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1ManRaid

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  1. 4 hours ago, HardyBoy said:

     

    I also said Allen was scrambling, so he becomes a runner in terms of hit to the head (I'm pretty sure that's the case). Now had he thrown the ball and then the guy hit his head, it would be a penalty, but he wasn't a passer anymore at the time of that, and the guy didn't grab the face mask, good no call 

    He wasn't out of the pocket or past the line scrimmage, still a passer.  Even if he leaves the pocket...

     

    "When the passer goes outside the pocket area and either continues moving with the ball (without attempting to advance the ball as a runner) or throws while on the run, he loses the protection of the one-step rule provided for in (a) above, and the protection against a low hit provided for in (e) above, but he remains covered by all the other special protections afforded to a passer in the pocket (b, c, d, and f), as well as the regular unnecessary roughness rules applicable to all player positions."

     

    ...other special protections i.e. hits to the head.  Scrambling to avoid pressure doesn't make him a "runner" unless it is clear he is trying specifically to ADVANCE the ball as a runner.

    8 minutes ago, Ol Dirty B said:

     

    It was a clear face mask man. 

    No, it was a clear roughing the passer.  Facemask includes actual grabbing of the mask, not just making contact with it.  Kind of like illegal hands to the face re: linemen.

  2. 3 hours ago, 4merper4mer said:

    3 is just ridiculous; the replay guy doesn't even know his own rules.  The spotting of the ball at the 2 on Brown's 2nd and goal catch was absolutely absurd and simply had to be purposeful. It should have been inside the 1.

    Ah now I remember there was also a bad spot.

    3 hours ago, matter2003 said:

    How about the holding call on Dawkins to offset the personal foul on Allen which was 20 yards behind the play and consisted of Dawkins "trapping" the player on the ground and not letting him up...thats not holding.

    Add them to the list.  Almost literally up to a top 10 list of specific (non) calls that aided the Pats in this game alone.  I haven't even counted the vaulting the line on the missed field goal as I haven't yet checked that replay to see if he was running forward when it happened or if he pushed off another player to do it.  If you count that and the "not really illegal just scummy" Brian Bilichick and Friend having to be kicked off the field by McD during pre-game, that's a full top 10 list.

  3. 6 minutes ago, HardyBoy said:

     

    Right,  but you can see how the ref behind the play may genuinely see his head getting hit? Plus he's in the pocket. That would be a missed call, but 90% of the time a ref sees it from that angle and it looks like that, there is actual contact on the head, which is flat out illegal to tap a qb on the head.

     

    Allen was scrambling and the defensive player never actually grabbed onto his facemask. Completely different and the right call imo. Would Brady have gotten that call? Maybe, don't really know, but this example isn't analogous really at all.

     

    That said, I'm glad you posted it, it definitely furthers the convo, just not sure it proves what you are hoping it would.

    You seem to contradict yourself here.  The edge of a pinky finger grazing Brady's mask = good call for roughing the passer, but Allen getting clearly slapped across the face doesn't count because he didn't grab the facemask?  Facemask is a different penalty from roughing the passer.  You don't have to grab the mask to be called for roughing.  You say yourself that it is flatly illegal to make contact to the head of a QB but ignore OBVIOUS contact to Allen's head.

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  4. 15 minutes ago, Meatloaf63 said:

    No it wasn’t you don’t have s clue what you are talking about. 

    Yeah when you can almost do a top 10 list of missed calls just benefiting the Pats, I wouldn't call that a well officiated game.  Especially when some of those calls are so egregious or game changing.

     

    *edit*

    Just 5 off the top of my head...

    1. No ejection for the hit on Allen.

    2. Brady's intentional groundings, suspiciously the game following Brady complaining to refs about being called for grounding.

    3. INT standing upon review despite receiver being in contact with ball out of bounds.

    4. Phantom holding call against the Bills just because the Pats' D-lineman throws his hands in the air when getting beat on a run (announcers even commented on how they are taught to do that to draw penalties).

    5. Pats O-linemen of backups getting no holding penalties vs dominant Bills D-line the game following Brady complains on Twitter about the number of holding penalties.  Hell, the lack of holding calls on the Pats could be a list of its own.

     

    Bonus #6, no roughing the passer from Allen getting slapped across the face.  Brady gets that call 10/10 times as shown by calls being made when his face isn't even hit.

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  5. 2 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said:

    The key part to me is the last sentence of the paragraph. Seems pretty clear. Your mileage may vary, of course. 

    You say the whole paragraph needs to be taken into account, then say you only care about the last part.  Of course it's "pretty clear" to you if you zoom in and focus on what you want and ignore what is actually relevant to the case.

  6. 30 minutes ago, Simon said:

     

    I honestly have no idea what he said or whether he got fined.

    That stuff holds zero interest for me.

    You are saying you haven't heard of his widely covered Twitter complaint about the number of holding penalties, suspiciously immediately followed by his O-line of backups not getting holding penalties against the dominant Bills D-line?

  7. 2 minutes ago, mjd1001 said:

    I apologize if this was just posted..posts coming in faster than I can read them.

     

    Apparently McD noticed pats coaches/staffers watching Bills pre-game a little longer than they should have.

     

    https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/sean-mcdermott-escorts-bill-belichicks-son-off-the-field-during-pregame-warmups-for-patriots-bills-game/

    Yeah, three hours ago.  Search function.

  8. 8 hours ago, SCBills said:

     

    Pats punter was a monster last week.   If he keeps that up, we’ll probably be facing the need for 70+ yard drives for TD’s.  

     

    Interesting concern to have, because the typical fear to have about the Pats is the 75 yard drive resulting from the touchback kickoff after they score.

  9. 22 minutes ago, Nextmanup said:

    How about Dawson "Hard" Knox?

     

    Dawson "Fort" Knox?

     

    Dawson "Opportunity" Knox? 
     

    Dawson Knox 'Em Dead?

     

    Dawson Knox into the Middle of Next Week?

     

    Dawson Knox it out of the Park?

     

    I can go on.

     

    :lol:

    For a fantasy team...

    Momma Said Knox You Out

     

    But the best nickname is...

    Juggerknox

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