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  1. 1 minute ago, DCOrange said:

     

    Ivory graded out as the #78 pass blocker in the league at the RB position this past season on top of being one of the worst runners.

    He finished 5th in 2015

     

    He did play for the most predictable OC in football though.

  2. Just now, KelsaysLunchbox said:

    Well, no matter who they draft they have to tailor the offense to their skillset somewhat anyhow. This is something I've read (but admitting I don't have first hand knowledge of) that Daboll does really well. If a shorter guy needs more snaps out of shotgun, so be it. I believe McCoy ran better out of shotgun anyways.

     

     

     

    Honestly I'm with you on that, I was just saying that perhaps Beane prefers a more standard prototypical pocket passer this time around.  I don't have too much of a problem with Mayfield, especially with guys like Brees and Wilson in the league who are doing well even though they are shorter.  The comment on mobile was more towards a Lamar Jackson type guy.  Guys like Darnold and Rosen are your more prototypical guys, but I like Rosen better than Darnold beause I think he is more NFL ready, which is why he is my QB prospect of choice.

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  3. 7 minutes ago, BuffaloRebound said:

    If you're gonna give up a 2nd and possibly more for Foles on a 1 year deal, might as well go all in and trade up for a Rosen, Darnold, or Mayfield.  

     

    I agree.  Just as much risk of busting (has busted before) and not as much time under team control.  IMO Foles was a product of having a great supporting cast this season.  That being said I could be wrong about him.  I'm just not confident enough to give up what the eagles seem to want for him.

  4. 2 minutes ago, KelsaysLunchbox said:

    "Dealing with" Newton got them to a Super Bowl. 

     

    In what way is Mayfield not a "traditional" passer? His height? Or did you mean Jackson? Not trolling just trying to see your point a bit better.

     

    By "Dealing with Newton" I meant tailoring an offence around a mobile guy.  By dealing with Taylor I meant dealing with a guy that doesn't have that prototypical NFL size (and also likes to scramble).  Both are the types that you need to tailor your offense around their needs.  A smaller guy may need to roll out of the pocket or take more snaps out of shotgun.  I'm not saying that he can't succeed, I'm just saying that it is a much harder task for a guy of his size.

  5. 32 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said:

     

    People here have been doing this ever since Beane got here as an argument for the next QB we draft.

     

    Beane may have said that nearly a year ago, but people change their minds.  Or better yet, I don't think he said or meant that he would only exclusively consider a pocket QB.

     

    He may take a guy that can scramble if he needs to, but I think he primarily wants a pocket guy.  Wheels are great but only if you know when to use them.

  6. 2 minutes ago, KelsaysLunchbox said:

    My top choice is Rosen. But to be more specific:

     

    If we trade up: Rosen

    If we stand at 21: Jackson

    If we go non first round: White

     

    Who I think Buffalo is targeting: Baker Mayfield. We've heard rumors they like Darnold, Rosen, Jackson is #2 on their board, Allen will be a visit...wonder why we hear nothing on one specific "top prospect". Close to the vest...

     

    I could see them passing on Mayfield because they want a more traditional style quarterback after first dealing with Newton in Carolina then Taylor in Buffalo.

  7. 2 minutes ago, Yav said:

    The Browns can get a QB in FA (Cousins or AJ), draft the RB out of Penn State, not have to give up any of their draft picks and they can work the rest of the draft filling their roster out with good defensive players and they could be pretty good next year. 

     

    But they ARE the browns and IMO are more likely then not to find a way to screw this up.

  8. 1 minute ago, billsfan11 said:

    How many times have the browns passed on QBs only to take the 3rd or 4th best QB in the draft.

     

    I get this is a bit different cause the QBs are more highly rated this draft, but the point remains the same.

     

    Dont get cute with it. Just pick whoever they think the best QB is.

     

    RB is a much easier position to fill and like I said if the browns give the giants a good deal at 2, they will have their top QB and Barkley.

     

    Gettleman already said he’s open to trade the spot if the offer is right, and the browns are only 2 spots down from them with tons of low to mid round picks 

     

    I could see the Giants trading back multiple times if this were the case.  If there is a team that has an opportunity to re-tool and do it quick, it is the Giants in this draft.  They can afford to get a QB that will need to sit a year before starting, and really need a quick influx of inexpensive talent.  If they can get 2-3 1sts from buffalo AND whatever they get from the browns to move back to 4 I can't see them saying no.  Especially since the Colts are pretty much going to stay where they are, as they won't likely be that high in the draft again assuming Luck comes back from the injury on schedule.

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  9. 1 minute ago, Alphadawg7 said:

    Im glad to see the board has come around in the majority to what I have been saying since early in the CFB season...go get BAKER MAYFIELD.  

     

    I will say Allen was impressive at his combine, but combine heroes don't impress me more than their tape does when there are helmets flying at them instead of dudes in shorts and t-shirts.  But I will give him credit where credit is due, he certainly helped himself a lot I think.

     

    I really think Baker will be the best QB in this draft when all is said and done.  The NFL QB he gets most often compared to is Drew Brees, but to me thats a lazy comparison simply because of the height similarities.  As a player on the field, he reminds me most of Steve Young.  Im not talking about his trash talking bravado (that reminds me more of Kobe with how is a killer on the field), but his play style.  This is a guy who can beat you in the pocket and outside the pocket.  People forget the wheels that Young used to have, he was a pocket QB first but if need be can make you pay on the ground.  

     

    I am not worried about his attitude, in fact, I think this team needs someone with his kind of fire to feed off of.  I am also not worried about his height as he is taller than both Wilson and Brees, and barely over an inch shorter than Aaron Rogers, so he is right there with 3 of the best QB's in the NFL height wise.  

     

    Honestly, Allen gives me EJ flashbacks in a really bad way.  Mayfield is a very good prospect, but I think Rosen is the guy that will be the better QB long term.  Pocket passers tend to stick around longer in the NFL then the more mobile guys like Mayfield.  If I'm choosing between Mayfield, Rosen, and Allen, I take Rosen 100% of the time.

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