Scott7975
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Well lets look at it.
2013
Only Meeks remains and he may not remain long as he is pretty terrible.
2014
Watkins I love but to be real he hasn't lived up to his cost. He could have gotten same or better production by staying put or realized EJ wasn't the answer and drafted Carr who would have fell to us.
Preston Brown isn't very good but the position is weak so he starts.
No one else worth mentioning that is left on the team.
2015
Darby great year then pretty bad year so who knows.
Miller is pretty average.
O'Leary barely a role player as they continually look for better.
No one else worth mentioning.
2016
Too early to discuss. The important picks were injured or invisible when they played.
In my book that is pretty terrible drafting thus far. Whaley is one of the worst GMs in the league IMO.
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This same article the last 2 years had the Bills ranked 9th.
http://nypost.com/2016/04/24/ranking-from-1-32-the-nfls-best-teams-at-drafting/
http://nypost.com/2015/04/25/an-exhaustive-ranking-of-every-nfl-teams-draft-haul-since-2010/
How can a team go from 9th best drafting team to 25th best drafting team in a single year, especially when the article claims to be looking at the past 5 seasons and their own rankings had the Bills 9th in the 2 previous seasons...?
Seems to me that they are mainly basing their rankings on how many games the Bills most recent draft picks played last season, and with the injuries to our top 2 picks that number is obviously very low.
Or it could be that out of the last 5 years of drafting there were 37 players drafted, only 16 of them remain on the team (that includes 7 from last season.) Only one of those players is really franchise at this point in Glenn. Could argue Watkins but that is still only two players. We only had 4 or 5 starters out of those 16 last season. Some of them more due to necessity rather than being any good. Some of them may not make the roster this season.
That's some pretty piss poor drafting. I have no idea how people can sit there and defend/support Whaley. He is one of the worst GMs in the league.
bill blowhardchek is a 'genius' for one reason: he opens the door for his prom queen goat
i pray with all sincerity he continues coaching after she retires just to clearly demonstrate why he has a sub-.500 record when his golden girl isnt playing
He went 3-1 without his " golden girl" last season and went 11-5 with Matt Cassel.
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I disagree.
As I stated in my post, I think it's the other way around. I think if it was Belichick getting a 5th round pick in exchange for a backup running back (that he had signed off the scrap heap for vet minimum to begin with), everyone on here would be calling him a genius. Flipping a running back who's about to turn 28 for a 5th round pick and 1million+ in cap space just doesn't seem like bad business to me. Even if the Bills simply turn around and spend the pick they acquired on a running back, said player will be 6 years younger and a good deal cheaper.
I liked Gillislee a lot, but I think people are somewhat underrating the value of a 5th round pick in a deep draft and somewhat overrating the importance of a backup running back.
At McCoys age a backup running back is pretty important. Especially on a team that is more run dominant than pass dominant. I think you underestimate how good he was on our team. I think you way over estimate the value of a 5th round pick. Go take a look at our 5th round history.
Could they find a role player for backup? Sure they could, but why create a hole and waste resources over 900k in cap space for someone who likely wont produce as good? That's peanuts and horrible management.
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I dont think Whaley is the worst, but he is average at best.
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Me too! It just blows my mind that people who just want to hate on something can't even get credit for Whaley building a really good defense that year. We beat Rodgers without scoring an offensive td!
Why do you credit Whaley with building that defense? The large majority of that defense was already in place when Whaley took over as GM.
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I doubt NE signs Mike if it is a 2nd round tender, a fact lost on so many around here
Then the Bills would still have a highly productive backup on a reasonable deal. A fact lost to the rest of you. 5th round pick is garbage. Take a look at how many 5th round picks stayed on this team the last decade. I can only think of one.
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Boo to that article...
the answer is EJ Manuel because reminded our franchise that we continuously guess wrong at QB but until you guess right you will NEVER make the playoffs... with the 10th pick this year hopefully we fix that
They aren't going to take a QB with the 10th pick.
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Might not be necessarily a no brainer to pick up his option, but not getting him another contract and letting him walk would be a huge fail. It was already a bad move moving up to get Watkins. Letting him walk after his rookie contract would be the ultimate Whaley/Bills blunder. I already feel Whaley is a terrible GM. That would just seal it.
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You are probably the same guy from BBMB that talked about "sleepers" at WR for the Bills last season. I assure you our WR core is one of the worst in the league and there are no sleepers on this roster, just like I said last season when you and others said we didnt need a WR.
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My gut feeling is we are headed for a losing season. This team is even worse than last years team from a talent perspective atm.
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Great question. A "Tyrod Fanboy" is a strawman created by about 5% of the posters on TBD who are irrationally anti-Tyrod. Of those irrationally anti-Tyrod posters, 95% of them are as such because they used to be irrationally pro-EJ themselves and were upset when Tyrod won the job and even stooped so low as to claim that there was a conspiracy involved (much like Trump claiming he didn't win the popular vote because of illegal votes). In any event, in the countless years, days and hours I have spent on this website, I have never encountered one poster who has tried to prop Tyrod Taylor up as more than he is: a below average to potentially average but STARTING NFL QB. You would think by seeing the term "Tyrod Fanboy" flung around so haphazardly, that there would be people on this website somewhere insisting he is already, or will be at some point in the near future, an elite NFL QB. In actuality, no such people exist. So when you see the term "Tyrod Fanboy," it is ex-EJ Fanboys (irrationally optimistic fans, mind you) bitterly lashing out at posters who acknowledge reality: that Tyrod Taylor is a below average- but worthy of starting- NFL QB, as opposed to a complete abomination.
Wow its like BBMB.
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Not sure if the full deal has already been posted in this thread. Im not going to read 16 pages right now to find out. If it has been posted then just ignore this post. Anyhow I just seen his contract breakdown and its as follows...
Signing bonus: $7 million
Total money: $30.5 million
Total guaranteed money: $15.5 million
2017
Salary: $7.5 million
Cap hit: ~$9.71 million
2018
Salary: $16 million
Cap hit:$18.08 million
2019 (free agent)
Salary: voided
Cap hit: $5.56 million (pro-rated signing bonus)
This was La Canfora's breakdown
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Doug Whaley sucks. He is terrible at drafting and terrible at cap management. Did he get in a couple solid FA's, yeah. Did McCoy fall into his lap, yeah. Drafting and cap management are the backbones of a good GM and he simply is not good at either.
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Other then being one of the best ST's players in the NFL for a number of years
There ARE 3 phases to a football team
You mean he made some plays one season. The number of years you are referring to he sat on IR. I said we should have cut this guy for 3 years ago. Waste of space. All he did was collect a check.
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This is my reading of the tea leaves John, let me know if I'm that far off:
The Bills are more than willing to move on from Tyrod, but they will only do so if they can get their hands on 1 or 2 guys they have their sights set on:
Option 1 appears to be Trevor Siemian. Better passing stats than Tyrod, due $1.5M over the next 2 years & 2 years younger than Tyrod. This one is a no-brainer, problem is Siemian is a Bronco, so the Bills are hopeful the Broncos land Romo. If they do, perhaps they entertain trade offers for Siemian. There is no way he is being cut, at that bargain salary for the next 2 years. Another problem now, is that there are rumors the 49ers might be interested in Siemian if the Broncos are willing to deal him.
So yea......I could see how the situation is very fluid.
Paying Siemian $1.5M for 2 seasons sure as hell beats paying Tyrod $40.5M for the next 2. That additional $39M in cap space over 2 years could go a long way in helping other areas of need on this roster, and there are many.
With that said, if the Bills want to land Siemian in a trade they are going to have to convince him Buffalo is better than San Fran and Shanahan, which is a tough sell, IMO. So you can then expect the Bills and 49ers to get into somewhat of a bidding war as to how much they will pay Siemian if he comes in as a bridge QB. In the end, I think it'll be very hard to outduel San Fran.
Players don't generally get to decide who they get traded to. The GM usually decides that based on who is will to pay more in picks. Siemian is not a guy I would send picks for.
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I appreciate the effort, but thank god he's not our GM that's a lot worse than even Doug Whaley would ever imagine. I don't think a team in the history of FA has ever signed 10 FA's during the signing period, that's insane......and it would also cost us getting a 3rd round comp. pick for losing Gilmore, since we would've signed more FA than we lost. That's what really makes this plan bad. The restructures of Glenn and Dareus would only push huge cap hits further down the road, and for a team that's much closer to tearing it down then they are winning a SB that is another bad idea. Picking up Tyrod's contract and being forced to pay a very avg. QB $40.5M (what was Whaley thinking!!!!) for 2 years of service is assinine.
The Bills have 45 roster spots, or thereabouts and 6 draft picks. How else are they suppose to get players to fill the roster this year?
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That is far different than "Hogan tearing it up in New England". He did not tear it up. Would he have been useful here rather than Harvin? Sure.
Ok I agree with that. Hogan didn't tear it up in the regular season, but he did in the post season for them. Other than just Harvin? He would have been our #1 receiver for two games and probably our #2 for 3 others. Yeah he would have been useful. The guy is better than any receiver on this team outside of Watkins and Woods(who is on the way out the door.) A week from now Hogan would be our penciled in #2 receiver. That's how bad our receiver core is. All because they wouldn't tender him for 800k more when they paid Harvin more than that. Bush more than that. Same mistake they are doing with Gilly... which is the point.
I really think DW wants the draft pick that's why he only put the 5th round tender on Gilly because he doesn't see anyone giving up a 2nd rounder for him.
I don't know why. Whaley hasn't hit on a 5th round pick in three drafts. Two of them are no longer on the team and the third seen 27 carries with 2 fumbles. Not that he hits on any of his picks really.
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What are you talking about? Their defense, which is the issue here, played extremely well early in the season. The reason the Bills scored a bunch of points was because of ST gaffes (the Cards had 25 first downs to the Bills measly 16). The Bills had under 300 total yards and were 4-13 on third down conversions - which ain't great. In their other games, they gave up 23, 7, 17, 21, 3, and 6 points. Christ, man. In their first seven games, they gave up an average of 289.6 ypg, and the Pats with Garrapolo had 363. The next best team had 306, and the other 5 teams all had under 300. Check out pro-football-reference before making such claims. They finished #2 overall in yards allowed, and it's not like they got better later in the season.
12, 18, 26 ,31, 32 yards per game. 18, 18, 27, 30, 32 points per game. Removing the Pats and the Bills... those are the offensive rankings of the teams they faced in the first 7 games. Rank 12 in yards and 18 in points was Seattle who was pretty bad themselves the first half. Arizona was bad last year. Miami was a train wreck on defense at the beginning of the year as well.
You're avoiding the evidence i presented about how they played early in the season and their yardagr totals. You also don't mention their talent on d which is real. Most importantly, they were freaking THIRD overall in defensive DVOA. Check out FO.
They played against SF, LA, Jets, and a bad Seattle offense during that span. Most defenses looked good against those teams.
Is that counting pre-season?
Pre-season don't mean anything. EJ Manuel looked like Joe Montana in pre-season.
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In a move that will have a ripple effect on all QB-needy teams, Patriots are not expected to trade QB Jimmy Garoppolo, per league sources.
michael lombardi Retweeted Adam SchefterThis is not about increasing his value, this is the player being good, really good.
Lets be real. Its about Belichick trying to fleece another team like he did with Cassel. He isn't getting the two first round picks that he wanted so he held off for a desperate team. Calling a player really good after two games against bad teams that had no tape on him is premature. Yes he looked good in a dink and dunk offense. That doesn't make him really good.
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Can we stop saying Hogan tore it up in New England? With a future HOF 5 time super bowl champion QB, Hogan got 250 more yards, 1 touchdown, and 9 more catches than Goodwin all year. Like wtf is with this hardon for Hogan.
Considering Hogan was a third or sometimes fourth target in NE that was a pretty good season. Meanwhile we spent more money than the tender signing Harvin because all we could field for some games were some grocery baggers off the street. Hogan would have been the best receiver on the field at least 2 games. Second best in some more. No matter how you cut it, Whaley blew that one. His blunders are quickly piling up.
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Maybe this is a crazy thought, but hear me out: Groy didn't play too badly last season, and Wood could very well get hurt again. The draft isn't deep at C, nor is the FA class. Could Groy be the one we should be worried about losing? And should we care?
Honestly, this is Wood last season under contract. Post June 1st cut saves the team 4.5 mil in cap space. Groy played well in Wood absence. As a GM, I cut Wood and keep Groy while having a little extra space on someone else. Groy is 4 years younger than Wood too.
That guy was just brutal to watch. Didn't he finish with negative yards?
Yes he did. Minus 3 yards on 12 carries. NFL record lol.
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They have more cap room next season because a ton of contracts expire. Someone brought this up last season on BBMB. I looked it up and it was because we only had like 12 players still under contract at that point. After filling the roster back up we will still be against the cap.Do we really need to have these players restructure?
Someone on this board, I forget who, posted that next year the Bills could be $50 million under the cap.
Dareus, Hughes, Glenn, McCoy, Clay eat a large portion of cap that they can't get away from. Roughly 76 mill from just those 5 guys. Another 9 from Kyle. Another 7.5 from Eric Wood. There's half our cap space on 7 guys. Add Watkins to that soon. The magic of the great Doug Whaley that half the fans praise.
If they were desperate for cap space the best way to get it would be to cut Kyle. Hate saying that but doing so gives them almost 7 mil in space. Restructuring guys isn't the answer. All that does is put us in this same situation in a year or two. It's damn pathetic to be in this position as a .500 team.
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gillislee is the man.
but anyone can run behind that oline and have some success.
Reggie Bush couldn't.
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you don't get rid of a bunch of players just to tender a backup RB.
He is more than just a backup running back. He spells a star that is on the downside of his career. Less than a million dollars more isn't the difference of getting rid of a bunch of players.
Whaley and the draft
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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Not really sure how to take your post on whether its serious/sarcasm/hypebolic/whatever. They cant trade Dareus because the dead cap would kill this team.