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    Live 2024 NFL Draft thread - Rounds 4-7 (Do NOT tip the Bills pick)

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    1 minute ago, Dr. Who said:

    I think Keon is the Gabe replacement. They need a Diggs replacement. He isn't in the draft, but they have to try.


    Im not really worried about a Diggs replacement. 
     

    I think Kincaid becomes our 1 and then we surround him with a talented WR room of WR2’s with different talents. 
     

    Im expecting to see a lot of extended handoffs where we get the ball to Coleman, Shakir and Samuel in space .. especially given the way teams sit back in a shell to defend Allen. 

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    Live 2024 NFL Draft thread - Rounds 4-7 (Do NOT tip the Bills pick)

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    1 minute ago, Logic said:

    If we're not gonna have an impressive top three -- which, currently, we don't -- I'd like to go the Green Bay route and have a handful of good and diverse guys.

    That's why I'd like to see the Bills add a receiver with their next pick.

    The Packers have :

    Watson
    Doubs
    Reed
    Wicks
    Melton
    TE Kraft
    TE Musgrave

    No world beaters and no true number 1, but a good collection of players, and Love is able to spread the ball around.

    The Bills have:

    Coleman
    Samuel
    Shakir
    Hollins
    Shorter/Hamler/car salesmen
    TE Kincaid
    TE Knox

    Coleman is their Watson (physically freaky, borderline WR1 type), Samuel is a decent to good number 2 in this league, and Shakir can hopefully be their Reed in the slot. They have better tight ends than the Packers. They just need one or two more dudes in that group. Hopefully they come today.


    THIS

     

    Get one more quality upside WR and I’m all in on the Packers approach for Allen. 
     

    Hollins is nice vet depth, but should he put WR5. 

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    Troy Franklin itch anyone...

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    14 minutes ago, NoSaint said:


    do guys like worthy, Mitchell, leggette, Polk, etc… not have game tape?


    What does that have to do with Franklin?

     

    Obviously teams view them as better prospects.   
     

    This is a deep WR Draft.  It’s how we got Shakir in RD5.   Deep draft and teams had questions about how to use him.  

    Troy Franklin itch anyone...

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    2 minutes ago, jjmac said:

    Ok, I have a question to ask. Why are you guys so high on Franklin?  What do you know that 32 NFL general managers do not?  Three rounds in the books, and he is still on the board. 


    Game tape.  The guy can play and provides something we still need, which is speed on the outside.  
     

    Obviously there’s a reason he’s falling, but some of it could also be how deep this WR draft is.   Even a team like the Bills, who came into this draft as WR needy as a team can be, has taken one WR.  
     

    Not every team is going to take a WR in the Draft and now guys like him are relying on teams to start double dipping. 

    Day 1 and 2 D picks from Beane

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    Rousseau would probably be viewed as a good pick by most people. 
     

    Epenesa took some time, in part due to our staff changing his body, but the way he played last year is - at least - a solid RD2 output for a DE taken late in the round. 

    Edmunds is good, but not elite.  Solid pick. 
     

    Same with Oliver.  Very good, not elite.  Underwhelming for where he was drafted, but not a miss - and many would view him as a hit. 
     

    Boogie was a miss and everyone knew it except for our FO apparently. 
     

    Elam.. I’m still in wait and see mode.  Weird situation.  I’m willing to see what this year brings as he clearly can play. 

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    What can we expect on day 3?

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    Honestly, I’m pretty excited for today with a 4th and four 5ths. 
     

    Unfortunately with this Draft, it’s basically a 5 round draft.  Rounds 6&7 are said to be bereft of talent due to various factors.  
     

    That being said, Beane has crushed Rounds 4-6 with a ton of good players like Khalil Shakir, Gabe Davis, Taron Johnson, Wyatt Teller, Christian Benford etc.,

     

    Could definitely see us taking our RB2 and WR4 today, along with another Safety and a Cornerback. 
     

    Should be able to get 4-5 guys who will make the 53 today. 

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    What can we expect on day 3?

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    2 minutes ago, Dr. Who said:

    RB2 is more than an afterthought. They need a bruiser.

    I'd still like to add OL depth. In general, I agree with your list.


    I just don’t know where the depth goes..

     

    We have our starters.  
     

    We have Lael Collins pushing to start, but also slots in as backup OG, OT.

     

    And we have two guys in the system that the FO likes a lot in Anderson (IOL) and Van Demark (OT)

     

     That’s 8 guys right there.   Room for one more on the active roster, so another guy could make it as OL9. 

    Live 2024 NFL Draft thread - Rounds 2 & 3 (Do NOT tip the Bills pick)

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    8 minutes ago, Ralonzo said:

     

    And sometimes you don't: McCaffrey was my crush for 128, and what just sent me over the edge tonight was seeing him go at 100 after a pick I just hated. I see him as someone who can win at all levels, inside or outside, speed and shift and physicality and he goes to effing Harblaugh and the Stupor Chargers 5 picks after Beane takes Captain Intangibles with a premium Day 2 pick.


    I don’t hate Carter at all. 
     

    He’s not Boogie Basham, imo… he has a quick/sudden/violent push.   That alone will be useful in pass rush situations. 
     

    Not saying you’re comparing them, but I’ve seen that around the board and Boogie was a tweener who had zero explosion.   Pick never made any sense. 

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    Live 2024 NFL Draft thread - Rounds 2 & 3 (Do NOT tip the Bills pick)

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    Just now, MikePJ76 said:

    I disagree with almost everything I am seeing here.

     

    The Bills are doing what is called Team Building.  They had veteran leaders walk out the door and they are drafting guys who have the talent and traits to become new leaders on this team.  The Defense was awful vs KC and was lucky Pittsburgh had no QB.

     

    I have a hunch tomorrow they take another WR, A running back and A Corner...No idea what they do in the 6th and 7th...i hope they take a kicker.

     

    The offense will have a full offseason of Joe Brady's scheme, They added a couple of veterans to the 0ffensive line group and now they have added Curtis Samuels and Keon Coleman to go with ascending players in Dalton Kincaid and James Cook.

     

    All you guys who wanted change to the offense are overlooking that we are getting it.  I wish they would have had the ability to take a real center and leave mcgovern at left guard but hopefully it will be ok.

     

    Plus, their are still veteran players available at wr who could get signed.  I still like the idea of Michael Gallup on a 1 year deal.

     

    I don't get the angry people or the irrational posts.  The bills are rebuilding their team.  Its going to take this years draft and next years draft.  They will still be in the mix this year in the post season if the defense can somehow stay healthy.


    This is a very strong draft so far. 
     

    The issue, imo, isn’t the players taken.. they got good players at positions of need.. 

     

    Its the state of the roster heading into the Draft. 
     

    Coupled with the fact KC moves Heaven and Earth to make sure Mahomes has a good OL year in / year out and has drafted RD2 WR, RD2 WR, RD1 WR in three consecutive years, plus signed Marquise Brown, while having arguably the best TE to ever play the game. 
     

    We’re sitting here with some promising talent on offense, but alot of unknowns because of decisions made prior to tonight. 

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    Rd 3, Pick 95: DT DeWayne Carter, Duke

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    Just now, Ethan in Cleveland said:

    A backup DT is never going to lead anything. 

    Allen, Milano, and Dawkins is all you need for leaders.

     

    They need playmakers on offense. This draft really sucks.


    I actually think this has been a really strong draft.  
     

    But it’s the same type of draft that has us being really good all year and falling short in the playoffs. 
     

    Coleman has some boom/bust in him, but Bishop and Carter are just good, maybe really good football players if they hit.   We have a lot of good players .. we don’t have difference makers (as of today) outside Josh Allen. 

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    Rd 3, Pick 95: DT DeWayne Carter, Duke

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    2 minutes ago, UKBillFan said:

     

    Whilst Josh has a receiver corps which probably doesn't even make the top ten in the NFL.


    We need another guy, agreed.   Either trade up early tomorrow and get a speed guy to be WR4 or see what’s out there after 6/1. 
     

    He does have a good OL with Kincaid, Knox, Cook, Coleman, Shakir and Samuel. 
     

    Not nothing.. but agreed.. once again, Defense looks like it’s receiving strong investment, while Offense is .. so far .. just replacing guys with equal or less proven guys. 

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