DJB
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I’d bet my life savings we aren’t taking Coleman or at least I darn well hope we aren’t .
He doesn’t seem to fit what we should be looking for or what we need
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This is ridiculous. We sacrificed fans into the pit
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I can’t shake the feeling that Adonai Mitchell is a Bill…
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2 hours ago, NewEra said:
Until Thomas goes top 20 and the chiefs jump us for Franklin. He seems like a guy they would be targeting as well and it’s pretty obvious that he fits what we’re looking for as well. If we don’t move up, my money is on us NOT landing Franklin. I hope I’m wrong.
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46 minutes ago, DCOrange said:
I don't really agree with the Coleman/Gabe comparison personally. I never felt that boxing out and high pointing the ball were strengths of Davis'. He just did a good job attacking the seams in the defense and Allen would lead him away from the coverage. I also don't think pure speed is really necessary to be a field stretcher which is why guys like Coleman and Mitchell are two of the better vertical threats in the draft. Coleman is good at stacking his man and once he's done that, he'll be at a distinct advantage down the field unless you give him safety help. And crucially in comparison to Gabe, he should be much more of a threat in the short/intermediate game as well due to his frame and body control. And while Coleman is not the best route runner, Gabe basically couldn't run routes outside of the vertical stuff; watching him try to run a simple curl route was depressing.
At any rate, separation would be preferred but I think we simply need guys that we're confident can win on the outside, particularly while dealing with press coverage, which is why I've landed on Thomas, Franklin, and Coleman as the three that I would target (assuming no massive trade up). Thomas is a master against press coverage and has enough speed to pull away from DBs. I'm confident he'll demand safety help on the outside. Franklin isn't as dominant against press coverage or as dynamic a deep threat, but he has some real shake to his releases/routes that should allow him to get separation on slants, curls, etc. while still being a threat vertically. Coleman doesn't really create separation super well, but there's flashes of it when he's able to lean into the DB with his strength and then make his cut and his ability to box out and high point the ball allows him to separate at the catching point rather than in the route itself.
For me, I'd prefer Thomas or Franklin, but Coleman has separated himself as the #3 realistic target at 28.
I think if we're purely focused on quick separators against man coverage, you may have to be more open to the idea of getting someone that can win in the slot quicker than Shakir does. That hasn't been Shakir's game to this point in his career and the slot is probably the easiest place to get quick separation against man coverage.
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1 hour ago, HappyDays said:
I like Coleman because he fits what the Bills need. We need a WR that can win against man coverage outside.
Defenses ran man against us more than any other team because they knew they could get away with it against our WRs. As a result we were forced to throw passes to our TEs and RBs against man almost half the time, which is not a recipe for explosive offense.
Insert Keon Coleman... He has traits to physically dominate man coverage. I get that he isn't a great separator, but being able to physically box out his man and win at the catch point can be equally valuable. Also he could be an elite red zone target.
Positional value, physical upside, adds traits that we don't already have. That's what I'm looking for. For me it is Franklin and Coleman as the only two realistically available players that check all those boxes.
We just dealt with this with Gabe. A large box out type WR that struggles to separate
We don’t need that and i want nothing to do with Coleman as a result
We need an elite separation type guy and someone to threaten with deep speed. It will open up the middle of the field so much for Josh.
Last year our O was compressed, the D could shrink the field and safeties never really had to worry about being beat deep.
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I’ll keep saying it A Mitchell is not getting enough talk around here.
One of the best route runners in the class, great separation and gets up to speed in his cuts really quickly.
Definately curious in his 40 and his height
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This tells me that Josh doesn’t have a weak mental capacity when the game is on the line like some have suggested.
And that he is performing with little around him on offense and that McD and the D is truly responsible for the losses
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Ralph is cheap
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32 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:
I don't think Josh in the Shanny scheme is the slam dunk everyone thinks. He hates ad libbing and Josh loves playing out of structure.
No QB can ever play with structure 100% of the time. Josh usually onlyad libs whenever the line breaks down. We saw Purdy do it on Sunday
We all know your distain for Shanny but you are grasping at straws here .
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1 minute ago, GunnerBill said:
I didn't say that.
If you have Josh Allen you don't have all the pieces.
We currently have a solid oline and still arguably a top 10 WR in Diggs. Kincaid likely takes a step and hopefully Cooks does as well. Add in potentially a first round WR and yeah we have tons of offensive pieces for Shanny to use .Allen would be cheat code in his system.
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8 hours ago, GunnerBill said:
Of course I realise that. Our problem is largely we can't get past Mahomes. Kyle Shanahan has the same problem just two rounds later.
Look at his QB man .
Allen would be unfair in the Shanny system
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My feelings are the same as they’ve always been on Cook.
Hes a very solid RB2 but he’s not a 3 down back who puts fear into defenders. I think he’s a product of this offense more so than a rare talent
I want an elite guy to help Josh
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6 hours ago, TheBeaneBandit said:
I would even potentially move up 6 to 8 spots to secure Thomas. I think he's the perfect match for Allen's style.
Yeah we may need to jump the Bengals depending on what they do with Boyd or Higgins.
That’s as far as I envision Beane moving up realistically
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Franklin or Brian Thomas are the two guys in our range I like the most .
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hoping for one of them
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52 minutes ago, Dr. Who said:
I would love to get him, but the cost would be prohibitive, and you have to find a team willing to trade down from a top ten pick.
Agreed. Hes my guy and I can see him going top 5This is as similar to a Julio / AJ Green type situation. Two elite WR’s just depends on what flavour you’d like
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Nabers is still my WR1 . I know it’s controversial but he’s explosive and a difference maker on all levels
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We are going to remain in Nickel. For the first time in a long time we actually have some terrific depth at LB.
I don’t think we will change fundamentally how we play D but I could see from time to time the occasional three LB in the game likely in obvious short yardage run plays
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The awards are dumb. Worst MVP I’ve seen and Demar literally dies on the field and doesn’t win comeback player
Insane
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42 minutes ago, BarleyNY said:
Thanks. I’ll do that. How’s his separation?
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27 minutes ago, BarleyNY said:
Thanks. I’ll do that. How’s his separation?
One of the best in the class in my opinion. His stop start ability is top notch.
An interesting format to evaluate the Bills foundation
in The Stadium Wall
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He needs to take a big step next year . An Oliver sized step forward