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1 hour ago, JayBaller10 said:
Wouldn’t say Edmunds is trash, but so far in his career he hasn’t proven to be an impact player, someone who must be accounted for. And I’m not sure he’ll ever develop those instincts and playmaking ability, but he is young.
I'll admit to being a big Edmunds doubter.
When I re-watch games, I just watch him on D and I swear to god it's the most frustrating thing. I KNOW that I don't understand the assignments. I've watched a few film sessions and had it explained to me that he was actually doing the right thing. But it seems he almost plays 1/2 hearted. No intensity, and usually only entering a play once it's already been made. As you said, No Impact.
That said, he was on GMFB and in that interview, he talked about his family training in the offseason. What he described made it seem that football season is almost a break from his Mom's training routine. They are a family of athletes that push each other HARD!
I've started to see him during games now, instead of having to look for him on the replay. It seems like he's on an upward trajectory and without a doubt, he will get better. How much better is a legit question, but with a family structure with that much focus, I'm willing to wait a bit more and see.
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Beas still looks a little hesitant and careful. Like he’s testing things out.
Hopefully he’s getting “his legs under him” and just needs to knock off some rust.
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10 minutes ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said:
I could care less, everyone knows that he is just a good HC without Brady. He will keep losing without Brady and his status as a elite HC will drop like the Titanic.
I hate them both.
But what gets me when people talk about the Brady/BB split is that it’s not like they walked away equal partners on equal footing.
Brady stepped out of a custom vehicle that was built specifically to his every preference and into a Supercar. Maybe it’s not as custom as the one he had, but it’s an amazing vehicle.
BB walked away with a custom vehicle built to the last drivers preferences. Now he has to find a new driver that is close enough to drive the custom vehicle down the road, until he can find a decent enough long term driver to start customizing the car to his specs.
Can’t compare who made who just yet.
Did I mention that I hate them both...
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4 hours ago, Thurman#1 said:
It's not that the Fish wouldn't have been demoralized. It just would have happened a week later. Hell, we might have beaten them with our backups last week.
Losing with our backups - again, if that had happened because it's no sure thing - would not have taken an ounce away from their swagger. When you look back at teams that did take out starters the last week and lost, you do find some who lost, of course. Some teams lose no matter which way they play it. But what you don't see is teams losing swagger. Losing a game with your backups doesn't change the feelings of any team. Everyone knows why they lost in that situation.
Look at the Pats the year they rested Tom Brady with just a few snaps in Week 17. in 2014 and lost 17 - 9 against the Bills. Did they lose their swagger because they were only a 12-win team instead of 13? Please. The idea's ridiculous. Instead they went out and brought home a Lombardi trophy.
Did the Ravens lose their confidence and morale when they sat Flacco after he went 4 for 8, and most of their best players played little or not at all in Week 17 of 2012, losing to Cincy? Hell, no, they went out and won a Super Bowl. You don't lose your morale from that.
No Bills would think, "Sure, we sat Diggs, Allen, Hughes, Tre White, Milano, Edmunds and Hyde, and Beasley's out this week, and even more in the second half, but ... we lost to MIami ... gosh, I wonder if we're just not as good as we had thought? Wouldn't make sense to think so.
Morale is indeed a huge factor. But losing a game with the backups doesn't seriously affect morale.
First, I will concede that because of how this played out, it's easier for me to look back and say that playing them was the right choice. I will also concede that not all examples will have the same result so I don't consider your position to be wrong even in this instance.
Now concerning the bolded I disagree. The Bills walked away from that game with a TON more momentum and swagger than they would've if they rested their starters, potentially losing the game (of course with the way our backups played, we may still have crushed them!). We historically dismantled the #1 scoring Defense in a way never done before. We are the hottest team entering the playoffs and the Team now knows that there is no defense that can stop them. That has value.
That feeling of invincibility is hard earned and IMO it would not have been as prominent if the blowout didn't happen. Look at the ferocity our 2nd's played with. It was that supreme confidence that allowed them to "play up" to their competition. They weren't intimidated, they intimidated. That is 100% morale. The 2nds performing so well is an example of the old saying, "If you don't think you can do it, you will always be right". They obviously "knew that they could".
I guess the part I can't get on board with you on is that they didn't LOSE swagger. While technically true, The Bills would've lost the opportunity to GAIN swagger and momentum. I contend, that for THIS Bills team, we can use all the swagger and momentum we can grab.
In the examples you provided, while relevant, don't paint the same picture as our current situation:
Pats '14, They were ALREADY a multi-Superbowl winning franchise with a consensus All-Pro QB playing a craptastic, non-threatening Bills team. Put another way, the Mia game would not have been as important if Mia was having a similar season as the Jets. The Pats beating the Bills didn't prove anything. STOMPING a 10 win, #1 scoring D team looking to get into the post season is just a different animal IMO. The Pats already had swagger/confidence because they already won the big game. If we were in that position (Like the Chiefs this year) we'd probably approach the Mia game differently.
Ravens '12, I mean, as I conceded, not all examples will support my side as I believe there is no 100% correct decision in 100% of scenarios. Sitting their guys was obviously the right choice for them at the time. I will say that winning their game, much like the Pats example, wasn't against such a high quality opponent. They're winning that game had zero potential to gain momentum or swagger and I contend that the Mia game did.
So I suppose my position is that they had a solid opportunity to GAIN momentum/swagger entering what they hope is the first winning post season in decades. I don't FEEL (very subjective) that your examples would have provided the teams involved with the same potential.
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3 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said:
For the Colts to win on Sunday they'll need to play better than they did against the Jags. Surprisingly, for a team faced with a win and in scenario they struggled to the end to beat that team playing for nothing to finish out the season.
Honestly I HOPE they show up ready to play Sunday...by then, we'd already have won!
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On 1/3/2021 at 12:57 PM, Warcodered said:
Quite literally the best possible outcome for the team after he tested positive yesterday.
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1 minute ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:
Well, there's some information. Garrett has publically acknowledged he is still battling effects on his lungs where he breaks into coughing fits or feels like he's choking when he tries to grab some deep breaths. Tommy Sweeney presumably authorized the Bills to disclose he has cardiomyopathy. Denver DE Shelby Harris spent 29 days on the covid-19 reserve list and has spoken out that while the initial virus wasn't that bad, he had after effects that lingered: "“It was really more the after-effects that kind of got to me — just like weird nerve pains and stuff that was unexplainable. I’m telling you that stuff was just crazy. I’m just happy to be back and happy to be healthy — like, really, truly happy to be healthy.”
If you want to look up the demographics (age related) probability of death, that information is widely available, so I'm not sure where you're trying to go with that. Ditto what effects may be permanent and how frequent they are overall. Both are beyond the scope of NFL-related discussion. Please see @SDS pinned post.
In general, it needs to be remembered that outside of required injury reports, football players have the same right to personal medical privacy for themselves and their families as anyone else; whatever symptoms they have that keep them on the covid-19 list for a month or that still affect them after they're activated, should be their choice to disclose or not beyond what the league requires, just as with the details of any other injury beyond "shoulder" "knee" "ankle" "illness".
I've regularly seen good wishes for the health of those infected and their families, but feel free to add yours.
Finally some information past "now on Covid list". I hope those last two recover soon!
I found it very interesting that the topic of conversation was more about game impacts than the actual health of the players who have contracted a deadly virus.
Not sure what you're hinting at here. This is where we discuss Covid infections, I wanted to know more than "he got it" and was surprised to not see more follow-up in this thread.
A normal question for a fan of football concerned about the health of players!
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5 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said:
Roh ruh, Beasley is obviously out for the playoffs because we just signed the poor man's Cole Beasley:
Wait did the guy say he was the "Whitest" wide receiver????
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We've seen all these posts about infections but ZERO follow up on how they are doing, if they survived, if anyone in their family has had any serious medical issues due to the infection or if any of them have sustained permanent lung damage as we all know is a very common consequence.
This is a DEADLY virus but for some reason, no one seems to be worried about the health of those infected!
What's up with that??
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2 minutes ago, Thurman#1 said:
Even if we'd have lost yesterday because of sitting our guys, I'd have absolutely loved the chance to play Miami. We should beat Indy, but Miami would have been a much easier
I hear you. It's an interesting argument, but I don't think the Steelers are saying to themselves, "Gosh, the Browns beat us just last week. Sure, we weren't playing Roethlisberger or many of our other best guys, but I don't have much confidence we can beat the Browns because of what happened the other day." And I don't think the Browns feel any better about beating the Steelers next week because of what happened last week.
Do you?
In hindsight, playing the fins in the playoffs would’ve been sweet, but for that to happen, yesterday would not have happened. Instead of all this glowing warm happy feelings, we’d be thinking that next week, despite losing, we’re going to get back at them. They would be walking proud and with a little more confidence. No broken Tua. No demoralized Fish.
This feeling of invincibility and inevitability watching them with a “come at me bro” swagger would not be here. Wins are more important than rest IMO.
Concerning the Browns/Steelers, the scenario is different and the teams are in different places. IMO, the Browns/Steelers have a different relationship than we have with the Fish. Browns still have to prove they are better than the Steelers.
That said, I think the Steelers may regret letting the Browns into the playoffs. And I think the Browns are going into the game with a little more confidence. Ben’s arm is shot and the Browns know it. If solely looking at the teams, the Browns have momentum and the Steelers are sputtering out and I think their last game only added to it. I know I may be projecting but moral is a HUGE factor that decides more games than most acknowledge IMO.
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We keep talking up the reason to rest vs play from the Bills POV.
How about from the fins perspective. They beat a super hot Bills team as they earn their way into the playoffs.
That kind of win can set them up to make a run in the playoffs.
Also, as mentioned, if they beat us and the chips fall the right way, we could play them the very next week.
Do you think it’d have any psychological impact on either team knowing just the week before that they won/we lost? It will give them a little confidence and who knows what happens in the playoffs.
What I’m saying is that resting starters has more impact than potential rust.
Resting starters always hit me the same way as prevent defense.
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19 hours ago, Albany,n.y. said:
I'm hoping that Malik Boyd & Lake Dawson both get GM jobs & we're swimming in 3rd round comp picks. Then the Bills should replace them with the brightest young minority candidates and keep developing those young executives and getting draft choices.
The only thing I don't understand is why the team that hires the new GM doesn't get rewarded as well. Instead of two 3rd round comp picks to the team that developed him, they should make it one for the developing team & 1 for the hiring team.
It’s a good point. Why would anyone hire a non-minority for any job below and including OC/DC?
You can hire a non-minority, but he better be better than all other applicants AND potentially (2) 3rd round picks if he was to succeed. I mean why hire/develop young non-minority personnel when doing so brings no benefit to the organization?
Look, as mentioned before, the pool of individuals who can PLAY in the NFL is completely different than the pool of people who can COACH in the NFL. Just because the pool of players is racially imbalanced, it doesn’t mean that all aspects it touches also has to have the same racial imbalance.
I think the idea came from the right place, but the execution is trash. If the real goal is to break up the good ‘ol boys club, this is not the right way to do it and to be honest, probably won’t work. Leaving the perceived good ‘ol boys club safe and intact (seriously how many sons of previous coaches are in the NFL?)
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Of course this is completely tongue in cheek. It was obviously a terrible year so it was a bit of gallows humor (Vet, my bad).
Looking back on a terrible disaster of a situation that somehow through the grace of god you miraculously survived and saying defiantly, “Was it really THAT bad?” as you limp away is just how I roll haha
But both for the Bills and 2021, things are coming out of the darkest of days and things are looking at least dimly brighter. Of course for the Bills it’s anything but dim!
So, even if the post season doesn’t go the way we want, at this time in 2020, with the last game of the year played, I feel great optimism for my team. This has been a LONG awaited year and it tastes so sweet.
So fully tongue in cheek... I mean REALLY it wasn’t all THAT bad right??
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Evidence:
AFCE Champs
Sweep Pats (and seems to have broken them 😈)
Jets Implosion
Fish impending QB purgatory
Has there been a better and more promising year than 2020 for the Bills this millennia??
I mean was 2020 really THAT BAD??
LETS GO BUFFALO!!
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3 hours ago, HalftimeAdjustment said:
Yes. It is a team game and you cannot win consistently with a great QB while most of other 21 starters are bad or lazy. Also, if your coach is not good that is a huge disadvantage. However... it is much easier for them to turn it around and improve with the QB spot settled.
I guess that's why this situation is so curious. In order for a QB to have good numbers, his WRs have to catch balls. So usually they would also be "good".
Thinking about it a second, it seems more like a Defensive problem than anything else. If the QB is doing so well, points are being scored.
That could explain why JJ was so upset. It's his side of the ball that's wasting Watson's talent IMO.
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21 hours ago, chris heff said:
And haven’t you heard? This game is just an audition, Josh Allen will be a Patriot next year.
https://patriotswire.usatoday.com/2020/12/24/gimmie-him-josh-allen-would-set-up-patriots-for-future/
You know I was just thinking. If you could add a superstar from another team to your weakest position group, I think it would benefit the team.
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14 hours ago, Rubes said:
That's so cool! You can't help but love this team.
Then there's this follow-up...
Is that true? Or is it just a troll?
This Ladies and Gentlemen is a person who would always find a problem or something to complain about, no matter how good/positive the event.
Listen kids, Don’t be an Andy Dickh@rd (sp?)
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9 minutes ago, ndirish1978 said:
Mahomes has lost a total of 9 games as a starter and you're expecting him to lose 2 in a row. You can pretty much close this thread.
I don’t know the OP but I happen to know that he does not expect him to lose 2 in a row. -
Unlike other young and promising QBs like Lamar, Mahomes, Murray, Wilson, Watson and Dak, Josh doesn’t seem to have what it takes to be a spokesperson for a product. Weird.
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5 minutes ago, JoPoy88 said:
Fantasyland. Daboll isn’t turning down an NFL head coaching job for more money, not under this head coach. Keep dreaming though.It’d may be a different story if he was serving under an old head coach, headed for retirement and Daboll was given insurances (as well as a raise) that he’d be guaranteed the job. But McD is a young coach, who just signed an extension. No way no how Daboll sticks around if he’s offered a HC job. Silly to even entertain the thought.
Can’t disagree that convincing him to stay would be a tough sell. I just think that when you spend this much time developing / growing something like we now have at the Bills, it’s tough to walk away right before you arrive.
But I may just be wishing lol
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7 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:
The thing is Justin Herbert, Deshaun Watson and Trevor Lawrence are potential options on the job market. If he is offered one of those 3 jobs it is hard to turn down.
Good point. Not too often you have this many teams with young talented QBs, have HC openings.
Absolutely a big factor here. Hopefully the relationships and winning trump draw of a HC job.
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I think if we “back up the brinks truck” for him to show that we acknowledge his skills/talent it could blunt the draw of a HC position.
I have also heard that him and JA are like BFFs and that has to count for something.
I think being a part of a potentially historic team is better than a potential HC position where we can potentially fall on his face when he doesn’t have a transcendent QB.
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If a coach’s decision results in a -.75 win, who gets the win?
Shouldn’t it all equal zero at the end with an average coach losing 0 as a result of his decisions, the lowest at -.75 and best at +.75?
I think what’s throwing everyone off is that average of -.75. That would mean something like the worst coaches -1.25 and the best winning coaches around +3 or +5 (don’t math back at me. All off the top of my head to give an estimated example).
Something lopsided like that would have to be true for the -.75 to be the average.
What I can say is that coaching has a TON to do with how a team performs. I always thought that it wasn’t the talent keeping us back/average for so long. It was the cheap coaches.
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22 minutes ago, RyanC883 said:
I'd be hesitant to play him. We did that before and he reaggravated the injury. I'd role with Davis who seems to improve weekly, with Brown activated but not playing.
I thought the ankle injury was different from his previous one.I recall seeing the play in real time and thinking, well we just lost Brown for the season (actually very surprised he's able to come back based on what it looked like). I guess what I'm saying is that bringing him back "early" last time was irrelevant to his current injury and should be viewed as a stand alone injury, not a re-injury which implies "injury prone" or at least more susceptible to injury.
I think it's better to have him playing vs. not because there is more to getting 100% game-day ready than just not being injured. It's getting his timing with Josh back in sync, getting game-day endurance (can't get that in practice/drills/workouts) getting back into the game-day prep cycle, and a bunch of other aspects to playing professional football that don't just jump off the page.
I guess we tend to call it "knocking the rust off". IMO we want Brown warmed up, loose and firing on all cylinders before we finish up the Reg season and jump into the playoffs.
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Yup I was just thinking that there is probably no better time to sell those rights than right now!
It's absolutely a seller's market right now. Love it!