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26 minutes ago, dave mcbride said:
Agreed. My one question is who had responsibility for Perriman. It appears it wasn't Edmunds, who was apparently supposed to hand him off to a DB. That makes sense because you don't cover a WR with a LB.
I broke the play down here.
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6 minutes ago, Shaw66 said:
Thanks. That's great! So Edmunds WAS supposed to be shallow there, and that also explains why he seemed to be so surprised seeing Perriman slashing free across the middle like that. In that case, Edmunds did about everything he could do. Good for him. Good recognition.
I also read your comment about his tackle/miss in the hole. He stops all the time. He doesn't hit; he's a read and react guy, and I don't think he ever will change.
You are right. When he has to make profile tackles he continually stops his feet and lunges. That's just who he is and it'll never change.
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1 hour ago, Shaw66 said:
Thanks you and BTB. I didn't watch many replays, and I didn't understand that. So, maybe Jackson DID cost the Bills the game. White might have been there.
Oh, well.
It's just hard seeing the Bills get close but lose important games this year. Tennessee, New England, Tampa Bay. Win 2 out of 3, and the Bills are 9-4. Tough.
It was Johnson. I've got a breakdown of the play here if interested.
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11 hours ago, BillsFan130 said:
Is there a breakdown for when Edmunds couldn't stop Fournette on a 3rd and 1 in the backfield, then got burned by Tom Brady's eyes that led to the game winning TD?
3rd and 1 - Edmunds fit great and whiffed the tackle because he stopped his feet on contact. No reason to draw that one up.
Game Winning TD - Bills were playing 1 Rat coverage - a variation of Cover 1 (Man Free) and rushing 5. They stunt up front on the defensive left side pinching the 3 tech and 5 tech inside and blitzing Milano off the edge. The 3 tech and 9 tech to the defensive right rushed their lanes respectively. Everyone else is responsible for coverage. It's man so everyone except Poyer (F) has a man responsibility. Wallace (defensive right) has the furthest receiver outside, Johnson ($) has the #2 receiver to that side, Hyde (S) has the Tight End, Edmunds responsible for the back if he releases and is free otherwise, and Jackson (defensive left) has the furthest receiver outside to his side of the field. When they short motioned the outside receiver to the strong side of the field (defensive right) and he worked into a stack alignment with the receiver on the LoS Wallace and Johnson should have checked to a combo coverage here. Combo means Johnson is responsible for the first in-cutting route and Wallace is responsible for the first out-cutting route. There was zero communication and both Wallace and Johnson took #14 on the out-cutting route and no one was on the in-cutting route which was eventually thrown. Based on how i've seen the Bills play their 1 high coverage in the past Johnson should have carried the crosser since it went overtop of Edmunds (Typically in 1 Rat if a cross goes in front of the RAT player then they pick up the cross and whoever was on the receiver running the cross now becomes the RAT). Can't see Poyer in the highlight clip, but I'd assume he was "collected" by the vertical that Gronk ran and it took him out of the play entirely.
Again, it comes down to players all not being on the same page which caused a failure in execution.
19 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said:Taron Johnson got a nice pay raise for being an undersized slot corner and has responded by missing tackles at an alarmingly high clip. Has been an issue all year. By contrast there were street FAs in the Bucs secondary yesterday making form tackles all over the field.
Agreed. Our tackling as a defense has taken a huge step back this year. That's one thing (as a coach) I used to be able to point to that the Bills did a really good job of. This year it's like they threw everything they'd done in the past in regards to tackling fundamentals out the window. It needs to be fixed.
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10 minutes ago, JohnNord said:
Ok cool… this has now made the rounds of Twitter. Tough play, yes but again it’s why I don’t think as good as some hype him up to be
Nothing tough about it - Edmunds fit it perfectly and whiffed on the tackle because he stopped his feet on contact. It's inexcusable.
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19 minutes ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said:
OK, can you do anything to improve this?:
How'd I do?
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2 minutes ago, JohnNord said:
Maybe that play wasn’t his fault but the lengths people will go to try to show that Edmunds is slightly above average is insane.
He is what he is. An average MLB who is a part of a defense that is consistently outmuscled. What’s there to argue?
Don't take this as anything more than it is. In no way am I trying to make Edmunds out to be anything more than what he is - a mediocre inside backer. There's no agenda with this post. I just saw a lot of people were misinformed and thought I'd address it.
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44 minutes ago, TheProcess said:
I have no doubt you’re accurate in your play design, but you know what’s better than funneling your guy back inside? Using your instinct and just making the tackle. Edmunds passed up just making the tackle on Fournette to engage the blocker because that’s what the play told him to do. He went right by him to force the play inside when he could have just shown a little instinct and stopped it right there. Players rely on their instinct and deviate from script all the time to make a play. Rarely, if ever, seems to happen with Tremaine who tends to be out of position on many big plays.
It’s a catch 22. If Edmunds were to have fit tighter in the gap Fournette ultimately hits then the Guard who is wrapping on the Buck Sweep will just hinge back inside on Edmunds and Fournette hits in between the two pulling guards (in the gap Edmunds filled) for likely the same outcome. Everything with stopping the run has to work in unison - when guys don’t do their job and instead do their own thing is when you have breakdowns.
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8 hours ago, BMWR100RT said:
Are you defending Edmunds game today? Ugh.
No. Just this play as I saw a lot of posters bashing him for this one.
8 hours ago, BillsFan130 said:Is there a breakdown for when Edmunds couldn't stop Fournette on a 3rd and 1 in the backfield, then got burned by Tom Brady's eyes that led to the game winning TD?
If I can find a video of both plays where I can see what everyone on both sides of the ball are doing I’ll gladly do breakdowns.
8 hours ago, Old Coot said:Excellent post. You obviously know your X's & O's.
I have a question for you about Josh's ball placement on his dump off passes to RBs.
First the content: Josh throws behind the RB forcing him to turn his back to the D to receive the ball. This allows the D to rally to the RB and the result is that the play gains minimal yardage. When I see similar plays executed by other teams the gain often is 5-7 yards.
Here's the question: are QBs coached to lace the throw behind the RB or is that just Josh?
Are you talking throws to the sideline or middle of the field?
7 hours ago, HurlyBurly51 said:You've only got 37 posts - Post more! Good stuff.
Gotta start somewhere 🤷♂️
6 hours ago, bouds said:Great breakdown brother. Question, what does playing a 50 mean?
Romo even said it on the broadcast, he was talking about our safeties rotating late and keeping QBs off balance, except when you rotate yourself out of position and get slapped. Seems like thats what happened here, because we kept the rest of the run game bottled up.
Appreciate the analysis.
A 50 is the linebackers alignment. Second level defenders follow the same rules as the defensive line as far as what their different alignments are called. They just add a 0 to the end of theirs. So a 3 tech defensive tackle plays outside shade of a guard - a LB in a 30 is playing outside shade of a guard but off ball. So to answer your question a 50 is outside shade of the offensive tackle.
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1 minute ago, Do The Reich Thing said:
Players did execute.
***** excuses. Win the damn thing. Don't rely on the refs.
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Game on the line - Diggs vs Carlton Davis 1 on 1 with no help to win the game - I like our chances. He didn't misread the situation we just didn't execute. Players have to make plays.
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2 minutes ago, ALLEN1QB said:
You should be our defensive coordinator. He probably doesn't understand that.
I assure you he does. If Poyer doesn't get caught rolling at the snap and plays run first (C gap responsibility) like he's intended to then we're good, but Poyer continues to roll pulling him further away from his gap assignment. It's just a good call against what we had called. Taron needs to make the tackle, plain and simple.
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1 minute ago, Billsfan1972 said:
Another long TD run vs. the Bills defense...... This is an issue.
100% it's an issue - but it's not an Edmunds specific issue as people like to make it out to be.
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where you at? @AlCowlingsTaxiService @LABillsBacker???
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Tampa runs Buck Sweep on 1st and 10 and catch Buffalo rolling 3 weak. Buffalo is beat at birth right here based on alignment since they have Rousseau lined up in a 7 tech instead of a 9 and their Sam linebacker (Milano) playing a 50 and having to set the edge from depth. Milano's responsibility is to set the edge so he is going to take on the first puller with outside leverage forcing Edmunds to take on the second puller with outside leverage and force the play back inside to the Will/Nickel (Johnson) and Strong Safety (Poyer). Johnson missed the tackle and Poyer got worked by the Left Tackle as the Alley player allowing the touchdown. Edminds fit his gap assignment. Anyone who says he overran the play doesn't understand football and run fit assignments.
Flame on haters.... @AlCowlingsTaxiService @LABillsBacker @Rick 'r Mortis
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We’re *****. Teams will play drop 8 against us the rest of the year because they know they can get pressure with 3. Beane needs to figure out how to draft the trenches or we’re doomed.
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Just now, AlCowlingsTaxiService said:
Ok tough guy …. Some great stuff to get that stellar 28 post count up. Just be glad you’re behind a keyboard
🤣🤣🤣
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3 minutes ago, Rick 'r Mortis said:
You sound like the guy I work with who called himself an NFL guru. Those words actually came out of his mouth, "I'm an NFL guru".
He's wrong about literally half the stuff he spews.
Don’t call myself a guru but I do understand football. Most people here don’t understand that defenders have run fits. Everyone yells at players as if they are playing “see ball get ball”.
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2 minutes ago, AlCowlingsTaxiService said:
You do that … right after mommy calls you up from the basement for dinner
At least if I educate you about how football actually works you’ll be a more well informed sorry sack of *****. 🤣
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1 minute ago, LABILLBACKER said:
Adorable...I know a guy getting blown up when I see it.
Man… really thought Bills fans actually had a better understanding of how football works… the lack of football knowledge around here is comical
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You guys getting mad at edmunds don’t understand football and how run fits work lmfao…
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50 minutes ago, Billsfan1972 said:
Absolutely right. Why do we have 180 lbs defensive backs out there, when NE has 8 men on the LOS and one receiver into block and 2 backs?
I keep watching the play and the Bills were lined up very loose. Again I'm no expert, but while the Bills had a threat of a passing game, the Pats line stood up well. Conversely the Pats made no attempt to even look like they would throw and the Bills didn't seem to adapt.
Here's highlights from the 1st quarter, Usually there is 5 vs. 5 on LOS. The Bills are playing tight and the Pats have receivers spread out. The TD run the Pats had 8 on the LOS vs. the Bills 4.
They seemed in the wrong defense there.
I don't think you understand how football works my friend.
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48 minutes ago, Billsfan1972 said:
Again I ask, why did we look so loose on Defense and weren't crowding the LOS, when they showed no intent of passing?
I'm a layman when it comes to defense, but everyone looked lost and we had only 4 on the LOS. They had 1 receiver on the line, I guess a TE and two backs & showed no intent to pass the ball.
BTW wake me up when the Bills bust an easy 65 yard run like that....
Yeah, this statement doesn't make much sense buddy. We were playing our base 4-3 personnel grouping with Cover 3 behind it. Technically we had 6 on the LoS. Wallace could be considered a 9 tech, Epinesa a 5, Oliver a tilt 1, Phillips a tilt 3, Rousseau a 6 and Poyer a 9. No one was lost - they just got beat.
I also don't know what "they showed no intent to pass the ball means". Are you basing this off of the personnel on the field? The offensive formation? The tendencies they showed so far in the game?
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7 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:
for me a lot of defensive line play is instinctual and sometimes it looks like he is overthinking. Phillips is a smart player but if you watch a vet like Lotulelei in the middle for example, you'll see him in 1tech getting pieces of guards in zone to buy an extra half step for the LBs, keeping his footwork balanced when he needs to have a different angle...I rarely see that ability to adapt out of Phillips. He knows his responsibilities but doesn't have any counters when the situation calls for it
That's not insticts - that's coaching - fundamentals and technique. Phillips ball get off is slow af and he lacks athleticism. It'll always hold him back.
Dane Jackson played pretty well
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It was Johnson. Play is broken down here.
Read here.