth year and then never did later.

     

    But you're wrong, I don't hate the guy. He's obviously a very hard worker and a smart guy, and it would be by far the best thing for the Bills if he became a franchise QB. I'd love to see that. It's just that like you, I don't think it'll happen. If it was going to we'd have started to see it, and we haven't.

     

    Nobody has to believe what I say about six years, but history shows only one guy has ever not been a franchise QB by his sixth year and then later gone on to become one. Transplant wants to pretend that Tyrod is a deeply unique case and therefore an exception. He's not. There've been thousands of QBs who've played in the NFL, and his narrative, started off not playing for several seasons then got a chance to start for a significant period of time, is a reasonably common career arc.

     

    Discounting the middle of the road posters regarding Taylor, the difference between the posters who believe Taylor could turn the corner and become a franchise QB versus those who don't think he has any shot is simple.

     

    Most of the ones who don't think Taylor can make it won't/can't acknowledge that he does have positive qualities and that his positive accomplishments, for the most part, are not due to his skill. They down play how his scrambling ability as a total negative even though he's eluded quite a few sacks and can extend plays....and that he has ZERO to do with the success of the running game just to name a few.

     

    On the flip side, I would say the majority of those who believe Taylor has performed decently well thus far and has a shot at becoming a franchise QB feel Taylor does, in fact, have limitations to this point and that he hasn't proven himself as the long term answer in Buffalo (up to this point). Sure there are a few posters who may be a little ahead of themselves but again, the vast majority of those who support Taylor acknowledge his short comings and understand he earned this year but also has to take a big step this year to prove himself on the field (ie. generate wins).

     

    I've watched Taylor going back to his days at Hampton High School when he was forced to play as a freshman (on the varsity) when the starter got injured.....to his initial days at Virginia Tech when he wasn't afforded a red shirt year because he was the best option and could handle the pressure. He has evolved, over those years, a great deal. What hasn't changed is his work ethic and dedication to his team. He was raised the right way and has never taken anything for granted. And while he'll ultimately be judged by the wins he helps put on the board (which is totally fair and part of the business), for the life of me, I don't understand some of the blatant disdain for such a respectful young man that takes place on this board.

  15. But the CoT says he already does.

     

    I'm so confused

     

    See, this is why nobody takes you seriously. Most of those who support Taylor understand he needs to step up in certain areas....throwing with anticipation is one of them. There are other areas as well.

     

    You, on the other hand, spew how bad Taylor is and don't stop to give him credit for the things he does do well.....ie. he has NOTHING to do with the running game.....that he NEVER throws over the middle.....that his low turnovers is only because coaches don't trust him.

     

    An honest observer would have the ability to note his limitations (to this point) as well as the things he does do well. You call yourself a realist but that's simply not true. You don't like Taylor and you'll find any reason to spin his positives as the result of somebody/something other than Taylor doing a good job.

     

    One thing I will compliment you on Crusher is your ability to take pathetic to a new level!! Well done sir, well done!

  16. I'd love to know how you came to this conclusion.

    In 2012 he averaged 194.9 YPG on 24.6 Attempts per game. His play was accompanied by the #2 DVOA Defense, and the #1 DVOA Rush Offense

    In 2013 he averaged 209.8 YPG on 25.4 Attempts per game. His play was accompanied by the #1 DVOA Defense, and the #7 DVOA Rush Offense

    In 2014 he averaged 217.2 YPG on 28.3 Attempts per game. His play was accompanied by the #1 DVOA Defense, and the #1 DVOA Rush Offense

     

    In our case:

    In 2015 TT averaged 216.8 YPG on 27.1 Attempts per game. His play was accompanied by the #24 DVOA Defense, and the #2 DVOA Rush Offense

    In 2016 TT averaged 201.5 YPG on 29.1 Attempts per game. His play was accompanied by the #26 DVOA Defense, and the #1 DVOA Rush Offense

     

    There's no place in this thread for facts....you ought to know that!!

  17. Wish we could go back to the good ole days when all pharma commercials were banned from TV. Not only are they so annoying, every one of them, but they are a direct contributor to the over medicated culture we now live in. Not to mention the opioid epidemic.

     

    Amen! Drugs are now the substitute for poor parenting. If a kid isn't behaving, it's because he needs to be on medication.....yea, right.

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